Maniwaki Canuck Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 33 minutes ago, insomniac604 said: Gudbranson is currently a shut down Dman who can play the body but doesn't always take penalties. He would be a perfect compliment to both Edler and Hutton. He is no doubt a top 4, drafted with the potential to be a top 2. I doubt he will unseed Tanev but we desperately needed a guy on the right. I think we could use one more RHD as a 6/7 guy to rotate with Tryamkin. Biega started off well but got stale as the season went on. He's a little too old to be a breakout now, and we have yet to see if Tryamkin's big body can handle a full season. Last season he was already getting his knees & ankles iced after games. McCann simply didn't fit into our plans. He started ok but wore down, whereas Virtanen, Baertschi and Etem got better towards the end. We still have to sign Etem which I expect we will. Vey will most likely go. Agreed except for Vey going: this deal gives him renewed hope as the 13th forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRypien37 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 2 hours ago, LaBamba said: We have the scariest D in the NHL without a doubt Not even close. Definitely happy with adding Try and Gud but we were by far the smallest and weakest up until that point. We are probably in the top 10 now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV18 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I've been reading lots of talk about hammer not returning, can anyone explain the probability and reasoning? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.53 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 McCann will be missed, but our team looks much more capable next year. Now we have the pieces to actually stop opposing teams from putting the puck in the net. If we end up getting Dubois as well, then I'm not too worried about the loss of McCann. Also, people need to stop worrying about that second round pick. That is exactly why we signed Troy Stetcher. He gives us that flexibility. He's a much further developed prospect than pretty much any defensman at that time, barring something crazy, he's a hometown boy, an offensive PMD, and has experience being a top defensman on a championship team. If we had drafted a kid that has turned out to be Troy Stecher good in 3-4 years with our 2nd round pick, fans would be ecstatic and super hyped. Well, we signed him for free to give us flexibility at the draft. Now we can go ahead and pick Dubois, most likely and still have a solid D core. Edler Tanev Hutton Gudbranson Sbisa Tryamkin (Larsen?) - With Subban, and Stecher, two right handed PMDs on the way. When it comes to forwards, if we get Dubois in the draft then our future will still be pretty set. I think Benning wants to use that spot to hit free agency for an impact player as we wait a season or so for Dubois and everyone else to catch up. Keep in mind that even without McCann, we still have a solid number of forward prospects. Horvat, Virtanen, Boeser, and Baertschi all have top 6 potential. Granlund has a possibility, and if we get Dubois, well that's another. 4 or 5 solid top 6 prospects is honestly a good amount for a young future. With Benning giving up picks, I think it shows, our prospect cupboard and youth movement is almost complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 12 minutes ago, Stanky Legs said: We have no more rookies to be protected. JB traded most of them. Sometimes, I feel like my team has been hijacked by a bunch of nihilists. Perhaps some day in the future true fans will rise again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanB Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 1 minute ago, JV18 said: I've been reading lots of talk about hammer not returning, can anyone explain the probability and reasoning? thanks Probability = low. Reasoning = $. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 4 minutes ago, DeNiro said: It's definitely harder to judge these trades from an outsiders perspective when you have followed guys like Shinkaruk and McCann since they were drafted. I think that's the difference between people who can look at this trade with an even keel and those who can't. For me I remember watching these guys play all the way from junior, and rooted them on all the way to the NHL. As a fan it's hard to invest that much to see them continually dealt before they really get a chance to shine here. Maybe i should just stop following our prospects so closely... Or watch more of the rest of the league. I watched about 30 Florida games (loved their team) + playoffs this year. I am so stoked on this trade it isn't funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 9 minutes ago, Mackcanuck said: Between the Canucks 5th and 93rd picks - the Carolina Hurricanes will make 7 selections; and the Leafs will make 6. Seriously, does it matter? A 2nd pick is an asset and it doesn't make any difference if you use it to make a draft selection or make a trade with it. Just make it count. The Canucks became a better team today and if it cost a 2nd, what are the chances that that 2nd turned into a better player than Gudbranson and how long would they have to wait? EG is 24 and just rounding into form. Benning got a good return for the 2nd and McCann (the Canucks have lots of centres, none of which project to be a 1C.....although I did hope McCann might) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV18 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 1 minute ago, PlanB said: Probability = low. Reasoning = $. ok thanks I really don't want him gone. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FijianCanuck Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Benning saw what the sharks did tonight and said yup! We rebuilding on the fly with this core Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Just now, Gnarcore said: Or watch more of the rest of the league. I watched about 30 Florida games (loved their team) + playoffs this year. I am so stoked on this trade it isn't funny. Me watching the rest of the league won't change my attachment to our prospects. I still believe McCann will be a good player in this league. That being said, if we draft Dubois with the 5th I'll probably get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyHatnDart Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Crabcakes said: Seriously, does it matter? A 2nd pick is an asset and it doesn't make any difference if you use it to make a draft selection or make a trade with it. Just make it count. The Canucks became a better team today and if it cost a 2nd, what are the chances that that 2nd turned into a better player than Gudbranson and how long would they have to wait? EG is 24 and just rounding into form. Benning got a good return for the 2nd and McCann (the Canucks have lots of centres, none of which project to be a 1C.....although I did hope McCann might) Thank you for that eloquent reply. So many people bent out of shape over losing the 2nd. Yes, it's a deep draft and yes it's likely that the 33rd ends up an NHLer. Equivalent to Gudbranson? We'll have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanB Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, DeNiro said: It's definitely harder to judge these trades from an outsiders perspective when you have followed guys like Shinkaruk and McCann since they were drafted. I think that's the difference between people who can look at this trade with an even keel and those who can't. For me I remember watching these guys play all the way from junior, and rooted them on all the way to the NHL. As a fan it's hard to invest that much to see them continually dealt before they really get a chance to shine here. Maybe i should just stop following our prospects so closely... Tell me about it, I remember actually talking to HS in Brossard Quebec at the WJC summer development camp where he was cut. I still have a roster sheet with his signature on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 12 minutes ago, Bobby_Lu1ngo said: having a guy like gudbranson allows us to give a guy like subban a look and protect his deficiencies. you have to wonder.... benning and chiarelli are friends. mybe chiarelli was honest in saying he wants tkachuk if he keeps pick. At the lottery he had high rise for MT and said they need a cerebral net front guy like him and spoke of him ahead of others. Edm may be deciding between tkachuk and joelevi meaning we are looking at dubois which makes mccann even more expendable. McCann>> Dubust. This terrifies me if we not only don't get Tkachuk, we have to play against him in our division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucksfollower1983 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 GMFA strikes again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_Lu1ngo Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 1 minute ago, FijianCanuck said: Benning saw what the sharks did tonight and said yup! We rebuilding on the fly with this core yeah there D has been great but he had better work on getting a pavelski to light the lamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5nothincanucksohno Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 47 minutes ago, canuktravella said: sedin sedin Lucic baertchi horvat rodin etem sutter virtanen dorsett granlund martin gaunce edler Tanev hutton gudbranson Larson tryamkin Sbisa, Pedan Miller markstrom Or is it looking more and more like Lucic? I don't know how much that improves their position in the standings but definitely harder to play against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 4 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Me watching the rest of the league won't change my attachment to our prospects. I still believe McCann will be a good player in this league. That being said, if we draft Dubois with the 5th I'll probably get over it. I agree about McCann. I like the kid too and think he'll be solid. Especially out east. With Boeser, this years 5th and our centre depth he was expendable though. We just got a big, mean and solid d man who lets Hutton do his thing. This is a great deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOgRook Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 40 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Side note Congrast to the San Jose Sharks on their 1st Stanley Cup Finals berth Hoping the Bolts or Pens kick a hole in them, don\t want another team to win the cup that hasn't yet unless it's the Canucks doing it Thx for the spoiler alert hippy.. Figured the last place I would here the result was this thread.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 8 minutes ago, DeNiro said: It's definitely harder to judge these trades from an outsiders perspective when you have followed guys like Shinkaruk and McCann since they were drafted. I think that's the difference between people who can look at this trade with an even keel and those who can't. For me I remember watching these guys play all the way from junior, and rooted them on all the way to the NHL. As a fan it's hard to invest that much to see them continually dealt before they really get a chance to shine here. Maybe i should just stop following our prospects so closely... ...and then... BOOM a Gudbranson becomes available and a maybe prospect becomes a sure thing nasty T4D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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