vancouvercan Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 With the draft to look forward to I thought I should look at what the draft does and maybe doesn't mean in the overall scheme of things. I was surprised at Hansens draft position. Also Vrbatas, Millers and Dorsetts. We got Thatcher Demco at 36th with his glowing elite prosects summary: Thatcher Demko is an exceptionally athletic goaltender that can seem unbeatable on many occasions. His composure in net and modified butterfly style have scouts comparing him to Pekka Rinne of the Nashville Predators. He prepares himself well, positionally, for initial shots and the subsequent rebounds, and his cross-crease lateral movement is very good. As he tracks the puck, his stick always covers the five-hole and he makes himself big. One of the most noticeable aspects about Demko's style is that he doesn't go down prematurely; he isn't overly aggressive, but will get out to the top of the blue paint to challenge shooters with a clear shooting lane. Moving forward, Thatcher Demko will have every opportunity to develop into an elite franchise-type goaltender that can be relied upon in all situations. Anyway, Enjoy and Speculate! Alex Burrows - undrafted Chris Tanev - undrafted Jake Virtanen - 6th overall Sven Baertschi - 13th Derek Dorsett -189th (7th) round Emerson Etem - 29th Brendan Gaunce - 26th Markus Granlund - 45th (2nd round) Jannik Hansen - 287th (9th round) Chris Higgins - 14th overall Bo Horvat - 9th overall Daniel Sedin - 2nd overall Henrick Sedin - 3rd overall Brandon Sutter - 11th Linden Vey - 96th (4th round) Radim Vrbata - 212th (7th round) Matt Bartowski - 190 (7th round) Alex Biega - 147 (5th round) Alex Edler - 91st (3rd round) Erik Gudbranson - 3rd overall Dan Hamhuis - 12th Ben Hutton - 147th (5th round) Luca Sbisa - 19th Nikita Tryamkin 66th (3rd round) Yannik Weber - 73rd (3rd Round) Jacob Markstrom - 31st Ryan Miller - 138th (5th round) Thatcher Demko - 36th overall - Canuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cramarossa Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Sbisa was 19th overall?? WOW. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy, but that's a shocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancouvercan Posted May 29, 2016 Author Share Posted May 29, 2016 Yah, Sbisa was a pretty high draft pick. Hopefully hes a late bloomer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honky Cat Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Without doubt,..Ryan Miller is the stand out pick (by Benning)..followed by Edler (Nonis, I believe)..and Tanev (Gillis).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, vancouvercan said: Yah, Sbisa was a pretty high draft pick. Hopefully hes a late bloomer. The opposite. He was an early bloomer. That is why he was picked so high and why his salary is too high. He played 39 games with the Flyers as an 18 year old and for the Swiss national team in the 2010 Olympics at 20. I get a kick out of Higgins being 14th OA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHYCHRUN Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 21 minutes ago, ThrustyPrusty89 said: Sbisa was 19th overall?? WOW. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy, but that's a shocker. Gudbranson was 3rd overall? Another shocker. Oh.... a little early? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancouvercan Posted May 29, 2016 Author Share Posted May 29, 2016 Maybe with less responsibility because we got Gudbranson his effectiveness will rise. And he is enterering his age prime - 26,27, 28. Hopefully we keep Hamhuis to keep teaching him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHYCHRUN Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 31 minutes ago, vancouvercan said: With the draft to look forward to I thought I should look at what the draft does and maybe doesn't mean in the overall scheme of things. I was surprised at Hansens draft position. Also Vrbatas, Millers and Dorsetts. We got Thatcher Demco at 36th with his glowing elite prosects summary: Thatcher Demko is an exceptionally athletic goaltender that can seem unbeatable on many occasions. His composure in net and modified butterfly style have scouts comparing him to Pekka Rinne of the Nashville Predators. He prepares himself well, positionally, for initial shots and the subsequent rebounds, and his cross-crease lateral movement is very good. As he tracks the puck, his stick always covers the five-hole and he makes himself big. One of the most noticeable aspects about Demko's style is that he doesn't go down prematurely; he isn't overly aggressive, but will get out to the top of the blue paint to challenge shooters with a clear shooting lane. Moving forward, Thatcher Demko will have every opportunity to develop into an elite franchise-type goaltender that can be relied upon in all situations. Anyway, Enjoy and Speculate! Alex Burrows - undrafted Chris Tanev - undrafted Jake Virtanen - 6th overall Sven Baertschi - 13th Derek Dorsett -189th (7th) round Emerson Etem - 29th Brendan Gaunce - 26th Markus Granlund - 45th (2nd round) Jannik Hansen - 287th (9th round) Chris Higgins - 14th overall Bo Horvat - 9th overall Daniel Sedin - 2nd overall Henrick Sedin - 3rd overall Brandon Sutter - 11th Linden Vey - 96th (4th round) Radim Vrbata - 212th (7th round) Matt Bartowski - 190 (7th round) Alex Biega - 147 (5th round) Alex Edler - 91st (3rd round) Erik Gudbranson - 3rd overall Dan Hamhuis - 12th Ben Hutton - 147th (5th round) Luca Sbisa - 19th Nikita Tryamkin 66th (3rd round) Yannik Weber - 73rd (3rd Round) Jacob Markstrom - 31st Ryan Miller - 138th (5th round) Thatcher Demko - 36th overall - Canuck Burr Tanev Hutton Wow.... steal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 30 minutes ago, vancouvercan said: With the draft to look forward to I thought I should look at what the draft does and maybe doesn't mean in the overall scheme of things. I was surprised at Hansens draft position. Also Vrbatas, Millers and Dorsetts. We got Thatcher Demco at 36th with his glowing elite prosects summary: Thatcher Demko is an exceptionally athletic goaltender that can seem unbeatable on many occasions. His composure in net and modified butterfly style have scouts comparing him to Pekka Rinne of the Nashville Predators. He prepares himself well, positionally, for initial shots and the subsequent rebounds, and his cross-crease lateral movement is very good. As he tracks the puck, his stick always covers the five-hole and he makes himself big. One of the most noticeable aspects about Demko's style is that he doesn't go down prematurely; he isn't overly aggressive, but will get out to the top of the blue paint to challenge shooters with a clear shooting lane. Moving forward, Thatcher Demko will have every opportunity to develop into an elite franchise-type goaltender that can be relied upon in all situations. Anyway, Enjoy and Speculate! Alex Burrows - undrafted Chris Tanev - undrafted Jake Virtanen - 6th overall Sven Baertschi - 13th Derek Dorsett -189th (7th) round Emerson Etem - 29th Brendan Gaunce - 26th Markus Granlund - 45th (2nd round) Jannik Hansen - 287th (9th round) Chris Higgins - 14th overall Bo Horvat - 9th overall Daniel Sedin - 2nd overall Henrick Sedin - 3rd overall Brandon Sutter - 11th Linden Vey - 96th (4th round) Radim Vrbata - 212th (7th round) Matt Bartowski - 190 (7th round) Alex Biega - 147 (5th round) Alex Edler - 91st (3rd round) Erik Gudbranson - 3rd overall Dan Hamhuis - 12th Ben Hutton - 147th (5th round) Luca Sbisa - 19th Nikita Tryamkin 66th (3rd round) Yannik Weber - 73rd (3rd Round) Jacob Markstrom - 31st Ryan Miller - 138th (5th round) Thatcher Demko - 36th overall - Canuck So, our two best players, with elite offencive skill, were drafted 2 and 3. Hmmmm. Now how do we replace them? Oh let's draft 5 to 15 and see how that works out? JB is doing a good job, but if we are to TRULY replace the elite skill of the twins we either get lucky with one of those 5-15 picks, or we (somehow) draft top three a couple times. Last draft and this draft would have DONE THAT. Crap! Why does our franchise ALWAYS miss out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Soldier Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 33 minutes ago, ThrustyPrusty89 said: Sbisa was 19th overall?? WOW. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy, but that's a shocker. It's more in line with reality than what most of CDC likes to dream up regarding draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancouvercan Posted May 29, 2016 Author Share Posted May 29, 2016 Hopefully our #5 draft pick will come through and we get an awesome Naslund like trade to make up the difference for a west coast express 2.0. Virtanen, Boeser, Baertchi, Horvat, Granlund as hopefulls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 41 minutes ago, Crabcakes said: The opposite. He was an early bloomer. That is why he was picked so high and why his salary is too high. He played 39 games with the Flyers as an 18 year old and for the Swiss national team in the 2010 Olympics at 20. I get a kick out of Higgins being 14th OA. His career hasn't been out of place for a 14th OA pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 1 hour ago, vancouvercan said: With the draft to look forward to I thought I should look at what the draft does and maybe doesn't mean in the overall scheme of things.... Thanks for doing this. The relative performance of guys at different draft positions has been studied a lot, but it is interesting to see all the Canucks listed. I think the Canuck patterns is similar to the league overall. Of the 28 guys listed, I count 12 as first round rounds and 3 more are from the top half of the second round, so that is over half from the top round and a half. The other 5 1/2 rounds (previously 7 1/2) and undrafted free agents are less than half. And for forwards, the best players are very heavily concentrated in the first round. Beyond that the frequency drops off sharply. Basically, once you get past the top half of the second round, anyone who becomes an NHL regular has beaten the odds as the large majority from the bottom half of the second round on never become NHL regulars. Looked at from the GMs point of view, you should get a good NHL player with a first round pick, especially in the high first round, and you have a good shot at getting a legitimate NHL player in the high second round. So those picks are very valuable. Beyond that it is lottery tickets. Of course some lottery tickets are better than others and Benning has done a good job so far, picking guys like Tryamkin and Forsling (subsequently traded) in lower rounds. I would just like him to have more draft picks to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMillerTime Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 10 on this were drafted By canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HC20.0 Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Crabcakes said: The opposite. He was an early bloomer. That is why he was picked so high and why his salary is too high. He played 39 games with the Flyers as an 18 year old and for the Swiss national team in the 2010 Olympics at 20. I get a kick out of Higgins being 14th OA. Higgins was actually a good 20 goal scorer earlier in his career. He wasn't just all Penalty Killing once upon a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanky Legs Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Alflives said: So, our two best players, with elite offencive skill, were drafted 2 and 3. Hmmmm. Now how do we replace them? Oh let's draft 5 to 15 and see how that works out? JB is doing a good job, but if we are to TRULY replace the elite skill of the twins we either get lucky with one of those 5-15 picks, or we (somehow) draft top three a couple times. Last draft and this draft would have DONE THAT. Crap! Why does our franchise ALWAYS miss out? Ha ha you're going to be blasted now, you draftist! You just showed your love for top 3 picks. It's frowned upon here. You are not a true fan! Go cheer for Florida! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 League-wide, who'd have the highest avg selection(full team)? Pitt maybe..or some slacker-club like Buff or Edmonchuk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollarAndADream Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Pretty funny how basically our best two defensemen, Tanev and Hutton, were an undrafted and 5th round player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 It is interesting to look at that list. It is a good reminder that once you are below the 1st round anything is posible. We still have 6 picks and even though 3 are in the last two rounds they can be valuable. Also a fair amount of very good talent can be found as UFA's out of college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dizzle Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Higgins at 14 and Sbisa at 19 aren't at all suprising. A lot of first round picks turn into role players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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