[Proposal] Edm/WPG Monty get in here

[Warhippy]

Monty, this one's for you.

 

Talking to a buddy of mine yesterday.  Was thinking that the Jets have such a solid D core and prospects and young forward prospects that they really needed a solid winger, mid 20's game breaker kinda guy

 

His theory

 

Taylor Hall.

 

He brought up Myers/Trouba + for Hall

 

Something alone the lines of

 

Myers and 2017 1st for Taylor Hall and a 4th

or

Trouba and 2016 2nd for Hall

 

His reasoning was Myers while young has probably reached his peak in regards to knowing what he'll actually be as a career player with a few surprise years, but with a new contract needed soon might price himself out of the Peg thus dumping him on Edm to try to deal with

 

He also applied the same thought to Trouba in that Trouba as an RFA was asking the large and only as a bridge contract therefore possibly pricing himself out of the Peg as well or at least enough so that even with a bridge contract was promising to be a headache.  Again making him edmontons problem.

 

I am not familiar enough with the WPG forwards to even know if this is viable from your persepctive.  but I can see why edmonton would consider it, they could draft Tkachuk to replace Hall, with Hall's propensity to lead with his face and knee he's got a shelf life of 32 years before the decline and edmonton needs D like nobody elses business, younger if possible.

 

So, @Monty what do you think, would there be a deal in there?  or should the Oilers just flip Hall and a pick or a D prospect to Nashville for a Weber, thus eating huge contract but ensuring they've a lifetime D man that cannot walk on them?

[Monty]

Well, I'm not going to presume to know the ins and outs of the Oilers organization, but it's safe to say that they are tired of losing. Obviously they need a defenseman, but I'm not sure trading Taylor Hall is in their best interest. He's proven and one of their only consistently proven forwards. However, if he's who they would need to dangle to get someone, then so be it.

 

As for the Jets, with Ehlers, Connor, Perreault, Dano, Petan, and Lemieux, they have boatloads of LWers in the fold. But yes, nobody quite of Hall's ilk. However, not every first line in the NHL needs PPG players in every position. The Jets will have Scheifele and Wheeler filling that role on the top line with Ehlers on the left side, probably topping out in the 60 points per season. And with Connor - Little - Laine on the second line, just not sure why they would need him going forward.

 

Now, I have no problems with the Jets bolstering their forward group by trading Trouba or Myers. But my guess is they would move one of them out East. That was my educated guess with Evander Kane, and that's exactly what happened. While I like the idea of Taylor Hall, and certainly nothing wrong with working something out involving Trouba/Myers, I just can't see Chevy making any moves himself that make a rival Western team looking to get a wildcard spot that much better.

 

I like it, and have thought many a time about this. And it really wouldn't surprise me if Edmonton had inquired about either of them throughout the last two years. However, Chevy only seems to make moves at a position of strength and, amazingly so far, at a time when he seems to bend other GMs over and take them for everything they've got. If Chevy were to trade Myers to Edmonton, I'm sure he wouldn't add. And if he were to trade Trouba, I'm sure he would require Edmonton to add. Seems to be Chevy's MO.

[Warhippy]

25 minutes ago, Monty said:

Well, I'm not going to presume to know the ins and outs of the Oilers organization, but it's safe to say that they are tired of losing. Obviously they need a defenseman, but I'm not sure trading Taylor Hall is in their best interest. He's proven and one of their only consistently proven forwards. However, if he's who they would need to dangle to get someone, then so be it.

 

As for the Jets, with Ehlers, Connor, Perreault, Dano, Petan, and Lemieux, they have boatloads of LWers in the fold. But yes, nobody quite of Hall's ilk. However, not every first line in the NHL needs PPG players in every position. The Jets will have Scheifele and Wheeler filling that role on the top line with Ehlers on the left side, probably topping out in the 60 points per season. And with Connor - Little - Laine on the second line, just not sure why they would need him going forward.

 

Now, I have no problems with the Jets bolstering their forward group by trading Trouba or Myers. But my guess is they would move one of them out East. That was my educated guess with Evander Kane, and that's exactly what happened. While I like the idea of Taylor Hall, and certainly nothing wrong with working something out involving Trouba/Myers, I just can't see Chevy making any moves himself that make a rival Western team looking to get a wildcard spot that much better.

 

I like it, and have thought many a time about this. And it really wouldn't surprise me if Edmonton had inquired about either of them throughout the last two years. However, Chevy only seems to make moves at a position of strength and, amazingly so far, at a time when he seems to bend other GMs over and take them for everything they've got. If Chevy were to trade Myers to Edmonton, I'm sure he wouldn't add. And if he were to trade Trouba, I'm sure he would require Edmonton to add. Seems to be Chevy's MO.

I have to say, for a guy who rarely makes moves if ever.  He certainly does come out on the top of the pile when he does.

 

I wasn't sure about the depth or need of Hall in WPG which is why I asked, but it seemed to fit both teams.

 

Maybe Weber out of Nashville would be the better bite for the Oil

[Monty]

I'm sure Weber's recent playoff performance, which showed his age, must have the Predators rethinking their long term plans with him. But considering they have another 10 years of him on the books, they could look to move him. Would be a better fit between them and the Oilers.

[Warhippy]

9 minutes ago, Monty said:

I'm sure Weber's recent playoff performance, which showed his age, must have the Predators rethinking their long term plans with him. But considering they have another 10 years of him on the books, they could look to move him. Would be a better fit between them and the Oilers.

If nothing else it would ensure the mighty Oil had a defenseman that they could guarantee would never be able to run away on them.

[HC20.0]

I watch the Oilers a lot, living in Alberta, and I think trading Hall would be a mistake. He's the one player I'd keep. Moving Nuge or Eberle would be a lot better for the Oilers.

[Toews]

Taylor Hall may play for the worst organisation in hockey but he is still one of the best LWs in the game. He is also young and on a great contract. If the Oilers are trading Hall they better be getting back a #1D even if they have to add, otherwise it is a deal simply not worth making.

[shazzam]

Yeah, Hall has been leading the forward group year after year. Plenty of guys should go before him. But of course he is an attractive piece for any team.

 

Trading Yakupov would be selling low. I think they will give him another chance to perform. Nudge might be the first one to go but again, selling low? Might be their only choice to change that team

 

[Monty]

16 minutes ago, shazzam said:

Yeah, Hall has been leading the forward group year after year. Plenty of guys should go before him. But of course he is an attractive piece for any team.

 

Trading Yakupov would be selling low. I think they will give him another chance to perform. Nudge might be the first one to go but again, selling low? Might be their only choice to change that team

 

Unfortunately for that franchise and their fans, while they have great forwards to trade, they are dealing from a position of weakness. No matter who they trade, they will have to add more in. They are in dire need of defensemen, and every team knows it.

[shazzam]

10 minutes ago, Monty said:

Unfortunately for that franchise and their fans, while they have great forwards to trade, they are dealing for a position of weakness. No matter who they trade, they will be have to add more in. They are in dire need of defensemen, and every team knows it.

I wonder if we don't sign Hamhuis, EDM will take a run at him. He has several years left in the tank.

[Seven pounds soft]

Get a room 

[TNucks1]

On 5/29/2016 at 0:48 PM, shazzam said:

I wonder if we don't sign Hamhuis, EDM will take a run at him. He has several years left in the tank.

i hope hammer doesnt go to Edmonton