Provost Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) When he says it is all up to the Canucks, that isn’t really true. He could agree to mutually terminate his contract with the Canucks and become a UFA. So, it is at least much his decision as that of the team at this point. They waived him to see if anyone else lose in the league wanted him and no one did. Him saying he could play on any team in the league also doesn’t seem to be true, certainly not at his current contract. I don’t expect him to ditch his contract because it is not like he has made $50 million in career earnings... but he also can’t pretend he is just a hostage of the team. They aren’t in the business of not playing guys who could help them win. He is a good guy, but he is also a little outside of reality with his level of play. Edited May 13, 2020 by Provost 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: tbh I don't really know what happened here. Does anyone have a clear, simple explanation as to why Sven fell out of favour with Green? I remember them saying in the offseason that they felt he was hesitant on plays after his concussion. Any slight hesitation could be a turning point on any given shift. He had a 6 game stint this season which was longer than any of the other bubble players that got sent down, but Green must've felt he simply wasn't the same player from before the concussion and the numbers crunch kept him down. Plus there was likely a mandate to get guys like MacEwen more time with the big club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 42 minutes ago, AK_19 said: I'm honestly still surprised that Eriksson had a place on our roster and not Baertschi. Baertschi may not have been as hard on the puck as Pearson, Miller, and maybe Roussel, but I saw no downside in him compared to Eriksson. Baertschi has shown good offensive chemistry with Hovat in the past and is a good defensive player as well. He played on our previous shutdown line well when he was paired with Horvat. Furthermore, it was more important to showcase Baertschi to be able to trade him whereas Eriksson was already a hopeless cause. Virtually nothing he was going to do was going to change the impression he was a pure cap dump. Perhaps there is something to Alf's theory that there is a hand shake agreement for Erikkson to retire after his July 1 bonus and the Canucks are trying to keep him happy by not sending him to the AHL or making virtually any negative comments about him to the press. For a player as bad as him, it's amazing the amount of positive feedback we get from the coach, management, and fellow teammates. Yeah good point about how there's no downside to him compared to Loui. Surprised they didn't try to do what they did with Hodgson, putting him in roles to succeed to up his value and then flip him. Even if he got injured he wouldn't have counted against the cap if he made it on LTIR, plus he is still young and had/ has upside. However by waiving him so early he basically told the league, this top 6 guy has no real value anymore. Terrible asset management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Phil_314 said: Yeah good point about how there's no downside to him compared to Loui. Surprised they didn't try to do what they did with Hodgson, putting him in roles to succeed to up his value and then flip him. Even if he got injured he wouldn't have counted against the cap if he made it on LTIR, plus he is still young and had/ has upside. However by waiving him so early he basically told the league, this top 6 guy has no real value anymore. Terrible asset management. It’s probably safe to assume they looked for a trade before putting him on waivers. I don’t really agree with the whole “poor asset management” angle. Someone has to actually want to trade for him for him to have value. The fact that he cleared waivers twice suggests that he doesn’t have value (regardless of when he was put on waivers) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Phil_314 said: Yeah good point about how there's no downside to him compared to Loui. Surprised they didn't try to do what they did with Hodgson, putting him in roles to succeed to up his value and then flip him. Even if he got injured he wouldn't have counted against the cap if he made it on LTIR, plus he is still young and had/ has upside. However by waiving him so early he basically told the league, this top 6 guy has no real value anymore. Terrible asset management. Yeah - I am sure that some team would have taken Sven plus a 2nd in exchange for their 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 I thought I remember Green saying he wanted 2 way players on the wing. Eriksson can still go out in a penalty kill and thats what Green wanted in his bottom 9 wingers. Baertchi had a bad concussion and I think Utica was a chance for him to get back to normal game play and also maybe add being a 2 way player. Canucks didn't want him to get to comfortable in his spot. The also signed Ferland who they thought could play top 6 wing minutes. It would be nice to see Baertchi get a fair shot again with the Canucks. He has proven at times to be a player that creates offence and scores goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Canucks have to stop trading for / drafting / signing. guys from Switzerland...... I would prefer to see the club sign Canadians, Americans and Swedes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 3 hours ago, kenhodgejr said: I thought I remember Green saying he wanted 2 way players on the wing. Eriksson can still go out in a penalty kill and thats what Green wanted in his bottom 9 wingers. Baertchi had a bad concussion and I think Utica was a chance for him to get back to normal game play and also maybe add being a 2 way player. Canucks didn't want him to get to comfortable in his spot. The also signed Ferland who they thought could play top 6 wing minutes. It would be nice to see Baertchi get a fair shot again with the Canucks. He has proven at times to be a player that creates offence and scores goals. But he's still not going to be a 2 way player on the wing. And he's definitely not going to bring any sandpaper to the bottom six, if he played there, which is pretty much a prerequisite on a Green team. Therefore, I'm sure he's never going to play for Green again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 5 hours ago, kingofsurrey said: Canucks have to stop trading for / drafting / signing. guys from Switzerland...... I would prefer to see the club sign Canadians, Americans and Swedes... We still have a couple Russians to sign bro hold your horses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 8 hours ago, Junkyard Dog said: We still have a couple Russians to sign bro hold your horses. I am bit worried about the Russians... how has that gone for us in the past. Would have preferred to keep riding the swedish bus.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 It's strange how Beartschi and Spooner played out, that's approx. $3.3 million flushed down the drain under different circumstance that would be seen as a management failure. If there are buy out coming together with a diminished Cap surely ownership must be wondering. Higgins was bought out along with Booth and Ballard. Man that's a lot of cash. Hard to make a argument or a dollar with all this money being thrown away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 48 minutes ago, Fred65 said: It's strange how Beartschi and Spooner played out, that's approx. $3.3 million flushed down the drain under different circumstance that would be seen as a management failure. If there are buy out coming together with a diminished Cap surely ownership must be wondering. Higgins was bought out along with Booth and Ballard. Man that's a lot of cash. Hard to make a argument or a dollar with all this money being thrown away While all owners wants to earn money with their sports teams, it's all for ego, pride, bragging rights, etc. Some rich dude owning racehorses or racing car teams aren't really expecting to turn a profit. Just more for the "in yo face!" to other rich dudes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Lancaster said: While all owners wants to earn money with their sports teams, it's all for ego, pride, bragging rights, etc. Some rich dude owning racehorses or racing car teams aren't really expecting to turn a profit. Just more for the "in yo face!" to other rich dudes. The Corona virus has forced chnage on the rich as well as the drones. Real estate holding will be devalued amongst other thing. His ability to negotiate loans in the future will be greatly reduced. Aqilini will need to tighten his belt, certainly not privately but corporately without question. Large corporation will fall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 5 hours ago, kingofsurrey said: I am bit worried about the Russians... how has that gone for us in the past. Would have preferred to keep riding the swedish bus.... Has gone pretty well I do say so myself. One of the All-time Canucks just so happens to be mother Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Junkyard Dog said: Has gone pretty well I do say so myself. One of the All-time Canucks just so happens to be mother Russia. Canucks track record with Russian players is not very strong... just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Junkyard Dog said: Has gone pretty well I do say so myself. One of the All-time Canucks just so happens to be mother Russia. Sure, but for every Larianov and Bure there's a Koltzov and Shirokov. (But I guess you could say, too, that for every Pettersson and Hughes there's a White and Ellington) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK_19 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 https://www.tsn.ca/vancouver-canucks-sven-baertschi-opts-out-of-return-to-play-1.1494484 Very disappointing to hear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podz92 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 37 minutes ago, AK_19 said: https://www.tsn.ca/vancouver-canucks-sven-baertschi-opts-out-of-return-to-play-1.1494484 Very disappointing to hear. Not surprised. Won't be surprised to see him playing in europe next year either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, JamesBlondage said: Not surprised. Won't be surprised to see him playing in europe next year either Understandable that he opts out. Why be confined to a bubble and away from his family with close to no chance to play. The Canucks already have too many Fs on their main roster. I'd be very surprised if he goes to Europe - his agent excluded that idea. His life is in North America. He doesn't even return to Switzerland in the off-season anymore. Doubt he'd walk away from what the Canucks owe him either now that he has a young son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpn1 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) Does anyone think that he would mutually terminate his contract with the Canucks? That way he can sign with another team. Edited July 11, 2020 by dpn1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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