stonecoldstevebernier Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 I think Gaunce is seeing the effects of not having linemates that WD feels comfortable throwing out there. He trusts him playing 10 minutes a night if its with Dorsett and Skille, but not with Labate and Skille. Which is a shame, because Gaunce has the potential to be a dependable bottom six utility player but he won't get there playing 4 minutes a night. He's not even getting PK shifts anymore which is disappointing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beary Sweet Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 I see Gaunce's ceiling being middle 6 centre/winger when it's all said and done. Who knows... He could be our 2C that we didn't expect him to be that has some flexibility as well. Maybe we don't need a Patrick and continue to build from the net out and go with Liljegren instead. I'd still go Patrick though if I had 1 OVRL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horvats_Big_Head Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Gaunce is struggling. I'm not ready to quite give him the label of the four letter "B" word. However, I am getting closer with each passing game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 9 hours ago, Horvats_Big_Head said: Gaunce is struggling. I'm not ready to quite give him the label of the four letter "B" word. However, I am getting closer with each passing game. Desjardin keeps talking about the 4th line needing more TOI and I agree. Gaunce is no where near being a bust. Generally plays a solid game. That line needs 10 minutes a game. Lets talk next year and review his progress. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snizzle_ Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Gaunce took a few shifts last night with Granlund and Sutter. I'd prefer to see Gaunce there over Megna for a few games. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, junglesniper said: Gaunce took a few shifts last night with Granlund and Sutter. I'd prefer to see Gaunce there over Megna for a few games. Granlund-Eriksson (not Sutter) and it was Chaput that he was replacing at C. Happened also against Minnesota where for the 2nd period he played on that second line instead of Chaput but in the 3rd they were switched back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 15 hours ago, Horvats_Big_Head said: Gaunce is struggling. I'm not ready to quite give him the label of the four letter "B" word. However, I am getting closer with each passing game. He's struggling if you're looking at the offensive numbers, but the reason he hasn't been sent down and no one's talking about sending him down is because his defensive game is solid. Gaunce isn't expected to become anything better than a 3rd line forward so point production is not of the utmost importance for him. Gaunce currently has a corsi rating of 50.44%, better than more than half the team. His -4 rating is also better than more than half the the regular players on the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 2 hours ago, ajhockey said: He's struggling if you're looking at the offensive numbers, but the reason he hasn't been sent down and no one's talking about sending him down is because his defensive game is solid. Gaunce isn't expected to become anything better than a 3rd line forward so point production is not of the utmost importance for him. Gaunce currently has a corsi rating of 50.44%, better than more than half the team. His -4 rating is also better than more than half the the regular players on the team. Gaunce is doing everything he is being asked to do. This is his first year in the NHL and he is the consistent part of a continually changing 4th line. I think he will progress over the years and end up as a very solid 3c (reliable shut down guy who scores some timely goals). Malhotra kind of guy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 13 hours ago, higgyfan said: Gaunce is doing everything he is being asked to do. This is his first year in the NHL and he is the consistent part of a continually changing 4th line. I think he will progress over the years and end up as a very solid 3c (reliable shut down guy who scores some timely goals). Malhotra kind of guy. What a year later and Manny as coach makes with the centers and their FO%. Bottom third to top third in the NHL. Your exactly right that Gaunce is doing what is asked of him. I prefer he gets 10 minutes of TOI per game however. It is a tough balancing act for Desjardin, no doubt. I view this as a development year so the top 2 lines should be at 18 TOI and the bottom 2 lines split the dif. Gaunce is getting his NHL start and I am confident that by next spring we will have a better idea of what he can offer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Boudrias said: What a year later and Manny as coach makes with the centers and their FO%. Bottom third to top third in the NHL. Your exactly right that Gaunce is doing what is asked of him. I prefer he gets 10 minutes of TOI per game however. It is a tough balancing act for Desjardin, no doubt. I view this as a development year so the top 2 lines should be at 18 TOI and the bottom 2 lines split the dif. Gaunce is getting his NHL start and I am confident that by next spring we will have a better idea of what he can offer. Manny is the perfect person to coach these guys, like Gaunce. Manny was a really high pick/prospect coming out of junior. He had to change his game to be a shut down guy to stay in the NHL. Heck, he was almost done, and had to take a PTO with the Sharks. I think Gaunce is a really smart kid, and will listen to Manny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 3 hours ago, Boudrias said: What a year later and Manny as coach makes with the centers and their FO%. Bottom third to top third in the NHL. Your exactly right that Gaunce is doing what is asked of him. I prefer he gets 10 minutes of TOI per game however. It is a tough balancing act for Desjardin, no doubt. I view this as a development year so the top 2 lines should be at 18 TOI and the bottom 2 lines split the dif. Gaunce is getting his NHL start and I am confident that by next spring we will have a better idea of what he can offer. 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Manny is the perfect person to coach these guys, like Gaunce. Manny was a really high pick/prospect coming out of junior. He had to change his game to be a shut down guy to stay in the NHL. Heck, he was almost done, and had to take a PTO with the Sharks. I think Gaunce is a really smart kid, and will listen to Manny. Manny certainly doesn't hurt but Sutter playing and Hank healthy make a FAR bigger difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 5 hours ago, The 5th Line said: Poor kid it doesn't look like he's ever going to score a goal again, just 1 goal in 46 games now and there could of be some frustration built up seeing as how he got in to a fight last night. I hope eventually he gets an opportunity with some more offensive players. It's his first season. He's doing exactly what he should be. Patience. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 On 12/7/2016 at 4:07 AM, The 5th Line said: Poor kid it doesn't look like he's ever going to score a goal again, just 1 goal in 46 games now and there could of be some frustration built up seeing as how he got in to a fight last night. I hope eventually he gets an opportunity with some more offensive players. Remember, in 2006-07, Burrows scored three goals in 81 games. Gaunce will get there eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobart16 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 (edited) On 11/27/2016 at 2:19 PM, Lancaster said: I am a bit disappointed with the lack of playing time that Gaunce (and the rest of the 4th line) received yesterday. He's a defensively reliable player that is good at face-offs..... so he should have at least been out on the PK. Considering yesterday was the 2nd of the back-to-back, you'd assume that WD would have rolled 4 lines more. Just in case someone mentions it, I don't believe the "Canucks had to protect the 1-0 lead".... since with that philosophy... you'll never play him when you're tied, when you're also down by 1-2.... meaning the only good time to play him would be if the Canucks were up or down by 5. good call, 4th line made you look smart against Tampa Bay tonight. I agree with this entirely particularly given the liability Sedins can be on D Edited December 9, 2016 by hobart16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible.dee Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 On 9/28/2016 at 10:49 AM, nux_win said: We're going to lose someone that we don't want to, but only one. It's the same for every team. There is no way around it. We can't protect everyone. We should be aware of that but we shouldn't let the fear of loss dictate how we ice our best possible team now. Fear is the only enemy. GCG! Looking at the list right now it seems obvious that Erikson should be left unprotected, It seems he will have an average season, not one even close to worth the contract though, If they leave him unprotected they can keep another forward, if he's taken they are rid of the contract, if he isn't then fine, moving right along That was a golden parachute deal from J.B to L.E and everyone knows it so it won't make Vancouver look bad to potential free agents, Erickson was blessed to get the contract and I doubt he would be peeved much by having to take his millions of dollars to Vegas for a 6-year vacation. He's the solution to keeping Gaunce Whether Gaunce is worth keeping is another topic altogether, the thing that concerns me about him is that games go by, then I'll read a boxscore, see his name and say" "Was he in the line-up?" Gaunce is one of the most invisible players I have ever tried to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 43 minutes ago, terrible.dee said: Looking at the list right now it seems obvious that Erikson should be left unprotected, It seems he will have an average season, not one even close to worth the contract though, If they leave him unprotected they can keep another forward, if he's taken they are rid of the contract, if he isn't then fine, moving right along That was a golden parachute deal from J.B to L.E and everyone knows it so it won't make Vancouver look bad to potential free agents, Erickson was blessed to get the contract and I doubt he would be peeved much by having to take his millions of dollars to Vegas for a 6-year vacation. He's the solution to keeping Gaunce Whether Gaunce is worth keeping is another topic altogether, the thing that concerns me about him is that games go by, then I'll read a boxscore, see his name and say" "Was he in the line-up?" Gaunce is one of the most invisible players I have ever tried to watch Pretty sure Eriksson has a NMC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 8 hours ago, J.R. said: Pretty sure Eriksson has a NMC. What happens when the number of NTC and NMC exceed the draft max? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux_win Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 10 hours ago, terrible.dee said: Looking at the list right now it seems obvious that Erikson should be left unprotected, It seems he will have an average season, not one even close to worth the contract though, If they leave him unprotected they can keep another forward, if he's taken they are rid of the contract, if he isn't then fine, moving right along That was a golden parachute deal from J.B to L.E and everyone knows it so it won't make Vancouver look bad to potential free agents, Erickson was blessed to get the contract and I doubt he would be peeved much by having to take his millions of dollars to Vegas for a 6-year vacation. He's the solution to keeping Gaunce Whether Gaunce is worth keeping is another topic altogether, the thing that concerns me about him is that games go by, then I'll read a boxscore, see his name and say" "Was he in the line-up?" Gaunce is one of the most invisible players I have ever tried to watch Loui was actually a real good NHLer at one point and worth the contract. This year? Well, I have to agree that he isn't the Loui we signed on for. Maybe he will pick it up and return to form or maybe you are right and we should expose him. I agree that Gaunce flies under the radar. I mostly listen on the radio so he is really invisible to me. Occasionally this can actually be a good thing for a defensive player. They don't get mentioned much and they don't get much face time on camera but sometimes a good defensive player goes about his job unnoticed by everyone except the people they are playing against. I'm not sure whether Gaunce is that player but he might be. He's not lighting up the scoreboards but maybe that means that he is doing the little defensive things well (unlike Virtanen). At least he isn't a liability out there. Of course we have to score goals but winning generally starts with keeping the pucks out of your own net. GCG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Boudrias said: What happens when the number of NTC and NMC exceed the draft max? NTC don't need to be protected. Just NMC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 10 hours ago, terrible.dee said: Looking at the list right now it seems obvious that Erikson should be left unprotected, It seems he will have an average season, not one even close to worth the contract though, If they leave him unprotected they can keep another forward, if he's taken they are rid of the contract, if he isn't then fine, moving right along That was a golden parachute deal from J.B to L.E and everyone knows it so it won't make Vancouver look bad to potential free agents, Erickson was blessed to get the contract and I doubt he would be peeved much by having to take his millions of dollars to Vegas for a 6-year vacation. He's the solution to keeping Gaunce Whether Gaunce is worth keeping is another topic altogether, the thing that concerns me about him is that games go by, then I'll read a boxscore, see his name and say" "Was he in the line-up?" Gaunce is one of the most invisible players I have ever tried to watch Eriksson has a NMC, which means he has to be protected. When you read those boxscores, have a look to see how much ice time Gaunce gets. For the skimpy amount of time he gets, he's been playing a solid defensive game. He's projected to be a bottom 6 player and is in his rookie season. Before you suggest Megna & Chaput...they are 2 & 4yrs older than Gaunce. How 'bout some patience? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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