Kooner91 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Can't wait to see this guy play. I think he's a dark horse to challenge for that #3 center position this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 bo was here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrene Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I have mixed feelings about this pick. Though he's highly touted, can any of you tell me the difference between him and Brendan Gaunce? Similar styles, same point productions, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Shirokov Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I have mixed feelings about this pick. Though he's highly touted, can any of you tell me the difference between him and Brendan Gaunce? Similar styles, same point productions, etc. He's smaller than Gaunce, but quicker and has more offensive potential. From all the reports I've read, horvat seems a lot like Patrice Bergeron. Exceptional in all three zones, and very clutch. He's a very good pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Killer Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 He's smaller than Gaunce, but quicker and has more offensive potential. From all the reports I've read, horvat seems a lot like Patrice Bergeron. Exceptional in all three zones, and very clutch. He's a very good pick. Horvat is like a hybrid of Kesler, Bergeron and Backes. Another positive he'll have is the opportunity to get another shot at the memorial cup next year. I can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohnoeszz Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I have mixed feelings about this pick. Though he's highly touted, can any of you tell me the difference between him and Brendan Gaunce? Similar styles, same point productions, etc. Better vision and puckhandling. Very good passing and decision making. A more dynamic offensive player. Excellent around the net. More fluid skater. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANUCKS FTW! Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Horvat is like a hybrid of Kesler, Bergeron and Backes. Another positive he'll have is the opportunity to get another shot at the memorial cup next year. I can't wait. If Horvat turns into that type of player then I have absolutely no problem with this trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamasutra Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Hope this guy turns out better than Kassian or Schroeder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrene Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 (edited) Better vision and puckhandling. Very good passing and decision making. A more dynamic offensive player. Excellent around the net. More fluid skater. He's smaller than Gaunce, but quicker and has more offensive potential. From all the reports I've read, horvat seems a lot like Patrice Bergeron. Exceptional in all three zones, and very clutch. He's a very good pick. From the scouting reports, apparently Horvat isn't that exceptional of a skater either. As for playmaking and vision, I hope it's better than Gaunce because it hasn't translated onto the scoresheet yet. Gaunce and Horvat has eerily similar stats while Horvat got the benefit of playing for a very stacked London Knights team while BOTH centers play a 2-way game. edit: also, from the looks of it, either Gaunce was a complete steal, or this team's offensive talent pool is a bit more shallow imo. Edited July 1, 2013 by Pyrene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Heyman Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 From the scouting reports, apparently Horvat isn't that exceptional of a skater either. As for playmaking and vision, I hope it's better than Gaunce because it hasn't translated onto the scoresheet yet. Gaunce and Horvat has eerily similar stats while Horvat got the benefit of playing for a very stacked London Knights team while BOTH centers play a 2-way game. edit: also, from the looks of it, either Gaunce was a complete steal, or this team's offensive talent pool is a bit more shallow imo. Gaunce was predicted to go as high as 10-12 last season and fell because of the firesale on Dmen and Laughton's sudden rise. We were very lucky to pick him and I hadn't even considered the possibility of him being available at 26 last year. Much like Shinkaruk at 24 this year. Gillis has nailed it with pretty much every first round pick recently. No complaints whatsoever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrene Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 (edited) Gaunce was predicted to go as high as 10-12 last season and fell because of the firesale on Dmen and Laughton's sudden rise. We were very lucky to pick him and I hadn't even considered the possibility of him being available at 26 last year. Much like Shinkaruk at 24 this year. Gillis has nailed it with pretty much every first round pick recently. No complaints whatsoever. which brings me to my next question... why draft someone so safe with the 9th overall pick when we have someone exactly like him in our farm? We could've easily drafted a very high-ended dman if there were no other forwards that were BPA (Aside from Nichuskin). I'm not trying to bash on this pick or anything, but I really expected a very dynamic player for such a high draft pick. By the look of things if Gillis wanted a 3rd line C, Gaunce will be more ready than Horvat by this point, but you never know. Edited July 1, 2013 by Pyrene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik Kesler Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I have mixed feelings about this pick. Though he's highly touted, can any of you tell me the difference between him and Brendan Gaunce? Similar styles, same point productions, etc. Similar to Guance but more offensive upside. Yes he and Gaunce had near mirror point production, but you have to remember Horvat is a year younger than Gaunce and just as productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrene Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Similar to Guance but more offensive upside. Yes he and Gaunce had near mirror point production, but you have to remember Horvat is a year younger than Gaunce and just as productive. Gaunce produced just as well on his draft year. Just wanted a more dynamic player is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik Kesler Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Gaunce produced just as well on his draft year. Just wanted a more dynamic player is all. Fair enough. Looks like Canucks are going to roll a Boston/LA style top-6 in the future with Gaunce and Horvat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the Slot Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I think the argument can be made that: Its alot harder to find a dynamic/explosive/big center if you don't have a top 4 pick. Those guys are not a dime a dozen and go very early, just like big, offensive defenseman. So, get the best big, two way center and in future years fill out your roster with a dynamic winger as those are easier to find than the center. Nazzy, Morrison, Bert were a great line, but Morrison was never considered an "elite" center. Just a very good 2 way guy. And he didn't have size. I don't mine Horvat/Gaunce as our future 1/2 if we can find the talent on the wings to support a responsible 2 way center. My only issue is, you typically want a guy who can distribute the puck well at center. Neither of these guys are playmakers. They are good scorers, good in their own end character guys, Rod Brind'amour comes to mind for the old folks. Perhaps this means they are keeping Schroeder and will bookend him with size, which would make sense and move Guance to the wing, where he has shown some prowess. Shinkaruk Horvat Kassian Gaunce Schroeder Jensen Alot of hope and assumptions here and all of those players HAVE to develop but here is some good all around skill there. Shinkaruk will have to show he can score like he did in Junior and Schroeder will have to make the next step now...but if they do, the rest of that top 2 lines looks decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I think the argument can be made that: Its alot harder to find a dynamic/explosive/big center if you don't have a top 4 pick. Those guys are not a dime a dozen and go very early, just like big, offensive defenseman. So, get the best big, two way center and in future years fill out your roster with a dynamic winger as those are easier to find than the center. Nazzy, Morrison, Bert were a great line, but Morrison was never considered an "elite" center. Just a very good 2 way guy. And he didn't have size. I don't mine Horvat/Gaunce as our future 1/2 if we can find the talent on the wings to support a responsible 2 way center. My only issue is, you typically want a guy who can distribute the puck well at center. Neither of these guys are playmakers. They are good scorers, good in their own end character guys, Rod Brind'amour comes to mind for the old folks. Perhaps this means they are keeping Schroeder and will bookend him with size, which would make sense and move Guance to the wing, where he has shown some prowess. Shinkaruk Horvat Kassian Gaunce Schroeder Jensen Alot of hope and assumptions here and all of those players HAVE to develop but here is some good all around skill there. Shinkaruk will have to show he can score like he did in Junior and Schroeder will have to make the next step now...but if they do, the rest of that top 2 lines looks decent. Schroeder has shown an ability to do what you suggest. Almost a given now that he centers the 3rd line come October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Killer Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Similar to Guance but more offensive upside. Yes he and Gaunce had near mirror point production, but you have to remember Horvat is a year younger than Gaunce and just as productive. Exactly. Keep a close eye on London next year.. he was still on the second line for much of this season. Likewise with Miles Liberati, these guys have had older players in front of them for alot of the time. Horvat is definitely a playoff performer, thats why he went up so high in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I really enjoyed reading this Draft Prospect Profile on Bo. Looks like a keeper. http://thehockeywriters.com/bo-horvat-the-next-ones-nhl-2013-draft-prospect-profile/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Grabner Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Honestly, I would have been okay with trading Schneider for the 9th overall pick had we taken Nichushkin. No disrespect to Horvat as he is a great 2 way centre player who is good in all situations but from what I've seen of him, he is a slightly lesser version of Kesler. Not as good of a shot but better passer. Nichushkin is going to be a monster in the NHL, probably the best power forward winger you'll find in the draft. 6'4" almost 200 lbs at his age. Imagine a line of Jensen/Schroeder/Nichushkin - Sniper/Playmaker/Power Forward. Oh well, crying over spilt mlk now. I hope Horvat proves me wrong and turns into a star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Man so stoked for Bo Horvat with this franchise. Really wanted him from the start, Bo is a player you want on your team. He plays big when you are calling for a big goal, big shot block, big faceoff win. He has absolute character written all over him, his coaches preach about his leadership skills, even when as a rookie last season with London, he was their go to man in all key situations. Throughout this past OHL playoffs and memorial cup run, Horvat was a key contributor on the scoresheet for the Knights. He plays big when he is called upon and knows how to increase the intensity of his game. He loves to score, go watch some highlights on youtube of him and you can see the pure joy he has when he scores. This guy interecepts pucks galore much like Pavel Datsyuk, and has amazing speed when he skates. Never to be confused with pavel Bure speed, but his acceleration is pretty good, and is strong on the puck, not pushed off easily. What I love most is his willingness to go to the net with the puck, there is no hesitation on his part to drive the net. Majority of his goals, in front of the net waiting to get the garbage goals. I jumped outta my seat when we traded Schneids but started screaming when I heard we selected Bo. Horvat won't be a superstar player, but he will be that player everyone wants on their team, and almost the backbone because of how much he brings to the table everygame. Sounds a lot like Bergeron and Richards, not the best player on the team, but essentailly the heart and soul. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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