TNucks1 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 sutter when he thought he was healthy and signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCon1 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 17 hours ago, Fred65 said: But again when did he know he had a problem ? Was there no medical when he re-signed by a competant medical staff. This problem is man made JB doesnt seem to check or care if a player is fit to play. Just re-signs them right away. We could have gotten some other players signed in off season instead of sutter and hamonic. Pretty pathetic management in all honesty. So now we start with 3 regulars out already and a couple of more injuries and we would look like a non-playoff team. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 They announced he is dealing with long-COVID and doesn't sound like they expect him anytime soon if at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 33 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: They announced he is dealing with long-COVID and doesn't sound like they expect him anytime soon if at all. Definitely there’s no timeline, now that it’s confirmed Sutter’s health issues are related to long-Covid. As I understand it, rest and pacing are the most effective treatments, and the duration needed varies from individual to individual. Certainly Sutter has a lot going for him, as he was previously very healthy, as an elite athlete, so hopefully his recovery is quicker and more compete than many others in the same situation, but it’s really impossible to predict. And it’s likely going to take him a while to train and get back up to speed, and in game shape, even after he (hopefully) recovers fully from these symptoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 17 hours ago, Fred65 said: But again when did he know he had a problem ? Was there no medical when he re-signed by a competant medical staff. This problem is man made 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, DefCon1 said: JB doesnt seem to check or care if a player is fit to play. Just re-signs them right away. We could have gotten some other players signed in off season instead of sutter and hamonic. Pretty pathetic management in all honesty. So now we start with 3 regulars out already and a couple of more injuries and we would look like a non-playoff team. Seems to be the case. Here's the question if the likes of maybe Downey doing just as well, does that show ineptitude by JB. Dowling is younger,cheaper and does not have Sutters long history of injuries. Not that I'm hyping Dowling, simply using him to point out there are younger and cheaper vets available Edited October 12, 2021 by Fred65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 26 minutes ago, mll said: I'm not convinced that a thorough medical would have missed the sign, chnaces are blood work alone would have shown the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gawdzukes Posted October 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2021 39 minutes ago, Fred65 said: I'm not convinced that a thorough medical would have missed the sign, chnaces are blood work alone would have shown the problem Why thanks for the update doc. Really glad you're on the staff. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: Why thanks for the update doc. Really glad you're on the staff. It's not rocket science, any one that's had a thorough medical knows that blood work is part of the process. I have blood work done likely 4 times a year and then discuss it with my GP. If you listen you can learn. Heck they have to know if he has glucose problems ie pending diabetis amongst other things. I'd think a covid test for an athlete is not optional Edited October 12, 2021 by Fred65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, Fred65 said: It's not rocket science, any one that's had a thorough medical knows that blood work is part of the process. I have blood work done likely 4 times a year and then discuss it with my GP. If you listen you can learn. Heck they have to know if he has glucose problems ie pending diabetis amongst other things. I'd think a covid test for an athlete is not optional So as a doctor you know that he didn't have a physical, or bloodwork, and that long haul Covid is easily identifiable through a blood test?. Ok, good to know so you can throw more attacks at the team. Carry on Freddie, as always you're a vast fountain of knowledge. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 44 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: So as a doctor you know that he didn't have a physical, or bloodwork, and that long haul Covid is easily identifiable through a blood test?. Ok, good to know so you can throw more attacks at the team. Carry on Freddie, as always you're a vast fountain of knowledge. Gee thanks Gawdzukes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted October 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Fred65 said: It's not rocket science, any one that's had a thorough medical knows that blood work is part of the process. I have blood work done likely 4 times a year and then discuss it with my GP. If you listen you can learn. Heck they have to know if he has glucose problems ie pending diabetis amongst other things. I'd think a covid test for an athlete is not optional Long-Covid isn’t a long, active Covid infection. Most “long haulers” are past the acute phase and will test negative. There’s no longer live virus running amok in their bodies. It’s a post-viral syndrome, which is much more difficult to identify with lab tests. I believe researchers are working right now on some autoantibodies tests, but I don’t think there’s an actual test available currently for long-Covid. Certainly it’s not something that would pop up or get flagged on a standard blood count and chem panel, or whatever additional lab tests are generally ordered as part of a normal physical. I think what’s being reported sounds very plausible. Sutter would have tested negative for Covid and likely felt pretty normal for most of the summer. He would have been considered medically cleared when he signed his extension in July. And then these current health issues only started to emerge sometime around mid-August. Edited October 12, 2021 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Typos 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Fred65 said: I'm not convinced that a thorough medical would have missed the sign, chnaces are blood work alone would have shown the problem It's hard to say, they really don't know what they are looking for in the bloodwork, to identify the issue, or how to treat it. There is a lot more that we don't really know about long-term Covid right now, than science actually knows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackcanuck Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Sutter speaking on his Long haul C-19 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: It's hard to say, they really don't know what they are looking for in the bloodwork, to identify the issue, or how to treat it. There is a lot more that we don't really know about long-term Covid right now, than science actually knows. At least Sutter had a positive test with his initial Covid infection. There are Covid long haulers who’ve never tested positive. They got sick early in the pandemic and just quarantined, never took the test (in many cases were even advised by health authorities not to get tested and just home quarantine), and now they are facing a longterm medical issue that’s not exactly easy for them to prove, or even get diagnosed. Just a nightmare scenario, especially if you know what it’s already like for people with chronic illnesses trying to navigate the health system (and even worse in the US, where treatments and benefits might get denied without a positive test). Edited October 12, 2021 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Sad to say but I think his career is over now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaninMex Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 14 hours ago, Fred65 said: It's not rocket science, any one that's had a thorough medical knows that blood work is part of the process. I have blood work done likely 4 times a year and then discuss it with my GP. If you listen you can learn. Heck they have to know if he has glucose problems ie pending diabetis amongst other things. I'd think a covid test for an athlete is not optional https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=DW+long+covid second one down. Could cause... Diabetes is not Covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 17 hours ago, Mackcanuck said: Sutter speaking on his Long haul C-19 [...] That quote was from back in April when he caught Covid. Doesn't look he has addressed media since being diagnosed with long Covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 31 minutes ago, mll said: That quote was from back in April when he caught Covid. Doesn't look he has addressed media since being diagnosed with long Covid. I heard him on 650 when he re-signed his latest deal. He sounded excited to get back to training camp, so his symptoms may have only happened when he tried to push himself to get ready for camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Is there anything on when we can expect Sutter back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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