J-P Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 2 hours ago, -AJ- said: - Edler is one of only 11 Canuck defensemen to ever win a face-off. In fact, Edler is 2nd all-time among Canucks with 8 face-off wins on 19 attempts for a face-off percentage of 42.1%, giving him a face-off percentage just 0.2 percentage points below Connor McDavid's career average of 42.3%. WTF, how and why did he ever take 19 faceoffs?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 51 minutes ago, J-P said: WTF, how and why did he ever take 19 faceoffs?! Likely other players being kicked out of the faceoff dot. If two forwards got kicked out on the PK, a d-man would have to take it, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 well seems other teams want him, so TDL lets make a deal, or resign him to a 3 to 5 year deal as going forward we will need to replace him right away and we will not get anything back that will be as good as him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAce Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 On 10/21/2018 at 3:38 PM, J-P said: WTF, how and why did he ever take 19 faceoffs?! possibly with the current 3v3 overtime format. We used to run 2-dmen /1 forward so if the forward was kicked out, Edler stepped in . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Stoch Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Well there goes my hopes of him really boosting his trade value for the TDL. If there's finally a year that he'd be willing to waive his NTC, it'd be this season since he can just come sign back here in the off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 The way this team is going I'd rather keep him for a playoff push. Even if we were to sneak into the playoffs, even a 4 game sweep would be invaluable for the likes of Horvat, Boeser, Pettersson and our young defence. The 2nd round pick or prospect we might get back from Edler would be nice, but you can't quantify the value a playoff game would be to our kids. That's why I think we should keep Edler. If we're well and truly out of a playoff spot then sure go for it, Edler for picks or prospects, but if we've even got a chance we should keep him around because even playing in important games down the stretch would be huge for our kids so they can learn what it takes to win important games rather than these throw away 7-6 OT games early in the season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 7 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: The 2nd round pick or prospect we might get back from Edler would be nice Neither here nor there on your main premise but Edler's worth a LOT more than a late 2nd FYI. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindiculous Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 1 hour ago, aGENT said: Neither here nor there on your main premise but Edler's worth a LOT more than a late 2nd FYI. If Hamonic is worth a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, Edler is worth at least that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 29 minutes ago, Rindiculous said: If Hamonic is worth a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, Edler is worth at least that. Except Hamonic is 28 and in his prime while Edler is 32 and in the decline. That age difference does tend to make a difference. I appreciate your enthusiasm, but to expect Edler to be worth more is wishful thinking at best. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAce Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 I know its just a small sample of games, but we have done very well without Edler . I dont think his loss would be as big as an impact as people think. This team is built on its youth upfront and will live and die by how our goaltending does. If a team would be willing to trade a decent prospect or late 1st round pick then id be happy to move him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 19 minutes ago, TheAce said: I know its just a small sample of games, but we have done very well without Edler . I dont think his loss would be as big as an impact as people think. This team is built on its youth upfront and will live and die by how our goaltending does. If a team would be willing to trade a decent prospect or late 1st round pick then id be happy to move him. You said it right off the bat. It's a small sample size. Put this kind of stress on our goaltending and defense through an entire season and the strain will show. Edler is nothing amazing but he's our best all-around defenseman. The fact this team has accomplished what it has without him and the other injured is pretty astounding - but can't last imo. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogersTowell Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 On 11/3/2018 at 1:49 PM, The Lock said: Except Hamonic is 28 and in his prime while Edler is 32 and in the decline. That age difference does tend to make a difference. I appreciate your enthusiasm, but to expect Edler to be worth more is wishful thinking at best. But tone down your comparison because Edler's averaged 0.442 ppg over his career while Hamonic averged 0.302. Edler's best season was 49 points, Hamonics was 33. Edler's still got a lot of value to the right team. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 32 minutes ago, TheAce said: I know its just a small sample of games, but we have done very well without Edler . I dont think his loss would be as big as an impact as people think. This team is built on its youth upfront and will live and die by how our goaltending does. If a team would be willing to trade a decent prospect or late 1st round pick then id be happy to move him. The difference team GAA and SV% with and without Edler this year is dramatic. Seems team scores more goals when he is not in lineup but in terms of goals against and SV%, it isn't even close (the difference). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 38 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said: The difference team GAA and SV% with and without Edler this year is dramatic. Seems team scores more goals when he is not in lineup but in terms of goals against and SV%, it isn't even close (the difference). Freaking baffling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 hour ago, RogersTowell said: But tone down your comparison because Edler's averaged 0.442 ppg over his career while Hamonic averged 0.302. Edler's best season was 49 points, Hamonics was 33. Edler's still got a lot of value to the right team. Especially considering Edler is on an expiring contract. At the TDL a team that thinks they’re close to the Cup would pay a lot for Edler. I’d say a first, and a good prospect for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 18 hours ago, kloubek said: You said it right off the bat. It's a small sample size. Put this kind of stress on our goaltending and defense through an entire season and the strain will show. Edler is nothing amazing but he's our best all-around defenseman. The fact this team has accomplished what it has without him and the other injured is pretty astounding - but can't last imo. Small sample size that I doubt would stand up over a season. I still would move Tanev before Edler based on perceived value. Re-sign Edler on shorter term with a limited no-trade. RHD would have Hughes, Guddy, Stecher, Biega and Pouliot has moved to the right side in the past. A Tanev trade should/could bring back a 'd' prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Mark Stowe (Alex Edler’s agent) on Sportsnet 650: “Alex is progressing and is on schedule for his return. No talks with Vancouver yet on a contract but, Alex wants to stay in Vancouver. There needs to be a meeting of the minds but we need the Canucks to make the first step.” "The problem from my side as his rep, there is no guarantee they can bring him back. If he waives, no guarantee the Canucks can re-sign him July 1st. It's wishing and hoping and speculation." On the fans and media fascination for Edler to waive his NTC: "Fascination might be putting it mildly it's an obsession." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) On 11/10/2018 at 8:23 AM, Boudrias said: Small sample size that I doubt would stand up over a season. I still would move Tanev before Edler based on perceived value. Re-sign Edler on shorter term with a limited no-trade. RHD would have Hughes, Guddy, Stecher, Biega and Pouliot has moved to the right side in the past. A Tanev trade should/could bring back a 'd' prospect. I think we're finally starting to see the effects the last few games. Guys playing over their heads are starting to look it. And all of this is not likely helped by what appears to be Markstrom playing through some nagging issue. You know you're goalie's hurt you're going to sit back and try to cover for him, take less chances, press less offensively. Sounds a lot like the last few games.... Edited November 14, 2018 by aGENT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-P Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, aGENT said: I think we're finally starting to see the effects the last few games. Guys playing over their heads are starting to look it. And all of this is not likely helped by what appears to be Markstrom playing through some nagging issue. You mean since Edler's also at least half a goalie? And yeah, it reallys shows now that he's missing on D... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 3 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Mark Stowe (Alex Edler’s agent) on Sportsnet 650: “Alex is progressing and is on schedule for his return. No talks with Vancouver yet on a contract but, Alex wants to stay in Vancouver. There needs to be a meeting of the minds but we need the Canucks to make the first step.” "The problem from my side as his rep, there is no guarantee they can bring him back. If he waives, no guarantee the Canucks can re-sign him July 1st. It's wishing and hoping and speculation." On the fans and media fascination for Edler to waive his NTC: "Fascination might be putting it mildly it's an obsession." Good on Stowe for calling it like it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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