Trebreh Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 23 hours ago, terrible.dee said: Uhh......didn't Gudbransson get dropped? I mean he waws right back up, but if you had to call a winner, it looked like Martin, sorry but that's the truth. Doesn't matter though, those two could fight 10 times and it would probably be 5-5 and had any of those bombs really connected it would have been lights out for Martin or anyone else, That is legitimate deterrent Gudbranson was never dropped in that fight from a punch. At the 30 sec mark, you see him throw a left hook and misses causing him to lose balance. Martin then used his left arm to keep him down and proceeded to punch his back and shoulder area (none of which did any damage) as Gudbranson was getting up. from 23-27 sec Gudbranson connected 6 hard shots before dropping Martin with the final punch. Martin will think twice about acting a fool with Gudbranson on the ice next time he should be thankful he didn't have to fight Pedan instead, cause he would've gotten knocked out the way he fought Gudbranson. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 8 hours ago, JamesB said: Alf, neither Hutton nor Stecher is playing passively from the back end. And, as for keeping goals down, only 7 teams in the NHL have allowed more goals against than the Canucks, so the Canucks are sitting in 23rd spot.. Yes, Edler is missed. He gets way too much criticism on CDC. He consistently goes up against the other teams' top line and does well, and he does a great job on the PK. His offense has taken a step back this year, but he is still an offensive threat. But I am not sure Hutton should simplify his game. We hear and read that a lot -- player x should simplify his game, But the most valuable defencemen are guys who don't play a simple game -- guys who have some offensive creativity as well as solid defensive play. (Doughty, Karlsson, Keith, Subban, etc) There is some possibility that Hutton can develop into a significant offensive threat. I want to see him keep trying. Same with Stecher. If we give up a few extra goals this year, I am not going to worry about it. After all, the Canucks are currently in 28th place. Exactly right! Hutton's game is far more complicated than Gudbranson's. He has less NHL experience as well. He knows his role is to generate offense and it impacts his play at times. Fans should remember he is a 2nd year pro and his TOI is teaching him towards what he will become not what he necessarily does in any given game. My comment about Hutton is not a put down of Gudbranson by any means. His role on this team is different and no less important. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 7 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: The difference, in my opinion is that Stecher seems to have a laser like focus and innate ability to see the game in a way that Hutton doesn't. I like Hutton, don't get me wrong, but he needs to not get so frazzled. When comparing Stecher and Hutton I would caution that Hutton is a 2nd year pro and Stecher a rookie. Stecher is taking many teams by surprise because they have no book on him whereas they have seen Hutton. To a degree Hutton had as much success last year for the same reason. Stecher is trying to stay in the NHL as a rookie and Hutton is looking to refine his game and is trying plays to do that. As his experience grows his game will improve. I'm very happy with his progress this year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Boudrias said: Exactly right! Hutton's game is far more complicated than Gudbranson's. He has less NHL experience as well. He knows his role is to generate offense and it impacts his play at times. Fans should remember he is a 2nd year pro and his TOI is teaching him towards what he will become not what he necessarily does in any given game. My comment about Hutton is not a put down of Gudbranson by any means. His role on this team is different and no less important. Fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Boudrias said: When comparing Stecher and Hutton I would caution that Hutton is a 2nd year pro and Stecher a rookie. Stecher is taking many teams by surprise because they have no book on him whereas they have seen Hutton. To a degree Hutton had as much success last year for the same reason. Stecher is trying to stay in the NHL as a rookie and Hutton is looking to refine his game and is trying plays to do that. As his experience grows his game will improve. I'm very happy with his progress this year. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 18 hours ago, SilentSam said: .. and the sky is falling again so let's blame it on our D core. .. not the systems,. and definitely not the lack of scoring from our forwards. Yes, let's rip our young, D end.. our forwards aren't doing anything anyway. Christ you guys,. time for new Denta-Creme or what? Outlet passes from the D are essential for offense in today's NHL. It is one of the reasons Canucks struggle to score, our D is not good enough at moving the puck. Not Guddy or Sbisa's strong point for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derp... Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Tre Mac said: Outlet passes from the D are essential for offense in today's NHL. It is one of the reasons Canucks struggle to score, our D is not good enough at moving the puck. Not Guddy or Sbisa's strong point for sure. Torts said the D to D pass is dead. If Torts said it, it must really be dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Guddy gets a couple of points. Does this mean he is off the fan hotseat? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAFan33 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Gudbransen's major weakness is his skating. It's terrible, particularly with respect to mobility and direction changes. He's a big, strong guy that can't hit all that effectively or at least consistently, because every time he has to change direction before delivering it, he loses all the power while fighting to stay on his feet. It also takes him forever to pivot or adjust compared to the average he's facing, never mind some of the elite skaters. He's strong in front of the net when everyone is standing still, but at that point, the puck is usually already frozen by the goalie or in the back of the net. It puts him out of position on a pretty regular basis or forces him to leave a ridiculously big gap so he doesn't get caught. He has to hold back on hits because he regularly gets caught out of position when he misses, or ends up more off balance than the guy who got hit. He's an average d-man at best. If he wants to be better than that, he needs to improve his skating. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Another rough game. Where's the physicality? Thought he was suppose to make players think twice before coming to the net? God I hope he improves on the ice and soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Bang Boogie Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Tre Mac said: Another rough game. Where's the physicality? Thought he was suppose to make players think twice before coming to the net? God I hope he improves on the ice and soon. I've wondered that too. He looks completely different from the player he was in Florida, where he was a beast night in and night out. What happened to that guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 On 2016-12-09 at 7:28 AM, Boudrias said: Guddy gets a couple of points. Does this mean he is off the fan hotseat? Apparently the love does not last long around here. Perhaps fans should look at the whole screen when a goal goes in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 17 minutes ago, Bang Bang Boogie said: I've wondered that too. He looks completely different from the player he was in Florida, where he was a beast night in and night out. What happened to that guy? Coaching and system? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 20 minutes ago, Bang Bang Boogie said: I've wondered that too. He looks completely different from the player he was in Florida, where he was a beast night in and night out. What happened to that guy? I'd have to agree with Alflives here. Gudbranson's game couldn't have been this neutered without a reason. He was a far more physical player in Florida. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAFan33 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) 9 hours ago, Bang Bang Boogie said: I've wondered that too. He looks completely different from the player he was in Florida, where he was a beast night in and night out. What happened to that guy? I never watched him in Florida, so I can't really comment on the comparison. But $&!#ty calls like the charging one he took in the Carolina game probably don't really help. And by $&!#ty, I mean the ref that made the call, not the hit itself. The hit was fine. NHL officiating is inconsistent, to say the least. Edited December 15, 2016 by JustAFan33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Bagues Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Is he hurt or just scratched for the game tonight against Tampa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Team Bagues said: Is he hurt or just scratched for the game tonight against Tampa? They mentioned an he was injured during the broadcast, I'm not sure what the problem is exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Bagues Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 23 minutes ago, Salmonberries said: They mentioned an he was injured during the broadcast, I'm not sure what the problem is exactly. K thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 (edited) 10 hours ago, Salmonberries said: They mentioned an he was injured during the broadcast, I'm not sure what the problem is exactly. 10 hours ago, Team Bagues said: K thanks 'Lower body' Edited December 17, 2016 by J.R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 11 hours ago, Salmonberries said: They mentioned an he was injured during the broadcast, I'm not sure what the problem is exactly. I wonder if they are saying this just to save face from being scratched to give Gunny a few games to re-find his game. Although it is difficult to see them playing Biega over Gunny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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