Roger Neilsons Towel Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 An Indian newspaper claims a Surrey, B.C. man is running a terror camp out of Mission, B.C. By MARTIN VAN DEN HEMEL May 30, 2016 - Updated 2:54 PM A newspaper report out of India claims a Surrey man is running a terror camp in Mission. While Canadian terrorism expert Phil Gurski said nothing is impossible, he added: “I think there’s more questions than answers right now.” According to the Times of India, intelligence agencies in India have “sent an alert to Canada’s Justiin Trudeau government, saying that pro-Khalistan terrorists are running a camp near Mission city in British Columbia to carry out strikes in Punjab.” The article goes on to name the Surrey man who has “taken over as the operational head of Khalistan Terror Force…and formed a module comprising Sikh youths to carry out the attacks.” But Gurski, president of Borealis Threat and Risk Consulting, said that “Indians are obsessed with the possibility of further Sikh extremism in Canada.” On Monday afternoon, Mounties acknowledged that they were aware of the “recent media report originating outside of Canada,” RCMP Staff Sgt. Rob Vermeulen said. “The RCMP monitors all potential threats but we are not in a position to speak to specific allegations, threats or ongoing investigations,” he said. But Vermeulen said the RCMP encourages “the public to remain vigilant and report any suspicious behaviour to their local police agency for assessment and follow-up.” Terrorism expert Gurski said that while the “nature and size of Sikh extremism” isn’t what it was three decades ago, he said it would be naive to think it’s entirely disappeared. Asked about the possibility of a terror camp operating in Canada, Gurski said: “Is it impossible? No. Is it probable? That’s hard to judge.” Asked if the RCMP should investigate the allegations, Gurski said the vast majority of resources are rightly focused on Islamist extremism, which is a very real threat. Should resources be shifted to look at Sikh extremism based on this report? “I have nothing to suggest it’s a huge problem,” Gurski said. “But has it disappeared? Not likely.” But Gurski said the Times of India article is a “very serious allegation by an unknown person.” Another critical question is how the information came to be known in India, he said. “Where is the information coming from? Are they running operations here? Shouldn’t they be doing that in their home country?” Gurski said. The Times of India story claims the Surrey man is a “proclaimed terrorist in Punjab” who is wanted for a 2007 cinema bombing that killed six people. Source: Mission City Recordhttp://www.missioncityrecord.com/news/381301031.html Original Times of India article can be found here:http://toi.in/wLR2za/a18fg --- UPDATE: Mission’s Mayor has doubts about report of terrorist training camp in his community Vancouver, BC, Canada / News Talk 980 CKNW | Posted: May 30, 2016 02:16 am Last Updated: May 30, 2016 01:30 pm The Mayor of Mission says he’s discounting a report in an Indian newspaper, claiming a terrorist training camp may be operating in his community. “It is the first that I’ve heard of it.” Randy Hawes says the article from the Times of India that raises red flags. If Sikh youth are training with AK-47s four hours a day at a pro-Khalistan camp, Hawes says it would likely trigger complaints from the public. “The RCMP would have some knowledge of it, and they certainly would have shared it with our council.” Hawes adds the Sikh temple in his community is a moderate one – and if there was worry Mission was turning into a hotbed of terrorism, he’s sure he would hear about that as well. The article in the Times of India also claims the federal government has been warned about the camp. It alleges Hardeep Nijjar, a Sikh man, is the head of the ‘Khalistan Terror Force’ and operating a pro-Khalistan training camp to carry out attacks in the state of Punjab. The article says Nijjar has been living in Surrey since 1995, has a Canadian passport, and alleges he’s wanted in connection to a 2007 bombing at a cinema that killed 6 people. But, for its part, Public Safety Canada says it cannot comment on specific allegations or threats connected to national security. That said, the ministry notes it will respond to any credible warning and threat the security and intelligence community receives. Source:http://www.cknw.com/2016/05/30/times...mp-in-mission/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Neilsons Towel Posted May 31, 2016 Author Share Posted May 31, 2016 Not exactly the way I like to see my hometown on the map. Hoping the news report is false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dral Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Anyone living in Mission currently that can comment on AK-47 gun fire and bomb explosions ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Neilsons Towel Posted May 31, 2016 Author Share Posted May 31, 2016 1 minute ago, Dral said: Anyone living in Mission currently that can comment on AK-47 gun fire and bomb explosions ? I know I haven't heard any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Bindy's back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Hopefully false, although if not, "Get 'em!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Does it really matter what religion a terrorist claims to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 So indians are terrorists At least if I follow the muslim/islam threads and apply the same mind set that most are in them with the same wide sweeping brush Indians are terrorists because there is an alleged camp somewhere in BC and Sikhs used to be considered a terrorist group and have the Air India incident under their belt as well as other events on the sub continent to back those claims up Am I ign'nt ing properly here? Edit* No I am not seriously calling all indians let alone anyone or even singling out Sikhs as terrorists. Just applying the same brush some do in muslim threads and wondering what their responses will be. Edit** for content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 One thing I find a little odd about this story is this ......... "saying that pro-Khalistan terrorists are running a camp near Mission city in British Columbia to carry out strikes in Punjab.” For those who do not know, Sikhs call the province of Punjab home. It strikes me as a little odd that these guys in the story would target their own state and fellow Sikhs. It would make far more sense to strike at the capital New Dehli in the state of Uttar Pradesh. These stories are often rumored to be planted by the ISI in Pakistan. The timing is interesting as early June is the anniversary of Operation Blue Star. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Blue_Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintPatrick33 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 1 hour ago, Dral said: Anyone living in Mission currently that can comment on AK-47 gun fire and bomb explosions ? Most likely at stave lake /s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 6 minutes ago, Warhippy said: So indians are terrorists At least if I follow the muslim/islam threads and apply the same mind set that most are in them with the same wide sweeping brush Indians are terrorists because there is an alleged camp somewhere in BC and Sikhs used to be considered a terrorist group and have the Lockerbie incident under their belt as well as other events on the sub continent to back those claims up Am I ign'nt ing properly here? Edit* No I am not seriously calling all indians let alone anyone or even singling out Sikhs as terrorists. Just applying the same brush some do in muslim threads and wondering what their responses will be. Lockerbie was Libyans (Gadaffi). I think you are referring to the Air India bombing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Neilsons Towel Posted May 31, 2016 Author Share Posted May 31, 2016 As someone who lives fairly close to Stave Lake, I can say that is very unlikely. Mostly Four wheel drive enthusiasts and target Practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said: One thing I find a little odd about this story is this ......... "saying that pro-Khalistan terrorists are running a camp near Mission city in British Columbia to carry out strikes in Punjab.” For those who do not know, Sikhs call the province of Punjab home. It strikes me as a little odd that these guys in the story would target their own state and fellow Sikhs. It would make far more sense to strike at the capital New Dehli in the state of Uttar Pradesh. These stories are often rumored to be planted by the ISI in Pakistan. The timing is interesting as early June is the anniversary of Operation Blue Star. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Blue_Star It depends on what their target is. As far as I know not all people from Punjab are Sikhs and extremists generally don't worry too much about collateral damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 17 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said: Lockerbie was Libyans (Gadaffi). I think you are referring to the Air India bombing. Totally right, thanks for the clarification. Corrected. Also, I see you're quite knowledgeable about the subject, Does the indian government really believe that a camp could exist in BC and of all places; New West? I find it hard to fathom as it's highly improbable although far from impossible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 32 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Totally right, thanks for the clarification. Corrected. Also, I see you're quite knowledgeable about the subject, Does the indian government really believe that a camp could exist in BC and of all places; New West? I find it hard to fathom as it's highly improbable although far from impossible I find this report to be highly unlikely but I agree it's not impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Neilsons Towel Posted May 31, 2016 Author Share Posted May 31, 2016 41 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Totally right, thanks for the clarification. Corrected. Also, I see you're quite knowledgeable about the subject, Does the indian government really believe that a camp could exist in BC and of all places; New West? I find it hard to fathom as it's highly improbable although far from impossible They are claiming it's located in Mission (Fraser Valley), not New Westminster. But either is equally unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Almost as bad as RAMBO in Hope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 15 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Almost as bad as RAMBO in Hope... +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 11 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Totally right, thanks for the clarification. Corrected. Also, I see you're quite knowledgeable about the subject, Does the indian government really believe that a camp could exist in BC and of all places; New West? I find it hard to fathom as it's highly improbable although far from impossible Yeah I do know a bit about it. I can never forget the Air India bombing as a relative of mine was a passenger. Sadly, there is a precedent for this type of crap in BC. The day of the Air India bombing (June 1985) there was a second bombing at Narita Airport in Japan (Tokyo) that killed 2 baggage handlers. That bomb was intended for a second Air India plane. Had that bomb gone of when it was intended approx 200 people would have been killed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Narita_International_Airport_bombing The bombmaker was living in Duncan on Vancouver Island at the time and was practicing blowing sh*t up in the woods. He was convicted in the Narita bombing. That a-hole's story can be found here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182 He was initially approached by 2 like minded a-holes to make the bombs. When they all went on trial in the flight 182 bombing that killed 329 people. He struck a deal with prosecutors. from wiki ... "In exchange for pleading guilty to the charge of manslaughter in the Flight 182 bombing, he was sentenced to five years in prison. He also had to testify against the two other men tried in Canada for these incidents, Ripudaman Singh Malik and Ajaib Singh Bagri. Justice Ian Josephson acquitted them, as he believed that the prosecutors had not been able to meet the standard of proof "beyond a reasonable doubt." In reading the verdicts of Malik and Bagri, Justice Josephson commented about Reyat's testimony at their trial: "Even the most sympathetic of listeners could only conclude, as do I, that his evidence was patently and pathetically fabricated in an attempt to minimize his involvement in his crime to an extreme degree, while refusing to reveal relevant information he clearly possesses. His hollow expression of remorse for his crime must have been a bitter pill for the families of the victims." <-------- yeah the judge pretty much nailed it. He was later put on trial again for perjury and convicted and sentenced to time served. To answer your question. Based on past history I guess the Indian government has a duty to take these reports seriously. As does the Canadian government. Like others here though I highly doubt there is a terrorist camp in Mission blasting of AK-47's for hours on end. The whole report sounds ridiculous. Like I said earlier it is most likely a BS story planted by the ISI out of Pakistan. Probably trying to stir sh*t up against arch enemy India. Just trying to rile up tensions between Hindus and Sikh's again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintPatrick33 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 19 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: +1 35 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Almost as bad as RAMBO in Hope... I second that +1, with a plus 1 of my own. For the uninitiated, the first Rambo flick was filmed in beautiful Hope, BC. Response of the week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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