smithers joe Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 a goalie and 7 or 8 skaters.. who would you protect? sedins have to be protected. sutter horvat hansen baerschi dorsett granlund not sure if rodin needs to be. tanev gudbranson edler sbisa subban markstrom seven will have to be unprotected or traded away first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted May 31, 2016 Author Share Posted May 31, 2016 for me...the sedins, sutter, horvat, tanev and gudbranson..only leaves one spot left... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 29 minutes ago, smithers joe said: for me...the sedins, sutter, horvat, tanev and gudbranson..only leaves one spot left... I'd add Baertschi to that list. Markstrom is the goaltender to protect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond Luxury Yacht Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I couldn't find anything to support this, but from pundits and insiders, I have been hearing that waiver ineligible players are already protected and NMC contracts are protected. This means the Sedins shouldn't need to be selected as one(two) of the skaters. As for the goalie, we should sign Miller for one more season just to keep him unprotected. It seems to me that a high-value, aging goalie won't be as much of a target. There will be some young goalies available at the expansion draft for sure. I'm curious to see what the actual rules are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 We have to watch out with the idea that if a player is left unprotected that they should be traded off first. We have to remember: A )A team can only lose one player. B )A team is trying to build a complete roster, not just a grouping of decent players at any random position. We see all these people throwing the idea that all these goalies will be traded, but if there’s only one expansion team, how many $5+ million goalies does the Vegas team need? You just have to except the fact that at least one decent player on every team will be moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor.of.Perception Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 From what I've read there is 2 options: A ) 7 forwards, 3 defensemen, and 1 goalie B ) 8 players, and 1 goalie As well anyone playing their first pro year (AHL or NHL) in 2015-2016 are exempt, and don't require protection. I have not heard anything confirmed on NMC or NTC however, so they could required a mandatory protection or be exempt. Sedin Sedin Baertschi Horvat Sutter Etem Granlund Edler Tanev Gudbranson Markstrom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 We still don't know for sure if they are going to expand, although I really believe that they will. My personal opinion is that they will add Las Vegas first and add Quebec a year later. I think they will decide to delay Quebec for a year to see how the Canadian Dollar plays out. Just my thoughts on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Not sure if this is current, but the following is a good article on this (taken from: http://vancouversun.com/sports/iain-macintyre-canucks-wont-sweat-expansion-draft-as-all-key-pieces-protected) Closet capologists screaming about inflated salaries that the Vancouver Canucks gave defenceman Luca Sbisa and forward Derek Dorsett may find comfort in the National Hockey League’s potential expansion draft after next season. Of course, if their salaries are as bad as most people think, a new Las Vegas franchise won’t want them. Canucks general manager Jim Benning declined Tuesday to speak about expansion-draft scenarios that aren’t yet finalized because the NHL hasn’t even decided if a team or teams will be added for the 2017-18 season. But Vancouver shouldn’t have a problem with the 7-3-1 expansion protection plan agreed upon last month by the NHL and its players’ association. Under the tentative framework to stock a new franchise, the league’s 30 teams will be allowed to protect seven forwards, three defencemen and a goalie. To deviate from this formula, teams can protect eight skaters, regardless of position, and a goalie. This is more generosity than the NHL displayed last time it added teams, before the 2000-01 season, when the Minnesota Wild and Columbus Blue Jackets had to pick over what roster dregs remained after teams protected nine forwards, five defencemen and one goalie. Paramount factors in the next expansion draft will be exemptions and mandatory protections. The Canucks are in a strong position on both. Players with full no-movement clauses must be protected. The Canucks have only two: Daniel and Henrik Sedin. The Chicago Blackhawks have seven NMCs, while the Blue Jackets and Pittsburgh Penguins have five. Deputy commissioner Bill Daly has said players with two or fewer years in the NHL will be exempt. This provision means Canucks defencemen Ben Hutton and Nikita Tryamkin won’t require protection, nor will forwards Jake Virtanen and Jared McCann. Under these guidelines, the Canucks’ protection list is not complicated: forwards Danny and Hank, Brandon Sutter, Jannik Hansen, Bo Hovat, Sven Baertschi and possibly Markus Granlund; defencemen Alex Edler, Chris Tanev and a top-four blue-liner still to be acquired in trade or free agency; and goaltender Jacob Markstrom, assuming the Canucks re-sign him before he becomes an unrestricted free agent on July 1, 2017. Among notable Canucks, third-pairing defenceman Sbisa (two years remaining at $3.6 million US) and fourth-line forward Dorsett (three years at $2.65 million US) would be exposed in an expansion draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 16 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: We still don't know for sure if they are going to expand, although I really believe that they will. The $500, 000, 000.00 expansion fee they're asking for says the NHL board of Governors vote unanimously to add another franchise - you can bank on that on IMO. It's going to be VEGAS almost certainly. That new arena, an untapped pro-sports market in a major US center - my heart says Quebec but the dolla-billz all say VEGAS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 As of right now (assuming Horvat, Hutton, and Tryamkin don't have to be protected Daniel Sedin Henrik Sedin Brandon Sutter Jannik Hansen Sven Baertschi Markus Granlund Emerson Etem Chris Tanev Erik Gudbranson Alex Edler Markstrom if Horvat has to be protected, replace with Etem. If all 3 have to be protected, I'd be tempted to do the 8-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, Fanuck said: The $500, 000, 000.00 expansion fee they're asking for says the NHL board of Governors vote unanimously to add another franchise - you can bank on that on IMO. It's going to be VEGAS almost certainly. That new arena, an untapped pro-sports market in a major US center - my heart says Quebec but the dolla-billz all say VEGAS! I will be absolutely shocked if we don't see the Nevada Nymphos taking to the ice for either start of 2017 or 2018 season. I really think Quebec will happen as well, but I'm not sure that they will want to put both teams in place in the same season. I think they will opt to defer decision on Quebec until next summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: I will be absolutely shocked if we don't see the Nevada Nymphos taking to the ice for either start of 2017 or 2018 season. I really think Quebec will happen as well, but I'm not sure that they will want to put both teams in place in the same season. I think they will opt to defer decision on Quebec until next summer. You know what Vegas, I never actually gave much thought about whether the NHL would want both expansion team in the same year or stagger them? I'm thinking that both in one year might be too much for the system to take with reference to the scheduling that would have to be worked out and the toll it would take on even further watering down the talent level in the league. But knowing how greedy the NHL board of governors are I'm sure if you dangled 1 billion in expansion in front of them they'd expand to Saskatoon if they could, they're so stupid greedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckster19 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 16 minutes ago, Wilbur said: As of right now (assuming Horvat, Hutton, and Tryamkin don't have to be protected Daniel Sedin Henrik Sedin Brandon Sutter Jannik Hansen Sven Baertschi Markus Granlund Emerson Etem Chris Tanev Erik Gudbranson Alex Edler Markstrom if Horvat has to be protected, replace with Etem. If all 3 have to be protected, I'd be tempted to do the 8-1. If we end up signing say Brouwer and Lucic you gotta protect them, so off goes Etem and Granlund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 8 minutes ago, Fanuck said: You know what Vegas, I never actually gave much thought about whether the NHL would want both expansion team in the same year or stagger them? I'm thinking that both in one year might be too much for the system to take with reference to the scheduling that would have to be worked out and the toll it would take on even further watering down the talent level in the league. But knowing how greedy the NHL board of governors are I'm sure if you dangled 1 billion in expansion in front of them they'd expand to Saskatoon if they could, they're so stupid greedy. Doing one this year and deferring decision on the other till next summer would give them a chance to figure out Carolina ownership as well as get Arizona moved into downtown Phoenix. I actually kind of think they will announce that Vegas will start playing 2018 - 19 season and that there will be decision on anyone else next summer for 2019 - 20. This would also allow them more time on Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Just now, canuckster19 said: If we end up signing say Brouwer and Lucic you gotta protect them, so off goes Etem and Granlund. Yep, faster than Superman on laundry day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyhee Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 2 hours ago, Wilbur said: As of right now (assuming Horvat, Hutton, and Tryamkin don't have to be protected ... if Horvat has to be protected, replace ... In the summer of 2017 Horvat will have three seasons in the NHL. He will not be exempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 3 hours ago, Raymond Luxury Yacht said: I couldn't find anything to support this, but from pundits and insiders, I have been hearing that waiver ineligible players are already protected and NMC contracts are protected. This means the Sedins shouldn't need to be selected as one(two) of the skaters. As for the goalie, we should sign Miller for one more season just to keep him unprotected. It seems to me that a high-value, aging goalie won't be as much of a target. There will be some young goalies available at the expansion draft for sure. I'm curious to see what the actual rules are. I think you are mis-reading that. I take that to mean that NMCs are automatically on your protected list, meaning the team has relinquished the option by signing an NMC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond Luxury Yacht Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 21 minutes ago, lmm said: I think you are mis-reading that. I take that to mean that NMCs are automatically on your protected list, meaning the team has relinquished the option by signing an NMC. After continued research I am pretty sure you are right. It makes way more sense that the NMCs are automatically on your protected list as you stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I would not be protecting the Twins. No team will risk taking them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckster19 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Boudrias said: I would not be protecting the Twins. No team will risk taking them. Canucks have no choice, they have to be protected because of their NMC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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