Odd. Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Quote Canucks fans on Twitter got something to chew on this morning, when an interesting quote surfaced from defenceman Andrey Pedan. Follow Igor Eronko @IgorEronko Andrei Pedan to Sport-Express: 'McCann was the only guy in#Canucks I couldn't get along. Sometimes he acted like he's the lonely star here' 6:42 AM - 31 May 2016 115115 Retweets 7878 likes Rumours of the Canucks’ displeasure with McCann’s attitude have been prevalent for a while now. Even everyone’s favourite hockey mom let it slip back in February. Follow Omar A @omarcanuck Theories on why Beth Bartkowski said everyone on the team is so nice "except that little 19 year old" (McCann)? #SixPack#Canucks 8:58 PM - 10 Feb 2016 22 Retweets 55 likes We’ll probably never know the degree to which McCann’s perceived attitude affected Jim Benning’s decision to trade him, but it’s looking more and more likely that it was a factor to some degree. Let’s forget for a moment that Andrey Pedan, a player with zero points and 13 games in the NHL, is in no position to be blasting former teammates in the media. His comments are telling. Cue the debate. How much should a player’s attitude or off-ice conduct affect a team’s decision to keep him? Is McCann – who turned 20-years-old today – a bad apple or just a kid who needs to mature? There’s no definitive answer to this question. And if you’re wrong in your assessment on the wrong player, the results can be devastating. That’s what happened when the Boston Bruins were looking to trade Tyler Seguin. Benning, who was Boston’s assistant GM at the time, was in favour of it. The Bruins have missed the playoffs in two of the last three years while Tyler Seguin has blossomed into an elite scorer, putting up 234 points in 223 games with the Dallas Stars. The Canucks moved on from Zack Kassian last season, which appears to be the correct decision. Of course if Kassian scores 20 goals next season, it won’t look so bright. The analytics crowd will tell you that attitude, personality, and character is a lot of hot air. While the media likes to oversell the affect of intangibles, some things exist that just can’t be measured. Things like team morale matters in any job, including pro sports. Just don’t oversell it. Give me 20 talented jerks over 20 talentless sweethearts to win today. Just be ready for 20 guys demanding a trade out of town tomorrow. Fedor Fedorov was such a jerk that Kevin Bieksa fought him when they were teammates with the Manitoba Moose in 2004. The Canucks waited too long to make a decision on Fedorov though and didn’t get much value back once they eventually dealt him to the New York Rangers in 2005. The Philadelphia Flyers got rid of Mike Richards and Jeff Carter in 2011 in part because of off-ice conduct. While Richards was a key member of the Kings’ championship team in 2012, he was a fourth liner in 2014 and dispatched to the AHL before his 30th birthday. Jeff Carter, on the other hand, is an elite player and a fixture on Team Canada. You win some, you lose some I guess. But lose the wrong ones and you’re in big trouble. Mike Gillis got rid of Cody Hodgson in part because he was a headache to deal with. Hodgson finished this year in the AHL, so I’d say moving on from him turned out to be the right decision. Is Jared McCann the next Cody Hodgson or Fedor Fedorov? Is he the next Jeff Carter or Tyler Seguin? As is usually the case, the answer probably lies somewhere in the middle. http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2016/05/canucks-pedan-mccann-comments/ I guess this talk has begun since the famous "It is what it is" line at the draft from McCann. There could be more to this trade then we originally thought. Good thing were getting a character guy back, who happens to be very good at defending as well. Comes to me as a bit of surprise, I thought McCann was one of those character guys. Looks like he was a bit of an @$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Gud trade. Looking gudder every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Pretty cocky for a guy who McCan't. win a face off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Meh This will allow the Gudbranson crowd something to use The McCaan crowd something to dispute And the rest of us something to shake our heads at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Doesn't really surprise me. He did have a chip on his shoulder ever since he was taken late in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Pedan is a pretty lucky guy if he only had one player he did not get along with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Very debatable, but if any of it is true then it probably helped JB's decision to move him. He'll be a good player in the league, and I'm still really happy with Guddy. An odd thing for Pedan to leak to the public though. I'm not sure Bart's mom's comment wasn't taken out of context, but it was quite a while ago so I don't really remember either. I'll continue to withhold any judgement on McCann until either more stuff is leaked, or nothing more is leaked. If nothing more comes of it then it was all likely nothing to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 3 minutes ago, Rick Blight said: Pedan is a pretty lucky guy if he only had one player he did not get along with. I think McCann is lucky Pedan didn't fold him in half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SamJamIam Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 3 minutes ago, Rick Blight said: Pedan is a pretty lucky guy if he only had one player he did not get along with. True. And from Pedan's words, it doesn't even sound like he viewed that as a character issue for either of them. Not being able to get along with someone hardly means McCann was a problem in the locker room. More likely, McCann was just a bit more of a loner, maybe a bit more intense which meant he wasn't everyone's bestie. Hardly means he'd hurt morale in the locker room or lacks dedication to the game. This from someone who is all in favour of the Real Gud trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRick Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Cody Hodgson 2.0! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashNBash Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Meh, water bridge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kungfudru Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 6 minutes ago, LaBamba said: I think McCann is lucky Pedan didn't fold him in half. I have a feeling he will eventually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kungfudru Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 dp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solinar Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Ever notice how everyone we trade lately has an attitude problem of some kind? And the guy we're bring in is always a good locker room guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Marchand Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 McCann from what I've seen of him has always had a confident attitude. For some, it can be interpreted as borderline arrogance. If that quote from Pedan isn't a mistake due to translation (I'm guessing he did the interview in Russian or Lithuanian), then I would bet that he was one of the guys who didn't take too kindly to it. In any event, it's impossible to know exactly how much of an issue it was with McCann's teammates. I'll reserve judgement for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Once a player is gone,at that point I no longer have to care. We got a 25 year old D man who fills a big hole on our team. I wish McCann all the best. Benning gave no hint that he wanted the kid gone and admitted it was a high price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck-lifer Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Kesler and Bertuzzi were not necessarily well liked by their team mates in the early years either and look how they turned out. McCann seemed pretty serious and possibly a bit of a loner, but always seemed to put his best effort on the ice. He also appeared to be ultra competitive and extra critical of his own performance. These are good signs for his future you would think. Unlike Cody.. He may just need some maturing and has an approximate chance of 78.5% to make it as a bonafide NHL'er:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 It is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Nazzy91 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Interesting, but as the article said Pedan isn't exactly in the position to be calling out former teammates. Doesn't reflect well on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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