Xbox Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/liberal-mp-mauril-belanger-pushes-for-change-in-anthem-wording-1.2924235 OTTAWA - The lyrics to O Canada will be a hot topic in Ottawa on Tuesday, even though the July 1 fireworks are still a month away. The House of Commons is debating an effort by dying Liberal Mauril Belanger to render the national anthem gender-neutral, by replacing the line in the English version "in all thy sons command" with "in all of us command." Belanger, a long-time Ottawa MP, has seen his health deteriorate since he learned last fall he has an incurable and fatal neurogenerative disease called amyotrophic lateral sclerosis - also known as ALS, or Lou Gehrig's disease. RELATED STORIES Tories block gender neutral 'O Canada' bill, dashing hopes of dying Liberal MP Ottawa MP trying again to change lyrics to O Canada O Canada is sexist, needs updating, MP says in new push for change He introduced his private member's bill in January using a voice generator that converts text into computerized speech, the first time one had been used in the Commons. The Conservatives thwarted an attempt to pass the bill quickly in early May, which had Liberals accusing their rivals of taking away the chance for Belanger to see his bill pass while he is still able to enjoy it. Conservative MP Erin O'Toole said he sympathizes with Belanger's situation, but is speaking against the bill because he does not believe Canada should change important parts of its heritage, even when they have fallen behind the times. "He's a friend and someone I admire greatly and seeing him struggle with ALS is tragic and a lot of us want him to be able to fulfil his duties as an MP, so we all want that go forward, but we also have to look at the substance of the bill," O'Toole said Monday. O'Toole, who said he joined the military at 18 years old, said the institutions, symbols and heraldry of Canada are very important to him and should not be changed lightly. "I think it's better for us to show the teaching issue here, on how the anthem is frozen in time and how we can learn from that, to show how far we've come," O'Toole said. But Belanger and others who believe the anthem should be changed have argued the amendment would in part restore the original English lyrics of O Canada, which referred to "thou dost in us command". The wording was changed to "all thy sons" in 1913, which Belanger said many believe was done in response to events leading up to World War I. "On the eve of the 150th anniversary of our federation, it is important that one of our most recognized and appreciated national symbols reflect the progress made by our country in terms of gender equality," Belanger told the Commons on May 6. "This progress was slow and hard-won at times and it marked our country's history. It should be celebrated in our national anthem." The previous Conservative government had proposed a gender-neutral anthem in the 2010 throne speech, but quickly backtracked in the face of strong public opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Actually, It's Liberal, and his name is spelled Jack A** Seriously, if this si what passes as matters of import on the hill, every MP needs their ridiculous wages docked until such time as they get their priorities in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heated Blue Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 3 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Actually, It's Liberal, and his name is spelled Jack A** Seriously, if this si what passes as matters of import on the hill, every MP needs their ridiculous wages docked until such time as they get their priorities in order. I couldn't agree more. What a waste of time and taxpayers money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsofthands Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 im sure most people dont care either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 The national anthem is an antiquated ritual that serves no purpose. Its ridiculous that people actually believe that if you remain seated while it is played you are disrespecting your country. Also this isn't anything new. The second line in the anthem doesn't apply to millions of Canadians, "Our home and native land". How many Canadians are actually native to this land? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glory_Days Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Exactly, most people could give two sh#*ts about all the posturing that is done on the hill, same with the whole elbowgate bs from couple weeks ago. How about actually addressing the problems in our nation and taking the time to debate and pass bills that will, you know, actually have an impact on people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayingBurke Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Okay, if they are going to open this nonsense, then they must also remove "God" from the anthem, because all the Atheist, Agnostics, and others would apprciate a secular and neutral anthem. You see where I am going with this. #Logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 7 minutes ago, Toews said: How many Canadians are actually native to this land? I am, I was born here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 6 minutes ago, Toews said: The national anthem is an antiquated ritual that serves no purpose. Its ridiculous that people actually believe that if you remain seated while it is played you are disrespecting your country. Also this isn't anything new. The second line in the anthem doesn't apply to millions of Canadians, "Our home and native land". How many Canadians are actually native to this land? Speak for you self. It's a sign of pride and respect for the people that fought and died for your freedom. I don't know about you but I'm proud to stand and sing our anthem, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 4 minutes ago, PlayingBurke said: Okay, if they are going to open this nonsense, then they must also remove "God" from the anthem, because all the Atheist, Agnostics, and others would apprciate a secular and neutral anthem. You see where I am going with this. #Logic. We should just have no anthem, so as to appease the nihilists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwags Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, thejazz97 said: We should just have no anthem, so as to appease the nihilists. Alternatively, we should all get our own personal anthems, to appease the narcissists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Speak for you self. It's a sign of pride and respect for the people that fought and died for your freedom. I don't know about you but I'm proud to stand and sing our anthem, I never claim to speak for anyone but myself. The people who fought and died did so for their country not for some song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayingBurke Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Here's an idea--let's stop getting offended over insignificant things. Does saying, "Sons" really disrespect, alter, influence in anyway the daily lives of Canadian women? No. Does saying God in our anthem alter, or influence people in their daily lives? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Maybe we just change our anthem to the theme song from Fresh Prince? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 5 minutes ago, Qwags said: Alternatively, we should all get our own personal anthems, to appease the narcissists. I'd love to have an anthem. Hahaha i must be a narcissist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Neilsons Towel Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 15 minutes ago, Toews said: The national anthem is an antiquated ritual that serves no purpose. Its ridiculous that people actually believe that if you remain seated while it is played you are disrespecting your country. Also this isn't anything new. The second line in the anthem doesn't apply to millions of Canadians, "Our home and native land". How many Canadians are actually native to this land? I could not disagree with you more. The National Anthem is a sign of pride and respect for your country, and the people that fought and died for our freedom. I'm proud to stand and sing our anthem, and anyone who stays seated, talks through it, or leaves their hat on, is absolutely disrespecting their country and the men and women that have fought and died to protect it. Those people can kiss my a**. And by the way, I was born here, and so were the last 4 generations of my family. This absolutely is "my home and native land". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 11 minutes ago, thejazz97 said: We should just have no anthem, so as to appease the nihilists. Not seeing the point of an anthem does not make one a nihilist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwags Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 4 minutes ago, PlayingBurke said: Here's an idea--let's stop getting offended over insignificant things. Does saying, "Sons" really disrespect, alter, influence in anyway the daily lives of Canadian women? No. Does saying God in our anthem alter, or influence people in their daily lives? No. People will always get offended over insignificant things. It's basically second nature to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbox Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share Posted June 1, 2016 29 minutes ago, drsofthands said: im sure most people dont care either way I think it's absolutely ridiculous. Here's an idea--let's stop getting offended over insignificant things. Does saying, "Sons" really disrespect, alter, influence in anyway the daily lives of Canadian women? No. Does saying God in our anthem alter, or influence people in their daily lives? No. It's the liberals were talking about. They get offended if you even look at them the wrong way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realtor Rod Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 This is so unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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