Freeridebc Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Just alone with acquiring Guddy, how does this size us up next season? We pretty much have every weight class covered now. Curious to see what ya'll think now. Virt/Tryamkin will be in their second year. We all now Jake isn't afraid to mix it up, alone side Dors, but is this a part of the NA game that could find it's way into Tryamkin's game. I've seen I believe one fight of his. Guddy is obviously good to go, along with Pedan. I feel like we've got our KB3 back, which we were lacking, in a sense. Cheers - Free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Type R Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 From where I'm standing, we have 4 defenders in the 6'4 and up class, and 2 of them for sure aren't afraid to mix it up. Virtanen is scrappy as well, and he's only going to get bigger. Dorsett (IMO) is starting to show signs of wear and tear, so I'm not expecting as much rough stuff as last year from him. It will be interesting to see who is picked up in FA, and if they fit into Bennings plans as a rough and tough team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 I think our toughness is pretty decent. Much better than prior. Having guys on the ice like Gudbranson and Tryamkin will make an enormous difference in that regard. If we make it to the playoffs like I expect, we finally have enough guys to wear down the opponents. Wouldn't be surprised to see Virtanen at least start the year in Utica. He needs to have a great camp showing to start with the big team I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRypien37 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Pedan Gudbranson Tryamkin Sbisa Dorsett Virtanen Not a bad start, still would like to add more grit in the top 9. Brouwer or Lucic would be the best options at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 With Gudbranson..Tryamkin. Pedan and Dorsett we are going to be a hard team to play against which makes me pretty happy..something we have been missing for a few seasons now...I still would like to see a bit more toughness on the forward line...if that happens we could be one of the toughest teams in the west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 I don't know, looking at the Pens right now. Not a tough team at all. I guess if you are fast enough to run away toughness doesn't effect your game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, LaBamba said: I don't know, looking at the Pens right now. Not a tough team at all. I guess if you are fast enough to run away toughness doesn't effect your game. Oh no! Now we have to trade Tryamkin! Desi? I kid. I think we're getting a pretty good balance of toughness and speed actually, even one more gritty forward and we'll be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 This team was being pushed around a fair bit last season. That was obvious. Once Tryamkin became a fixture on the back end, it changed things. Adding Gudbrandson was a great move as well to the same degree. Benning realizes that adding some larger, tougher players allows the more skill based players the time and space to get their business done. In my opinion, they work well hand in hand. It levels the playing rink, so to speak. That being said, I certainly hope that Baertschi takes another step, and that Rodin makes an immediate impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 10 minutes ago, LaBamba said: I don't know, looking at the Pens right now. Not a tough team at all. I guess if you are fast enough to run away toughness doesn't effect your game. We have fast guys too and none of our big guys are slow. We're also not expected to be in the SC final next year either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 26 minutes ago, LaBamba said: I don't know, looking at the Pens right now. Not a tough team at all. I guess if you are fast enough to run away toughness doesn't effect your game. If San Jose ups the hits and connects on a few choice ones, that can also play a part in how the Penguins play. Although, the Sharks don't have a lot of really intimidating players. And Pittsburgh has Malkin, who isn't adverse to physical play, and the occasional questionable hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 41 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: If San Jose ups the hits and connects on a few choice ones, that can also play a part in how the Penguins play. Although, the Sharks don't have a lot of really intimidating players. And Pittsburgh has Malkin, who isn't adverse to physical play, and the occasional questionable hit. Actually if he ISN'T averse, that might be the inverse of the adverse, as it were... :^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Actually if he ISN'T averse, that might be the inverse of the adverse, as it were... :^) So to speak, at this juncture, within reason.......indubitably! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Why does everyone pencil in Tryamkin as 'tough'? He is big, yes. But until he drops the gloves in the NHL I don't see how he gets any rating on the 'tough' scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 4 minutes ago, Shift-4 said: Why does everyone pencil in Tryamkin as 'tough'? He is big, yes. But until he drops the gloves in the NHL I don't see how he gets any rating on the 'tough' scale. That little Tas Devil(Shaw) sure settled down after Tree-man(timberrrr!) sorta' 'fell' on him. These things will never occur with Subban-sized D, battling in front of our net. Hope he gets tougher, to match his size. Really like the big D we're adding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabinessence Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 8 hours ago, Freeridebc said: Just alone with acquiring Guddy, how does this size us up next season? We pretty much have every weight class covered now. Curious to see what ya'll think now. Virt/Tryamkin will be in their second year. We all now Jake isn't afraid to mix it up, alone side Dors, but is this a part of the NA game that could find it's way into Tryamkin's game. I've seen I believe one fight of his. Guddy is obviously good to go, along with Pedan. I feel like we've got our KB3 back, which we were lacking, in a sense. Cheers - Free Does his nickname really have to be Guddy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 9 minutes ago, Shift-4 said: Why does everyone pencil in Tryamkin as 'tough'? He is big, yes. But until he drops the gloves in the NHL I don't see how he gets any rating on the 'tough' scale. The same could be said of Virtanen as well, but I think people are impressed with his hits. Fighting isn't the only way to show toughness. Physical stength to knock people down and scrap for the puck along the boards is a certain kind of toughness. I think a lot of opposition players will weary of Tryamkin when their hanging around in front of the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JibberishJones Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Great points, Gudbranson adds to the overall team toughness a lot, he is known for sticking up for his teammates as well which I love - the potential for a player like this to impact a game or playoff series in a physical sense is huge. I think Virtanen will develop his physical game, there is a time and a place for physicality when in the top 9, even more so in top 6, and he will figure it out just fine I think. The two Russians are still big question marks for me, sure they can be physical and have big bodies, but I think I need to see more from both of them to make a solid judgement call - excited to see what Tryamkin can do after a full North American offseason program -- can he put it all together? We will see. Pedan is a huge question mark for me, didn't see much from him last year. We are developing a nice combination of size and speed, it's fun to watch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 1 minute ago, higgyfan said: The same could be said of Virtanen as well, but I think people are impressed with his hits. Fighting isn't the only way to show toughness. Physical stength to knock people down and scrap for the puck along the boards is a certain kind of toughness. I think a lot of opposition players will weary of Tryamkin when their hanging around in front of the net. Agreed. He might just have to skate towards a scrum to have to settle things down. But I also don't see him dropping the gloves with Reaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JibberishJones Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, Shift-4 said: Agreed. He might just have to skate towards a scrum to have to settle things down. But I also don't see him dropping the gloves with Reaves. I don't want him dropping the gloves with Reaves, win or lose, thats a win for Reaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, JibberishJones said: I don't want him dropping the gloves with Reaves, win or lose, thats a win for Reaves. Yes, but that is being smart....not tough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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