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1 hour ago, Hutton Wink said:

Last year around this time he went from meh to suddenly a legit prospect, which is why both the Comets and Canucks re-signed him midseason.  He looked good in his callup on the eastern road trip.  The key is that he plays the way they want, in particular aggressively with grit and a high motor -- the things Grenier either lacks or doesn't show consistently. 

I'll take your word for it. I really don't recall Zalewski impressing me. And plenty on here seem to think I'm easily impressed. :mellow:

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3 hours ago, alfstonker said:

I'll take your word for it. I really don't recall Zalewski impressing me. And plenty on here seem to think I'm easily impressed. :mellow:

He only got into three games with the Canucks, but definitely showed better than he had from his initial signing of 2014.  As I recall, @UticaHockey called him one of if not their best player down the stretch last season.

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6 hours ago, alfstonker said:

It seems to me no matter who our coach is there are always people on here who think they know better. Jake played his best hockey on the RW after the JWC last season - that will do for me.

I don't know where you could have gotten that from. The only thing I suggested was to try him on the left wing since a right shot coming off the left side gives you a better shooting angle. Its just a passing observation, and it isn't any different than you making observations on Grenier and Zalewski. Voicing a minor opinion like that doesn't mean you're a coach or a scout, and it would be pretty boring around here if nobody could do that without being accused of it.

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7 hours ago, alfstonker said:

It seems to me no matter who our coach is there are always people on here who think they know better. Jake played his best hockey on the RW after the JWC last season - that will do for me.

I am not one of those people. But I do remember that in his 45 goal draft year he played mainly on the left side. And when I picture him powering to the net and getting a good shot on goal, I see/remember him usually doing it from the left side. I wouldn't mind seeing him tried there again. It wouldn't be a complete shock if that were to rekindle his offence.

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4 hours ago, alfstonker said:

I'll take your word for it. I really don't recall Zalewski impressing me. And plenty on here seem to think I'm easily impressed. :mellow:

Was far harder to play against than Grenier. Wouldn't have minded him at all as 13th forward this year  but we went with the more veteran Skille...which works too.

 

2 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said:

I am not one of those people. But I do remember that in his 45 goal draft year he played mainly on the left side. And when I picture him powering to the net and getting a good shot on goal, I see/remember him usually doing it from the left side. I wouldn't mind seeing him tried there again. It wouldn't be a complete shock if that were to rekindle his offence.

I'm in the 'like to see him on LW boat' as well.

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3 hours ago, Hutton Wink said:

He only got into three games with the Canucks, but definitely showed better than he had from his initial signing of 2014.  As I recall, @UticaHockey called him one of if not their best player down the stretch last season.

Mike Zalewski was having a great season last year to the point where he earned another NHL contact during the year while he was playing on an AHL contract. Unfortunately after signing that NHL contract he suffered a concussion from a high open ice hit and missed an extended period of time down the stretch when Benning was calling multiple guys up for a look after the trade deadline. Z eventually did get a call up at the end of the year for a couple games but didn't look the same.

 

He didn't look the same to start this season either and then missed multiple weeks again with an "upper body injury" after being checked into the net. He has only recently started looking like himself again and driving the play with his skating.

 

One confirmed concussion and a suspected second one really set back his development.

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Thatcher Demko with a special set of gear that will go with special jerseys this Saturday.  Half of the jerseys will be raffled off and the other half plus Demko's gear will be auctioned off after the game with the proceeds going to the Thea Bowman House charity in Utica.  

 

Demko's gear and the new jerseys are sick looking.

 

 

http://www.uticacomets.com/news/detail/new-york-state-tool-presents-save-of-the-day-night-to-benefit-the-thea-bowman-house

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3 hours ago, UticaHockey said:

Thatcher Demko with a special set of gear that will go with special jerseys this Saturday.  Half of the jerseys will be raffled off and the other half plus Demko's gear will be auctioned off after the game with the proceeds going to the Thea Bowman House charity in Utica.  

 

Demko's gear and the new jerseys are sick looking.

 

 

http://www.uticacomets.com/news/detail/new-york-state-tool-presents-save-of-the-day-night-to-benefit-the-thea-bowman-house

Was going to post this. In addition to that and the sell out streak, Bachman won AHL Player of the Week.

 

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15 hours ago, Hutton Wink said:

He only got into three games with the Canucks, but definitely showed better than he had from his initial signing of 2014.  As I recall, @UticaHockey called him one of if not their best player down the stretch last season.

I know he did maybe that is why I expected better. Some players from the AHL either because they are trying too hard or because they are afraid of making a mistake play nothing like their A form in the NHL. Archie and Schroeder come to mind. I do agree though that 3 games is not much of a sample.

 

I suppose that is why the A guys we have impress me. They hold nothing back, play high tempo and high energy every night. They are often one of our best lines and seem to roll the other team back into their own end - if only Gaunce could get a points streak going.

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14 hours ago, stonecoldstevebernier said:

I don't know where you could have gotten that from. The only thing I suggested was to try him on the left wing since a right shot coming off the left side gives you a better shooting angle. Its just a passing observation, and it isn't any different than you making observations on Grenier and Zalewski. Voicing a minor opinion like that doesn't mean you're a coach or a scout, and it would be pretty boring around here if nobody could do that without being accused of it.

Agreed but do you really think stuff like that doesn't occur to the coaches. They know where the spot is for him in Vancouver and they are trying to help him achieve it - they also know he had success and looked good last season in that spot. - so it's not really rocket science.

 

You are suggesting that he be put on a wing where there is likely no place for him, and what happens when the VC coach then shifts him onto the RW and he slumps?

It's no different from Gaunce imo where Green coached him how to play on the wing because that was where he was destined to be needed in Vancouver, not at centre - not for the foreseeable future anyway.

 

And no it's not really the same as my observation on Grenier and Zalewski. I was commenting on something that had already imo happened. i.e. past performance in Vancouver.

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14 hours ago, WeneedLumme said:

I am not one of those people. But I do remember that in his 45 goal draft year he played mainly on the left side. And when I picture him powering to the net and getting a good shot on goal, I see/remember him usually doing it from the left side. I wouldn't mind seeing him tried there again. It wouldn't be a complete shock if that were to rekindle his offence.

Funny, I recall when he hit the big guy up and over the boards he was on the RW.

 

 

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3 hours ago, alfstonker said:

 

 

The first one on this clip, yes. But if you keep on watching, the second hit on this clip, where he does the same thing, it's on the left side, as are many of the other hits. He obviously can throw hits on either side. But the point is to try to rekindle his scoring, and like many snipers, he seems to score better from his off wing where he has the better angle.

 

I would suggest that the reason a coach plays someone like Jake who is comfortable playing either side, on one side or the other, is mainly due to the team's relative depth on each wing. And that can change very quickly. One trade (or an expansion draft) and suddenly you are deeper on the other side.

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4 hours ago, WeneedLumme said:

The first one on this clip, yes. But if you keep on watching, the second hit on this clip, where he does the same thing, it's on the left side, as are many of the other hits. He obviously can throw hits on either side. But the point is to try to rekindle his scoring, and like many snipers, he seems to score better from his off wing where he has the better angle.

 

I would suggest that the reason a coach plays someone like Jake who is comfortable playing either side, on one side or the other, is mainly due to the team's relative depth on each wing. And that can change very quickly. One trade (or an expansion draft) and suddenly you are deeper on the other side.

No they are not. I saw only one from the left and it looked like he crossed over. Anyway I've spent enough time on this, he's on the right and that's where the club want him to be.:lol:

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7 hours ago, alfstonker said:

Funny, I recall when he hit the big guy up and over the boards he was on the RW.

 

 

You recall one hit, so to you that means he performs better on the right side?

we should be trying to get him to score not become a forth line grinder, and i think he is a bigger threat on his off wing, especially as he is more of a shooter than a great set up man.

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1 minute ago, Conscience said:

You recall one hit, so to you that means he performs better on the right side?

we should be trying to get him to score not become a forth line grinder, and i think he is a bigger threat on his off wing, especially as he is more of a shooter than a great set up man.

I recalled one hit because I don't follow Junior hockey and the hit was posted on here - I based my opinion on last season. However the video is quite clear. Thanks for coming out.

I actually don't give a ff where he plays as long as he is back to how he was last season after the WJC.  - Fit, checking, hitting and scoring points.

 

Take your gripe up with Green if it bothers you that much.

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I thought Virtanen's hitting game tapered last year. He started strong this season and then quickly tapered off again. It made me wonder if his shoulder has a longer term problem than what was made public. It does not appear that he has played more physical in Utica either. Perhaps our Utica fans can comment?

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7 minutes ago, alfstonker said:

I recalled one hit because I don't follow Junior hockey and the hit was posted on here - I based my opinion on last season. However the video is quite clear. Thanks for coming out.

I actually don't give a ff where he plays as long as he is back to how he was last season after the WJC.  - Fit, checking, hitting and scoring points.

 

Take your gripe up with Green if it bothers you that much.

Will do

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2 hours ago, alfstonker said:

No they are not. I saw only one from the left and it looked like he crossed over. Anyway I've spent enough time on this, he's on the right and that's where the club want him to be.:lol:

I saw half a dozen hits on the left side of the ice. In the clip that YOU provided. And you claim that you only saw one. One of us is lying. And it's not me. Yeah, I guess you've spent enough time on this, when the evidence that you provided doesn't back you up, so you need to lie to support an insupportable position.

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