Does Benning have the guts (or the dance partner) too pull off a blockbuster?

[Bandwagon38]

Hansen aside(late 1st.....maybe) what player could fetch us the biggest return and not completely deplete our team?

We just traded for Gudbranson and we have Hamhuis on a line willing to come back at a good price.  That leaves us with Hamhuis, Gudbranson and Tryamkin as stay at home defensman so dare I ask, should Benning throw Tanev's name into the mix?  I love Tanev, but he is our one asset that is replaceable and could fetch us an asset and a high 1st rounder!  That gets us our 5th pick and one of the top defenseman in this draft.  I would have a hard time seeing Tanev traded but his stock is soaring and I think there would be several suitors willing to give up their 1st.  Tanev is awesome but we would lose no offense and I think Hammer could take over top pair duties while Chychurn, Juolevi or Sergachev mature.

 

 

[blackpluto96]

Benning has already proven over and over again, he has the guts to pull off trades, blockbuster or not, good or bad. Your topic and post contents are two different things.

 

Hammer is not guaranteed to return and even if he does, at 33 he's not replacing Tanev, being also LH.  Tryamkin is way too young and raw to make me feel comfortable trading Tanev right now.

[SaintPatrick33]

Benning has shown the gusto and "balls" necessary to make deals.... I do not understand your point Mr. Bandwagon, JB has traded fan favorites like Lack, Shinkaruk, Kesler, Bonino, McCann etc etc, and he has stood up for himself at the townhall meetings and been honest and forthright with those jerks on the radio.....

 

I love the guy and he proves me time and time again that he isnt afraid, which is a departure from Gillis. The only issue now is when can our club get back to their winning ways? I think he is on the right track, in Linden and JB I trust! 

 

 

[khay]

Tanev is replaceable? By who? Hamhuis? I don't think so. 

 

If we are trading Tanev for high first round pick, then we are leaving a gaping hole on the right hand side. We finally filled a hole on RD with Gudbranson, a potential stable, a physical partner for Hutton to continue his growth. We get rid of Tanev, then who plays with Edler? Gudbranson? Then, who plays with Hutton? Sbisa? I hope not. 

 

If the goal is to lose games so that we get a high draft pick (in other words, tank), then I get what you are saying but if the goal is to make the playoffs, then stability on D is key to making the playoffs. Tanev brings stability.

 

 

[insomniac604]

35 minutes ago, Bandwagon38 said:

Hansen aside(late 1st.....maybe) what player could fetch us the biggest return and not completely deplete our team?

We just traded for Gudbranson and we have Hamhuis on a line willing to come back at a good price.  That leaves us with Hamhuis, Gudbranson and Tryamkin as stay at home defensman so dare I ask, should Benning throw Tanev's name into the mix?  I love Tanev, but he is our one asset that is replaceable and could fetch us an asset and a high 1st rounder!  That gets us our 5th pick and one of the top defenseman in this draft.  I would have a hard time seeing Tanev traded but his stock is soaring and I think there would be several suitors willing to give up their 1st.  Tanev is awesome but we would lose no offense and I think Hammer could take over top pair duties while Chychurn, Juolevi or Sergachev mature.

 

 

Alright. First of all, tell me who Tanev is replaceable with? Nobody currently on our roster. We balked at giving him for Harmonic. Give me an example of who would take his spot?

 

Tanev getting us a high 1st rounder.. uh, dude, we already have one. #5 in this draft is hella-good. I don't see any top 3 teams willing to swap Tanev + 5th for theirs. Not even the Oilers because they need guys to play on the left.

 

Before suggesting these things you need to consider the side they play on. Tanev is on the right. Hamhuis is on the left. Our other lefties include Edler, Hutton and Sbisa. None of those three have done well on their offside, so moving them is not a possibility. Where do you intend to stick Hamhuis?

 

 

[Positive Canuck]

18 minutes ago, SaintPatrick33 said:

Benning has shown the gusto and "balls" necessary to make deals.... I do not understand your point Mr. Bandwagon, JB has traded fan favorites like Lack, Shinkaruk, Kesler, Bonino, McCann etc etc, and he has stood up for himself at the townhall meetings and been honest and forthright with those jerks on the radio.....

 

I love the guy and he proves me time and time again that he isnt afraid, which is a departure from Gillis. The only issue now is when can our club get back to their winning ways? I think he is on the right track, in Linden and JB I trust! 

 

 

#InBenningWeTrust

[Top_Shelf]

Benning has already demonstrated that he has the guts and balls  to make a deal with a dance partner whether it was good or bad,  or whether or not it was a blockbuster . So yes, I believe he does indeed have the guts. 

[BI3KSA-]

Yeah lets trade our young top pairing, defensively elite defensemen, for a defensemen thats ceiling is likely similar to what Tanev already is. Get er done JB!

[oldnews]

Is this the 2.0 V of does Gillis have the guts to make a bold move?

 

 

[Honky Cat]

I haven't really been keeping count,but JB must be one of the more active GM's in the league..I thought the Gudbranson trade was a very ballsy move..I personally like the trade,but it also has the chance to backfire as well.

[By sea and land]

Personally I wouldn't be shopping Tanev BUT I'd certainly listen if teams called.  What if Edmonton dangled Hall or another team dangled something similar (relatively young skillful forward or package)

 

Tanev is my favorite Dman on the team but he's replaceable.

 

Oh wait, Stetcher just said he's this years Ben Hutton.  Done!

 

[Bandwagon38]

Ok, just relax a little bit.  Take a deep breath.  I like what Benning and Linden are doing.  Are we going to the finals next year?..no  The year after?...no  The year after?..potentially starting to make a move in that direction.  If we can turn Tanev into a top 10 pick plus a prospect, are you all suggesting that the 3 top dmen in this draft, named above, can't mature enough to be impact players both defensively and offensively?  (2 if not all three are thought to be top paring dmen.)  The biggest glaring problem we have right now, no defensive scoring.

 

Edm for their 4th and a prospect

trade our 5th down to 7-10 plus a prospect or later pick

Draft Dubois, Tkachuk, or the Fin

Draft Joulevi, or Chychun

plus a prospect and a later draft

 

In 3-4 years we are better without Tanev.  Maybe not next year but just wait a couple.

 

[Bandwagon38]

 

33 minutes ago, insomniac604 said:

Alright. First of all, tell me who Tanev is replaceable with? Nobody currently on our roster. We balked at giving him for Harmonic. Give me an example of who would take his spot?

 

Tanev getting us a high 1st rounder.. uh, dude, we already have one. #5 in this draft is hella-good. I don't see any top 3 teams willing to swap Tanev + 5th for theirs. Not even the Oilers because they need guys to play on the left.

 

Before suggesting these things you need to consider the side they play on. Tanev is on the right. Hamhuis is on the left. Our other lefties include Edler, Hutton and Sbisa. None of those three have done well on their offside, so moving them is not a possibility. Where do you intend to stick Hamhuis?

 

 

Uh dude, if you think Tanev only moves us up in the draft two spots then is he really a top pairing defenseman?  I think we can ADD a top ten pick by trading him allowing us to add an elite forward AND an elite defensman.

 

[SaintPatrick33]

1 minute ago, Bandwagon38 said:

Ok, just relax a little bit.  Take a deep breath.  I like what Benning and Linden are doing.  Are we going to the finals next year?..no  The year after?...no  The year after?..potentially starting to make a move in that direction.  If we can turn Tanev into a top 10 pick plus a prospect, are you all suggesting that the 3 top dmen in this draft, named above, can't mature enough to be impact players both defensively and offensively?  (2 if not all three are thought to be top paring dmen.)  The biggest glaring problem we have right now, no defensive scoring.

 

Edm for their 4th and a prospect

trade our 5th down to 7-10 plus a prospect or later pick

Draft Dubois, Tkachuk, or the Fin

Draft Joulevi, or Chychun

plus a prospect and a later draft

 

In 3-4 years we are better without Tanev.  Maybe not next year but just wait a couple.

 

 

My response would be then to trade Edler, he must have high value around the league. leave Tanev on our team, he has proven he can take big hits and make it happen in playoff hockey, unlike Edler. Yes, that NTC has come up in every trade edler thread, but we could extract more value for an inconsistent d-man than trading our most reliable defender in Tanev.

 

Personally , believe Tanev to be underrated offensively, he has the ability to get the puck out of the zone safely whilst taking a hit, and he also does not turn the puck over as much as Edler, nor back into your own goalie during an offensive rush by the opposing team. The kid has toughness and heart, and that is what JB is going for! These stats do not show up in point totals, it usually takes 3 or more passes out of your own Z done to create a goal. 

[cuporbust]

We have a young enough lineup. We need guys like Hansen around 

[DeNiro]

He has the guts, doesn't mean we should be making a blockbuster right now though.

 

We can't even spare the young assets necessary to make a blockbuster anyways.

 

Unless it's a deal where we're sending Edler to Montreal for a young defenseman and their 9th. I highly doubt a deal like that goes down though.

[insomniac604]

2 minutes ago, Bandwagon38 said:

 

Uh dude, if you think Tanev only moves us up in the draft two spots then is he really a top pairing defenseman?  I think we can ADD a top ten pick by trading him allowing us to add an elite forward AND an elite defensman.

 

The conversation was Tanev "getting us a high 1st rounder". We have 5th. So there are only 9 places to go. Trading Tanev for anything below our pick is ridic. And you saying that he "only moves us two spots" seems ridiculous in your mind.

 

So what do you think, then? That 5th & Tanev will get us 1st?

 

lol

 

Maybe he'd get us 2/3 (because Oilers need RHD)

Do we trade a top forward and a top 2 steady Dman for Laine or  Puljujarvi?

I do not think that the two we give would be worth the one we get.

[Bandwagon38]

53 minutes ago, SaintPatrick33 said:

Benning has shown the gusto and "balls" necessary to make deals.... I do not understand your point Mr. Bandwagon, JB has traded fan favorites like Lack, Shinkaruk, Kesler, Bonino, McCann etc etc, and he has stood up for himself at the townhall meetings and been honest and forthright with those jerks on the radio.....

 

I love the guy and he proves me time and time again that he isnt afraid, which is a departure from Gillis. The only issue now is when can our club get back to their winning ways? I think he is on the right track, in Linden and JB I trust!

I did not say fan favorite, I said blockbuster.

Lack - fan favorite but the right choice, Markstrom is better

Shinkaruk - prospect

Kesler - cancer

Bonino - not a good fit

McCann - out of the park trade for Gudbranson

None of these are blockbusters, they are just roster moves.  Trading a young top pairing defenseman is a blockbuster and would take guts!

[Drakrami]

1 hour ago, Bandwagon38 said:

Hansen aside(late 1st.....maybe) what player could fetch us the biggest return and not completely deplete our team?

We just traded for Gudbranson and we have Hamhuis on a line willing to come back at a good price.  That leaves us with Hamhuis, Gudbranson and Tryamkin as stay at home defensman so dare I ask, should Benning throw Tanev's name into the mix?  I love Tanev, but he is our one asset that is replaceable and could fetch us an asset and a high 1st rounder!  That gets us our 5th pick and one of the top defenseman in this draft.  I would have a hard time seeing Tanev traded but his stock is soaring and I think there would be several suitors willing to give up their 1st.  Tanev is awesome but we would lose no offense and I think Hammer could take over top pair duties while Chychurn, Juolevi or Sergachev mature.

 

 

1. Hamhuis is not coming back. How many defensemen do we have? 

 

2. Even if he is, he wont be coming back at a good price. We're looking at 3.5mil+ and that's horrible for a #5-6 dman. 

[Ossi Vaananen]

I got torched a while back for suggesting McCann and the 5th could be in play. I expect to be right on both. 

 

Benning knows what he has to do to keep his job, that being ice a competitive team or create a more exciting product. He accomplished the latter this past year by getting exciting younger players into the lineup. Now it's a matter of selling tickets to a fairweather fanbase. He's expedited the rebuild by acquiring guys like Granlund, Etem, and Gudbranson that are further along in their development than the respective first rounders that were traded for them.

 

I like and support what he's doing, which is why I think he has another trade in him before free agency. It could be minor like taking on a bad contract for some picks or depth, but I'm thinking that 5th gets moved back a bit. I'd also consider free agency as being a blockbuster, as Benning will surely have cash to work with.