khay Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 1 hour ago, YOWnuxFAN said: Gonna sound off a little... I don't mind the pick but it leaves me confused as to the direction the team is going in. D's typically take a while to develop so it will be a few years until he's ready to contribute. If the plan is to tank hard between now and then to get elite scoring talent it makes sense. But if that were the plan I doubt they would've done the Gubranson trade nor be pursuing Lucic/Erikson. It feels like they're trying to ensure we're a fringe playoff team for the next decade This year's pick was going to be for the future anyways. Even if we got PLD, he would probably make the team in two years. Juolevi will be ready in about 3 years. Even Tkachuk would require 2 years of development before he can join the team. Think this way. Let's say, three years later we make the playoffs and our defence is, Edler-Tanev Hutton-Gudbranson Juolevi-Tryamkin The only concern that I have with not being able to pick Dubois is that we didn't get to replace McCann. The top center forward prospect in our system is now... Cole Cassels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Just now, NEON.KNEE said: https://www.nhl.com/news/penguins-maatta-to-have-surgery-for-thyroid-tumor/c-736356 It's a thyroid tumour...benign...I literally had the same thing when I was 11, the Doctor's called it cat scratch fever at the time, not cancer...but yea, the worst symptom I got was a fever for a few days. It can effect your energy levels though can't it? As an athlete that would affect you quite a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanBeef Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Really liking the way this kid conducts himself in interviews. Liking this more and more as time goes on. Hopefully he'll be a big part of the team going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numb3r 16 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Can't wait till camp, I think there's is a good chance he will get a call up and a chance to play if he goes to the AHL this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honky Cat Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 As much as Juolevi was my third choice ...I can see the reasoning behind it....You cannot really trade for top D,the Canucks would have been in tough trying to acquire this kind of player without drafting one (and its pretty difficult to win championships without them).....Benning is building a team,and needs have to be addressed ...The Oilers are a prime example of keeping on drafting BPA forwards,and neglecting D. The big issue now will be who's going to score.?..Boeser cannot get here soon enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Yeah...this one was a little tough. On one hand, we now have to play Tkachuk 6 times a damn year. I hated watching Vancouver play his dad in the late 90s and early 2000s. This will be no different. On the other hand, we got to draft a dman the likes of which we have never had and we get to have him for at least 10 years with the organization (barring a trade). At the end of the day, we have a decent amount of wingers in the organization and Virtanen can deal with Tkachuk. It's a smart pick at 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Canucks TV reporter Joey Kenward spoke with Canucks 2016 1st round draft pick Olli Juolevi and discussed the young man's excitement to come out west. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 2 hours ago, TheRussianRocket. said: *NOTE:* Juoelvi is on loan from his Finnish team. So if he decides, he can go straight to the AHL after training camp. ...neat little bonus in getting him. Can play overseas, AHL if they think he's ready, or back to jrs. So many things to like about that tidbit. He has nothing more to prove in Juniors any more as he pretty much has won every team championship that he can win. So he needs to be moved up in order to continue his development. But moving a D-man from juniors to the NHL too early is dangerous because unlike with the forwards where your mistake usually does not result in a shift in the score, with a D-man, your mistakes are so obvious. So getting the option to send him directly to the AHL to allow him to bulk up and understand the intricacies of the position may allow him to be a top-line defender for the Canucks in as early as 2 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 It will be fitting if Juolevi becomes an elite D and is in the NHL at 19, when the Oilers were trying so hard to acquire a puck mover with their 4th overall pick. Doesn't matter how many scorers you add if you can't keep the puck out of your net. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, DeNiro said: It can effect your energy levels though can't it? As an athlete that would affect you quite a bit. Benign tumours are worse than they sound (probably because of the word tumour). Had one too but it was just mildly uncomfortable at worst. He'll have his surgery and recover swiftly just like most other minor injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex425 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Noseforthenet said: Yeah...this one was a little tough. On one hand, we now have to play Tkachuk 6 times a damn year. I hated watching Vancouver play his dad in the late 90s and early 2000s. This will be no different. On the other hand, we got to draft a dman the likes of which we have never had and we get to have him for at least 10 years with the organization (barring a trade). At the end of the day, we have a decent amount of wingers in the organization and Virtanen can deal with Tkachuk. It's a smart pick at 5. Because of Las Vegas, we most likely play them 4 times or 5 times a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 A guy who can move the puck also makes the forwards so much better. Remember how a guy like Salo used to make the great first pass out of the D zone...when Salo was out of the lineup their record hovered around .500 when he was in the lineup they were racking up wins like crazy and making a march to the cup...this was a smart move even though it wasnt as 'sexy' as picking a forward. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEON.KNEE Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, DeNiro said: It can effect your energy levels though can't it? As an athlete that would affect you quite a bit. In my case I had the tumour removed at such a young age that I just have always lived with it. There is no doubt that having some of your thyroid removed would affect your body chemistry, to what extent I have no idea, but I believe a pro athlete with his team of high end doctors could combat any minor change in physiology with treatment or medicine. I am happy with the pick, I mean Julovi is THE BEST D-MAN in the draft... Time will tell on this one, but in reality all of the guys in the top 6 this year were good picks...The younger Nylander looks better than William IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Luongo Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) Benning did the best thing here after the top 4 were gone. Great pick I'm excited! Our defense has me more intrigued than I've ever been having all these good young up and coming dmen who all have a lot to offer. Boeser, Virtanen, Horvat and all the other forwards we have moving forward are going to need a swift moving/passing dman who can pressure and skate and do all the good things this kid does. Edited June 25, 2016 by The Big Luongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GettinGuddyWithIt Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 9 minutes ago, khay said: This year's pick was going to be for the future anyways. Even if we got PLD, he would probably make the team in two years. Juolevi will be ready in about 3 years. Even Tkachuk would require 2 years of development before he can join the team. Think this way. Let's say, three years later we make the playoffs and our defence is, Edler-Tanev Hutton-Gudbranson Juolevi-Tryamkin The only concern that I have with not being able to pick Dubois is that we didn't get to replace McCann. The top center forward prospect in our system is now... Cole Cassels? I think you forgot about Bo Horvat, you know the guy that had more points in his second season than both Harnrik and Kesler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSacamano Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Juolevi and Gudbranson could be our Niedermayer and Stevens 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Just now, SunnyHours said: Juolevi and Gudbranson could be our Niedermayer and Stevens That's an excellent comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Red Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 24 minutes ago, NEON.KNEE said: Olli Maata isn't a 50 point a year guy...I just found Camel Toe's comparison to be about the most lazy a person could have made. I think Julovi was the best D available...and with how the draft played out I can't really fault Benning... But to say that Julovi looks like Maata is just pure laziness...because they look almost identical in appearance, height and size but Julovi better be a bigger producer at the NHL level to justify passing up on some of the offensive pieces available So are we talking OEL? Salo? thats all I have atm for finnish lineage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numb3r 16 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 11 minutes ago, khay said: This year's pick was going to be for the future anyways. Even if we got PLD, he would probably make the team in two years. Juolevi will be ready in about 3 years. Even Tkachuk would require 2 years of development before he can join the team. Think this way. Let's say, three years later we make the playoffs and our defence is, Edler-Tanev Hutton-Gudbranson Juolevi-Tryamkin The only concern that I have with not being able to pick Dubois is that we didn't get to replace McCann. The top center forward prospect in our system is now... Cole Cassels? In 3 years I doubt edler would be on the team, if he is then he probably wouldn't be on the first pair, either Hutton or a trade would take his spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) 28 minutes ago, NEON.KNEE said: Olli Maata isn't a 50 point a year guy...I just found Camel Toe's comparison to be about the most lazy a person could have made. I think Julovi was the best D available...and with how the draft played out I can't really fault Benning... But to say that Julovi looks like Maata is just pure laziness...because they look almost identical in appearance, height and size but Julovi better be a bigger producer at the NHL level to justify passing up on some of the offensive pieces available I'm guessing you're referring to Tkachuk? The kid relies on crease play to get the majority of his points and he simply doesn't have the size to be a top six forward in that role in the NHL. He's gonna underwhelm with the Flames, you can quote me on it. And who were the other offensive pieces available? A high risk Sergachev? Keller? Nylander? Logan freaking Brown? The only guy I wish we would have gotten was Jost but even then, we did fine with this pick. Edited June 25, 2016 by guntrix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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