DeNiro Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, vinny_in_vancouver said: To anyone who is still lusting after Tkachuk, relax! Sometime in the next 2 seasons, Calgary will be offering him to us for either a second-round pick or a late-first-round pseudo-prospect. Doubt it. Tkachuk will be a impact player in his prime. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silky mitts Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 15 minutes ago, vinny_in_vancouver said: To anyone who is still lusting after Tkachuk, relax! Sometime in the next 2 seasons, Calgary will be offering him to us for either a second-round pick or a late-first-round pseudo-prospect. That's a pipe dream 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) Yes, Tkatchuk is going to be a good player. No one is doubting that. It's just annoying when people vastly underestimate Juolevi. He literally has no faults in his game. He just needs to get stronger and work on his slap shot. This guy in 3 years could be paired with Tryamkin and be one of the best defensive pairs in the league. Edited February 11, 2017 by messier's_elbow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, messier's_elbow said: Yes, Tkatchuk is going to be a good player. No one is doubting that. It's just annoying when people vastly underestimate Juolevi. He literally has no faults in his game. He just needs to get stronger and work on his slap shot. This guy in 3 years could be paired with Tryamkin and be one of the best defensive pairs in the league. Not being strong enough is definitely a fault. Yes he'll get stronger, but lets not pretend this guy is a lock to be a first pairing guy just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, DeNiro said: Not being strong enough is definitely a fault. Yes he'll get stronger, but lets not pretend this guy is a lock to be a first pairing guy just yet. Hes 18/19. He's got a great frame. 6'3. I was 170 pounds when I was 19. I'm a pretty big guy now... People fill out. There are no guarantees your right, but I'd be surprised if he doesn't end up a 1st pairing guy when he's fully developed. Edited February 11, 2017 by messier's_elbow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, messier's_elbow said: Hes 18/19. He's got a great frame. 6'3. I was 170 pounds when I was 19. I'm a pretty big guy now... People fill out. Being big and being strong are two different things though. Taylor Pyatt was big. It's how he uses his strength that's important too. Edited February 11, 2017 by DeNiro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Being big and being strong are two different things though. Taylor Pyatt was big. It's how he uses his strength that's important too. Pyatt didn't have elite hockey iq like Juolevi though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, messier's_elbow said: Pyatt didn't have elite hockey iq like Juolevi though. "Elite" gets used too loosely on here I think. He's a great prospect don't get me wrong. But D-men take a long time to ever reach a top level, and more often than not they don't reach their ceilings. He's still got a LONG ways to go before he becomes a regular top 4 D, let alone a top pairing one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihatetomatoes Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 hour ago, DeNiro said: Being big and being strong are two different things though. Taylor Pyatt was big. It's how he uses his strength that's important too. Sami Salo had a similiar frame to Juolevi. Skill and smarts beats brute and strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandwagon38 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 OJ is a slick man. Out there in every situation and just makes the simple play. Great position, great stick, beautiful first pass! He is going to be one of those players you just don't notice but for all of the right reasons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandwagon38 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 He will rack up the 2nd assists one day! Boeser from Bo from OJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, Ihatetomatoes said: Sami Salo had a similiar frame to Juolevi. Skill and smarts beats brute and strength. Salo was a tough guy too. The guy ruptured a nut (literally) and missed one game. If we have another Sami in Olli, then that's a win. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandwagon38 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Salo was a tough guy too. The guy ruptured a nut (literally) and missed one game. If we have another Sami in Olli, then that's a win. I remember when Sami would get a game star but you weren't exactly sure why. Did all of the little things right. Whenever Sami was out of the lineup it was noticeable. I think that is the impact OJ might have. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3. Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 4 hours ago, DeNiro said: Doubt it. Tkachuk will be a impact player in his prime. Agreed. WD and the twins would shun his style of play here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ihatetomatoes said: Sami Salo had a similiar frame to Juolevi. Skill and smarts beats brute and strength. Salo was also injured every time someone even farted in his direction. Not a great example to use for durability. Smarts got &#!$ kicked on a regular basis with salo actually. For every undersized d man that makes it work, there are ten undersized d men with separated shoulders Edited February 11, 2017 by cuporbust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, messier's_elbow said: Yes, Tkatchuk is going to be a good player. No one is doubting that. It's just annoying when people vastly underestimate Juolevi. He literally has no faults in his game. He just needs to get stronger and work on his slap shot. This guy in 3 years could be paired with Tryamkin and be one of the best defensive pairs in the league. I saw him (Juolevi) this fall in Penticton. He is a very smart player, great positionally, great outlet pass, he'll be a guy with lots of 'third' assists' on great breakouts - if he gets strong enough. The second best Canuck defenceman in Penticton, was McEneny - he is already big and strong enough, and has a very good shot. Utica plays him in the last minute of each period, first unit on the PK, and last minute of the game on a team laden with experienced defensemen. Hopefully, one day our next Willie MItchell, but who can shoot the puck. Edited February 11, 2017 by Ray_Cathode clarify who I was talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 4 hours ago, Ihatetomatoes said: Sami Salo had a similiar frame to Juolevi. Skill and smarts beats brute and strength. Salo was 215 pounds quite a bit bigger than Juolevi, I just hope Juolevi is as smart - and I hope Juolevi is luckier health-wise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEON.KNEE Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Is OJ eligible for Utica next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeBrew Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 hour ago, NEON.KNEE said: Is OJ eligible for Utica next season? Nope. He won't be 20 and he hasn't played 4 seasons of junior that would make him qualify to play in the AHL. So it is either NHL or Juniors for him next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, HomeBrew said: Nope. He won't be 20 and he hasn't played 4 seasons of junior that would make him qualify to play in the AHL. So it is either NHL or Juniors for him next year. And probably junior unfortunately. I think he'll need more time, being so comparatively young, to gain more strength. He'd likely be best served in Utica though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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