Sean Monahan Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 1 minute ago, DeNiro said: As good as Stecher has been early on, I still think he would be better served playing on the second pairing. Those pairing also need some more size and pushback, which is why I think Gudbranson will be in their long term plans. Just now, Sean Monahan said: Thrown Gud in there, switch Hutton and Tryamkin, and you might have something in the future. It's too early to write off the Hutton/Gudbranson pairing. Look at us Deniro 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Little bit off topic (not like this thread already isn't), but I don't see anyone asking if Edmonton made a mistake taking Puljujarvi over Tkachuk. Just saying. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyfresh Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Pears said: Little bit off topic (not like this thread already isn't), but I don't see anyone asking if Edmonton made a mistake taking Puljujarvi over Tkachuk. Just saying. Because Puljujavi was ranked top 3 by everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEON.KNEE Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 5 hours ago, Pears said: Little bit off topic (not like this thread already isn't), but I don't see anyone asking if Edmonton made a mistake taking Puljujarvi over Tkachuk. Just saying. I don't think so. I really believe that Poolparty will be an elite player in the future. It was dumb to pass on Tkachuk...Hated his lineage, but was hoping the Canucks had taken him. I am not upset that we got Juolevi in the end, because I know that if we had drafted MT, there is a huge possibillity that this coaching group would have either ruined him or buried him on the third or 4th line with very little chance for success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WeneedLumme Posted February 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2017 15 minutes ago, NEON.KNEE said: I don't think so. I really believe that Poolparty will be an elite player in the future. It was dumb to pass on Tkachuk...Hated his lineage, but was hoping the Canucks had taken him. I am not upset that we got Juolevi in the end, because I know that if we had drafted MT, there is a huge possibillity that this coaching group would have either ruined him or buried him on the third or 4th line with very little chance for success. Yeah, it would sure be a shame if OJ followed in the footsteps of Bo, Baer, Granny, Hutton, Tram, Stecher, etc., one more rookie ruined by WD. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEON.KNEE Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 35 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said: Yeah, it would sure be a shame if OJ followed in the footsteps of Bo, Baer, Granny, Hutton, Tram, Stecher, etc., one more rookie ruined by WD. I said MT would have been ruined by our coaching staff, but thanks for coming out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 1 minute ago, NEON.KNEE said: I said MT would have been ruined by our coaching staff, but thanks for coming out I wonder if Olli makes our team next season? If he does, maybe we get Boeser and Gaudette too. Willie D is already on the record saying it's not a development league, so (for those guys to be on the team) Willie would be gone, right? This is the same Willie who cut Stecher and put Bo on the fourth line, even though they were very clearly our best players in the preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Just now, NEON.KNEE said: I said MT would have been ruined by our coaching staff, but thanks for coming out You can state any kind of sleazy nonsensical opinion you want about MT on the Canucks, since we will never know what would have happened. We WILL see what happens with OJ though. Thanks for trolling. Always room for more hate for members of the Canucks organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeard Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, NEON.KNEE said: I said MT would have been ruined by our coaching staff, but thanks for coming out I don't think MT is lazy, Virtanen is only suffering because of fitness, if he'd work hard like the grinders we have or bo horvat when he was 19, he would still be with the nucks. MT is different, he's more like Burrows, he does everything do he could stay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEON.KNEE Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said: You can state any kind of sleazy nonsensical opinion you want about MT on the Canucks, since we will never know what would have happened. We WILL see what happens with OJ though. Thanks for trolling. Always room for more hate for members of the Canucks organization. reading must not be your strong suit...If you go thru this thread, or even read what I had written from which you quoted, I said I am ok with OJ, I am nothing but a fan of this team. You seem to be the one trolling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 21 minutes ago, NEON.KNEE said: reading must not be your strong suit...If you go thru this thread, or even read what I had written from which you quoted, I said I am ok with OJ, I am nothing but a fan of this team. You seem to be the one trolling Right...you are a big fan of this team. You just feel that JB was dumb to pick OJ, and WD ruins our rookies. Like the way he ruined Bo, Baer, Granny, Hutton, Tram, Stecher, etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEON.KNEE Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 43 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said: Right...you are a big fan of this team. You just feel that JB was dumb to pick OJ, and WD ruins our rookies. Like the way he ruined Bo, Baer, Granny, Hutton, Tram, Stecher, etc. Seriously...can you even read? It was dumb to pass on Tkachuk...but I am happy that we picked OJ...WTF dude. you are officially blocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 45 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said: Right...you are a big fan of this team. You just feel that JB was dumb to pick OJ, and WD ruins our rookies. Like the way he ruined Bo, Baer, Granny, Hutton, Tram, Stecher, etc. I think the poster is echoing what many posters are feeling about the Olli pick. We are fine with Olli, but were expecting JB to pick Tkatchuk. Now seeing Tkatchuk doing so well on a team we absolutely hate, is upsetting. Olli may very well become a good player for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Alflives said: I think the poster is echoing what many posters are feeling about the Olli pick. We are fine with Olli, but were expecting JB to pick Tkatchuk. Now seeing Tkatchuk doing so well on a team we absolutely hate, is upsetting. Olli may very well become a good player for us. Sadly I don't think our fan base will allow OJ to become a good player for us. There'll always be a player we should have taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Gooseberries said: Sadly I don't think our fan base will allow OJ to become a good player for us. There'll always be a player we should have taken. If Olli does win over the fans here, that means he becomes a really good player, much like Bo has done. Imagine a Bo level player on our defence:) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 73 Percent Posted February 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Alflives said: If Olli does win over the fans here, that means he becomes a really good player, much like Bo has done. Imagine a Bo level player on our defence:) Yeah i guess it's up to him. But do you remember before bo was in the nhl... all we could talk about was nichushkin. That's what you and half CDC is doing with Tkachuk and OJ. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Gooseberries said: Yeah i guess it's up to him. But do you remember before bo was in the nhl... all we could talk about was nichushkin. That's what you and half CDC is doing with Tkachuk and OJ. Damned instant gratification society. No patience. No joy of pleasure delay. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 1 minute ago, J.R. said: Damned instant gratification society. No patience. No joy of pleasure delay. I think it's more of a "grass is greener" mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NameFaker Posted February 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, Gooseberries said: Yeah i guess it's up to him. But do you remember before bo was in the nhl... all we could talk about was nichushkin. That's what you and half CDC is doing with Tkachuk and OJ. I think our normal intuitions are based around the success of a project. If Gauguin hadn't become a famous painter, then he's just an asshole who abandoned his family. But he succeeded, and we consider his works to supersede that moral evil. Or, at least, some people think it's justified. In a similar way, the success or failure of draft picks determine our view of the people making those decisions. JB takes big risks with his early picks, as I see it. Defensemen are more chimerical, difficult to predict, and take longer to develop. Jake was always an enigma, but the allure of his potential made the hockey gods salivate. These were risks. They haven't been successful yet, and so we condemn the man who made the choice. But Gaugin wasn't famous right away. It took years to develop his craft and hone his skills. Patience, and an open mind. After considering as many angles as I can, the least I can say is that I understand and respect JB's method. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aGENT Posted February 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Gooseberries said: I think it's more of a "grass is greener" mentality. Both really. People can't seem to wait for players to develop and assume that more nhl ready players automatically equal 'better'. Or that more rebuilt teams have 'better' prospect pools. Well sure, they've been rebuilding twice as long + as we have. How much 'better' was their prospect pool 3 years in to their rebuild though? It's as though almost nobody can consider context or critically think anymore. And those of us who do get slammed for 'making excuses' and being 'Homers'. Ridiculous, impatient and infantile. Edited February 18, 2017 by J.R. 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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