Popular Post Jiggs50 Posted June 25, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2016 It's funny how JB gives zero faks what other people have to say. Took Virtanen and people hated. Took Boeser and some said he reached lmao. Keeps trading 2nds. Passed on Tkachuk for the Juolevi. Tampered lol. Dude's still not fazed. Has a vision and he's building the team his way. Hopefully it works! 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Winter Soldier said: Remember what people said last year? We could have had Konecky. How many people are still saying this besides Desiboy? This is why I put so little faith in what people say on these boards in terms of who we "should" draft. What's even the point of being upset when it's still a lottery in the end? Sure. Calgary gets Tkachuk. I said earlier in this thread that Edmonton has had how many good forwards for the past few years? I'll believe Calgary's offense when I see it. Already, I think we're looking to have a better defence than both Edmonton and Calgary for years to come. I think we can handle what comes out way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Jiggs50 said: It's funny how JB gives zero faks what other people have to say. Took Virtanen and people hated. Took Boeser and some said he reached lmao. Keeps trading 2nds. Passed on Tkachuk for the Juolevi. Tampered lol. Dude's still not fazed. Has a vision and he's building the team his way. Hopefully it works! +1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Grape Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, Jiggs50 said: It's funny how JB gives zero faks what other people have to say. Took Virtanen and people hated. Took Boeser and some said he reached lmao. Keeps trading 2nds. Passed on Tkachuk for the Juolevi. Tampered lol. Dude's still not fazed. Has a vision and he's building the team his way. Hopefully it works! Although some of his moves are very very very questionable and look borderline horrible. You do have to give him props for sticking to what he believes in. IDK if it works at the end... but if it does then he deserves all the credit and many fans including me will eat crow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) When the pick was made I liked it. The more I think about it, I love the pick. How many threads, proposals, and discussion that we need a PMD defensemen??? Well we got one. With he Gudbranson trade we also got a big, fast RHD that can play a ton of minutes. If we can can stop shots, and break up plays, and nullify the opponents offence. And hold the line and get shots from the point. That's where our offence will come from. Edited June 25, 2016 by Ghostsof1915 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Grape said: Although some of his moves are very very very questionable and look borderline horrible. You do have to give him props for sticking to what he believes in. IDK if it works at the end... but if it does then he deserves all the credit and many fans including me will eat crow. Considering the fickle Benning was left with when he took over, I'd say Benning's been great for us. I've actually liked most of his moves, but I also don't believe value-for-value of each trade should matter either so long as you get what you want. If you focus solely on getting value-for-value, you'd likely go crazy looking at some of Benning's moves, yet they make sense really. Edited June 25, 2016 by The Lock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthycanuck Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 5 hours ago, Sbriggs said: Ya but Gillis was handed a stacked team playing at its peak, look what Benning was dealt. And really its his 3rd draft not his third year. Talk that crap after Benning's 5th season under his belt. Your not even correct only giving him 1 good trade. oh ok so give me another trade that he won Shinkaruk for Granlund , for salary cap reasons alone we lost the trade. Granlund has nowhere close the ceiling of Shinkaruk has, and he pretty much has to be pencilled in to be in the lineup or else hes in the waiver wire. Shinkaruk is ineligible to get on waivers for 2 years. If he sucks this training camp, oh well, hes got another chance next year Linden Vey for a 2nd- we lost this one big time. Linden Vey couldve been lost with no compensation this year and is slim footing to be on the roster next year because of his psycho dad. 2nd round draft pick for a guy that went to waivers the year after, sorry, it was a stupid trade by a stupid GM Kassian for a 5th and Prust - I absolutely despise Zack Kassian, he is absolute garbage...BUT to trade him for Prust who didn't even last a season..and to throw a 5th round pick to boot to get him out of town. Its trading garbage for garbage, but us giving up another asset. Clendenning for Forsing - Clendenning has bounced around for a few teams already in a span of a year, while forsling got signed by the blackhawks Brandon Sutter for a pick, clendenning and bonino - Bonino should've been the Conn smythe winner. Doesn't matter if Brandon Sutter scores 100 goals next year. Bonino and the Pens won a cup. Mission accomplished. Its like comparing Joe Niewendyk and Jarome Iginla trade. Iginla is the much better player, but when its all said and done, Niewendyk won a cup for the stars, anything else Iginla did for the Flames is irrelevant Please enlighten me with your vast hockey knowledge. Gillis was handed a stacked team? The team missed the playoffs the year before and all off a sudden they were stacked? Where was Henrik and Daniel's Art Ross, Hart, Lester B Pearson trophies and Ryan Keslers Selke during the Dave Nonis Era? Sorry, but Erhoff played a big part on getting the offence going, and Lapierre and Higgins, and the signing of Raffi Torres basically propelled us to the Stanley cup final. Go get your Matthews jersey signed, loser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Only thing that pisses me off is Edmonton getting Puljujarvi. 21 minutes ago, The Lock said: This is why I put so little faith in what people say on these boards in terms of who we "should" draft. What's even the point of being upset when it's still a lottery in the end? Sure. Calgary gets Tkachuk. I said earlier in this thread that Edmonton has had how many good forwards for the past few years? I'll believe Calgary's offense when I see it. Already, I think we're looking to have a better defence than both Edmonton and Calgary for years to come. I think we can handle what comes out way. It's different now, Edmonton has McDavid and they have new management. I could see them trading Eberle or Hall for a d-man. Draisaitl-McDavid-Puljujarvi -RNH-Eberle -Caggiula-Yakupov Nurse-Subban? Klefbom Reinhart Their future looks pretty good.... I'm happy with the Juolevi pick though. Does he have #1 potential, or is he going to be more of a #2 guy in his prime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 24 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: When the pick was made I liked it. The more I think about it, I love the pick. How many threads, proposals, and discussion that we need a PMD defensemen??? Well we got one. And we got a big, fast RHD that can play a ton of minutes. If we can can stop shots, and break up plays, and nullify the opponents offence. And hold the line and get shots from the point. That's where our offence will come from. LHD. I wish he was RHD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Just now, Toews said: LHD. I wish he was RHD. I knew I should have elaborated that. The McCann for Gudbranson trade. So we have a PMD LHD, and a Big, eats tons of minutes RHD with some offensive upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Just now, Ghostsof1915 said: I knew I should have elaborated that. The McCann for Gudbranson trade. So we have a PMD LHD, and a Big, eats tons of minutes RHD with some offensive upside. Sorry, it's late and I am really buzzed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Toews said: Sorry, it's late and I am really buzzed. No worries. As I said, I probably should have elaborated more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 I'm not sure what to think of this pick right now. Going to wait till I see him play this year (hopefully in a Comets jersey). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 40 minutes ago, filthycanuck said: oh ok so give me another trade that he won Shinkaruk for Granlund , for salary cap reasons alone we lost the trade. Granlund has nowhere close the ceiling of Shinkaruk has, and he pretty much has to be pencilled in to be in the lineup or else hes in the waiver wire. Shinkaruk is ineligible to get on waivers for 2 years. If he sucks this training camp, oh well, hes got another chance next year Linden Vey for a 2nd- we lost this one big time. Linden Vey couldve been lost with no compensation this year and is slim footing to be on the roster next year because of his psycho dad. 2nd round draft pick for a guy that went to waivers the year after, sorry, it was a stupid trade by a stupid GM Kassian for a 5th and Prust - I absolutely despise Zack Kassian, he is absolute garbage...BUT to trade him for Prust who didn't even last a season..and to throw a 5th round pick to boot to get him out of town. Its trading garbage for garbage, but us giving up another asset. Clendenning for Forsing - Clendenning has bounced around for a few teams already in a span of a year, while forsling got signed by the blackhawks Brandon Sutter for a pick, clendenning and bonino - Bonino should've been the Conn smythe winner. Doesn't matter if Brandon Sutter scores 100 goals next year. Bonino and the Pens won a cup. Mission accomplished. Its like comparing Joe Niewendyk and Jarome Iginla trade. Iginla is the much better player, but when its all said and done, Niewendyk won a cup for the stars, anything else Iginla did for the Flames is irrelevant Please enlighten me with your vast hockey knowledge. Gillis was handed a stacked team? The team missed the playoffs the year before and all off a sudden they were stacked? Where was Henrik and Daniel's Art Ross, Hart, Lester B Pearson trophies and Ryan Keslers Selke during the Dave Nonis Era? Sorry, but Erhoff played a big part on getting the offence going, and Lapierre and Higgins, and the signing of Raffi Torres basically propelled us to the Stanley cup final. Go get your Matthews jersey signed, loser There is so much wrong with this statement. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblix Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Mathew Barzal said: I'm not sure what to think of this pick right now. Going to wait till I see him play this year (hopefully in a Comets jersey). Think that's a nice bonus for him to play in the AHL next year. Fact that he can come in and out of the Canucks lineup into big time minutes in the AHL, not to mention playing with other skilled defenders like Subban or Stecher... Seems pretty good. Course that does burn a year of contract, so maybe we just want him in Juniors and let him steep for a bit. This guy got compared to Olli Maatta which is fair in many regards but he's too new to be compared to him since he's going to get better still. Olli Maatta and Juolevi both seem like they could become a comparable player to Cam Fowler. Great skating, reliable and good offensively. Maybe not the elite in anything specific... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blömqvist Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 I trust Benning's scouting. If I recall correctly, a few months ago Benning said that if all things were equal and there was a #1 forward position and #1 defenseman available to draft, he would go with the defenseman. BUT, at that time he didn't believe there were any #1 defenseman available in this draft, which led many of of us to believe he would go for the #1 forward position in Dubois or Tkachuk. Fast forward to a couple of weeks ago, after the CHL Playoffs and Memorial Cup, and Benning said he had a defenseman in his top 6 draft list, and believed that there may be a #1 defenseman after all. Scouting consensus is that Tkachuk will likely be a #1 LW, but despite that Benning picked Juolevi instead. I can only assume that Benning believes that Juolevi has the potential to one day be a #1 defenseman. Benning made an excellent pick. He got the consensus best defenseman, who many consider to have the highest floor, and who he may consider to have the greatest potential to reach that high #1D ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 9 hours ago, wshdrvvn said: Probably passed up on goal scoring in Tkachuk but Juolevi has a chance to be a #1 here I'm of the opinion guys like The Sedins Tkachuk score more goals because they have guys like Ehrhoff Juolevi on their team? I did a little jig when I heard the news, broke into rhythm and uncontrolled state of sway... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brobidus Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Erik Karlsson said: Only thing that pisses me off is Edmonton getting Puljujarvi. It's different now, Edmonton has McDavid and they have new management. I could see them trading Eberle or Hall for a d-man. Draisaitl-McDavid-Puljujarvi -RNH-Eberle -Caggiula-Yakupov Nurse-Subban? Klefbom Reinhart Their future looks pretty good.... I'm happy with the Juolevi pick though. Does he have #1 potential, or is he going to be more of a #2 guy in his prime? Unless I've missed a trade you've left out Hall.... Holy crap that's scary. How are the Oilers going to pay up for all these guys when they each score 40 goals/ 80 assists in 8 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rizzuto&hatoum Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Hoping he becomes the next Jyrki Lumme, the best Finnish defenceman on the Canucks ever. Better than Salo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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