Jump to content
The Official Site of the Vancouver Canucks
Canucks Community

Olli Juolevi | #48 | D


b3.

Recommended Posts

He projects to be in my opinion a Finnish version of Chris Tanev, but slightly more offensive. Maybe a hybrid of Tanev and Sami Salo. Hopefully less injury prone.  That is a good player, worth a 5th overall pick imo. 

 

I'd rather have that than a Mathew Tkachuk.

 

Obviously this is my own opinion and crystal ball projection.

  • Cheers 2
  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

40 minutes ago, 10pavelbure96 said:

He projects to be in my opinion a Finnish version of Chris Tanev, but slightly more offensive. Maybe a hybrid of Tanev and Sami Salo. Hopefully less injury prone.  That is a good player, worth a 5th overall pick imo. 

 

I'd rather have that than a Mathew Tkachuk.

 

Obviously this is my own opinion and crystal ball projection.

What parts of OJ game do you compare to Tanev? Seeing this comparison lots but haven't quite been able to wrap my head around it 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

Yet again, look CDC continuing to whine about which player we should have taken, how terrible they are in the WJC and of course how that means they'll never be NHL players because "some analyst said something and anaytics"

 

I truly want to believe that after this long some people would have grown up enough to stop writing literal kids off after a single year; or that they'd be intelligent enough to not base or project future success off of a single 5-6 game tournament.

 

But then hey, CDC right

 

Maybe we should ask Ferraro or Dreger though what they think

  • Cheers 1
  • Upvote 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

28 minutes ago, PCprincipal said:

What parts of OJ game do you compare to Tanev? Seeing this comparison lots but haven't quite been able to wrap my head around it 

Look at the way he is deployed for one. And there is nothing flashy about his game but he does all the little things consistently. If I was going to compare him,just by virtue of playing style, to anyone on the canucks, to me anyway, it looks like Tanev.

  • Cheers 1
  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

31 minutes ago, PCprincipal said:

What parts of OJ game do you compare to Tanev? Seeing this comparison lots but haven't quite been able to wrap my head around it 

I would say the long smooth strides. Head up vision on outlet passes. At times body position going into board battles which is improving with OJ. I guarantee this is a result of working with Salo. He was a master at positioning his body on the right side if the opponent and using leverage to separate man from puck and disrupting plays.

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 hours ago, N7Nucks said:

Yeah it's doubtful he'll make a super impactful difference like McAvoy or Sergachev, but he can still be a solid do it all defencemen. Hammer is one of my fav Canucks of all time. So if Juolevi follows a similar path I'd say that's pretty good for a 5th overall pick. People just gotta simmer down with expectations on the guy. Draft is over and done with and he did not choose to be selected where he was. Just gotta cheer for him and hope for him to succeed.

If he becomes a 'Hamhuis' (or a Chris Tanev with more size and offense for that matter), that's a pretty 'impactful and difference making player' fwiw. 

 

And yes, 'pretty good' for a 5th overall pick. 

 

4 hours ago, N7Nucks said:

I also feel Sergachev is benefiting greatly from one of the most devastating offensive teams in the league, but he did make that team. Juolevi isn't good enough to get on one of the worst teams in the league but Sergachev cracked one of the best rosters in the league. I still think we have a good player, don't get me wrong. Draft is so hard to predict, even the first round of the draft can be hit and miss.

We certainly don't have anyone the caliber of Hedman on our team but we have a LOT of 2nd/3rd pairing depth. Just because our team isn't very good doesn't mean it would be easy to beat all that depth as a 19 year old.

 

TBL however is pretty shallow past their top 4. Their 1st pair is certainly worlds better than ours but after that there's a lot more room for a kid to make their D core. Especially in a sheltered offensive role on an otherwise deep and talented team.

 

It's not as simple as 'Juolevi can't even make a bad team'.

  • Upvote 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

28 minutes ago, aGENT said:

If he becomes a 'Hamhuis' (or a Chris Tanev with more size and offense for that matter), that's a pretty 'impactful and difference making player' fwiw. 

 

And yes, 'pretty good' for a 5th overall pick. 

 

We certainly don't have anyone the caliber of Hedman on our team but we have a LOT of 2nd/3rd pairing depth. Just because our team isn't very good doesn't mean it would be easy to beat all that depth as a 19 year old.

 

TBL however is pretty shallow past their top 4. Their 1st pair is certainly worlds better than ours but after that there's a lot more room for a kid to make their D core. Especially in a sheltered offensive role on an otherwise deep and talented team.

 

It's not as simple as 'Juolevi can't even make a bad team'.

I think it's just more that Sergachev is a lot more physically mature than Juolevi, Serg has always has the physical tools but it more of a question of if he has the hockey sense. 

 

Watching Juolevi at the WJC's you can see he is a lot bigger now and is using that size well, playing with men in a faster league has been good for Juolevi. I definitely see him making the team next year. IMO his only hurdle is getting his tempo and intensity up to match the pace of NHL play as he doesn't have the quickest feet and tends to play a casual style of game.

  • Cheers 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, Ihatetomatoes said:

I think it's just more that Sergachev is a lot more physically mature than Juolevi, Serg has always has the physical tools but it more of a question of if he has the hockey sense. 

 

Watching Juolevi at the WJC's you can see he is a lot bigger now and is using that size well, playing with men in a faster league has been good for Juolevi. I definitely see him making the team next year. IMO his only hurdle is getting his tempo and intensity up to match the pace of NHL play as he doesn't have the quickest feet and tends to play a casual style of game.

You can look at his draft year and now with a near 24 + pound weight difference and see he is slower.  I anticipate he gets faster as his body adjusts

Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

You can look at his draft year and now with a near 24 + pound weight difference and see he is slower.  I anticipate he gets faster as his body adjusts

Agreed, now that he won't be just focused on gaining size and strength in the offseason he can work on fitness and explosive strength. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, 10pavelbure96 said:

Look at the way he is deployed for one. And there is nothing flashy about his game but he does all the little things consistently. If I was going to compare him,just by virtue of playing style, to anyone on the canucks, to me anyway, it looks like Tanev.

I cannot comment on this specifically as I clearly haven't seen him play as much as you.  But while I understand you were not directly claiming he will be exactly as good defensively as Tanev, its almost unfair to compare almost any player to Tanev as he is SO high end in that regard.

 

Perhaps lets just say he appears very sound defensively.  Which when combined with some scoring makes for a solid middle pairing defenseman.  If thats what he turns out to be then it is unfortunate considering initial hopes but it could be worse.

Edited by kloubek
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Hairy Kneel said:

He looks 2 years away from making the Canucks which is fine considering were in a rebuild.

What part of his game do you think requires two years? I agree he may need a bit of time. But I honestly can see him battle for a spot this coming year given a strong off season. Only thing in his game which doesn't look ready is his explosiveness and transitional speed. Everything else looks solid. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, cyoung said:

What part of his game do you think requires two years? I agree he may need a bit of time. But I honestly can see him battle for a spot this coming year given a strong off season. Only thing in his game which doesn't look ready is his explosiveness and transitional speed. Everything else looks solid. 

Battle is the key word, I think he would do well to adjust to the NA pro game in Utica, learn the pro-style and come in stronger, and learn to play his heavier weight, especially his crease play. He can run the PP in Utica then be ready the following season. We'll be adding more of our core youth by then too. And hopefully pushing for a playoff spot. 

 

Plus we'll have Tavares and Tryamkin to help. :)

  • Cheers 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, 10pavelbure96 said:

Look at the way he is deployed for one. And there is nothing flashy about his game but he does all the little things consistently. If I was going to compare him,just by virtue of playing style, to anyone on the canucks, to me anyway, it looks like Tanev.

 

3 hours ago, rekker said:

I would say the long smooth strides. Head up vision on outlet passes. At times body position going into board battles which is improving with OJ. I guarantee this is a result of working with Salo. He was a master at positioning his body on the right side if the opponent and using leverage to separate man from puck and disrupting plays.

I can see what you guys mean. Definitely a good comparison if you're picking just off the canucks. 

 

Just for reference here's a scoring report on Pietrangelo by the hockey news from his draft year

 

Has excellent size, two-way ability and loads of two-way acumen. Plays with poise and excels with the man advantage; he has a quality point shot. An excellent skater for such a big man, he's also a good playmaker.
FLAWS:
Can be accused of being a little inconsistent when it comes to the offensive side of the game. Injuries are also a bit of a concern, mostly because he owns a lanky frame. Isn't the most accurate shooter from the point

 

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, PCprincipal said:

 

I can see what you guys mean. Definitely a good comparison if you're picking just off the canucks. 

 

Just for reference here's a scoring report on Pietrangelo by the hockey news from his draft year

 

Has excellent size, two-way ability and loads of two-way acumen. Plays with poise and excels with the man advantage; he has a quality point shot. An excellent skater for such a big man, he's also a good playmaker.
FLAWS:
Can be accused of being a little inconsistent when it comes to the offensive side of the game. Injuries are also a bit of a concern, mostly because he owns a lanky frame. Isn't the most accurate shooter from the point

 

Its a tough comparison to Pietrangelo. To me Piet just does everything real well. Everything. So that's a tough high water mark for any young D man to rise to. If OJ got anywhere close to a Piet it would be a welcome addition to the team that's for sure.

  • Cheers 1
  • Upvote 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, rekker said:

Its a tough comparison to Pietrangelo. To me Piet just does everything real well. Everything. So that's a tough high water mark for any young D man to rise to. If OJ got anywhere close to a Piet it would be a welcome addition to the team that's for sure.

Agreed it will be really tough. But I think that's his ceiling just my opinion!

  • Upvote 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Hairy Kneel said:

Battle is the key word, I think he would do well to adjust to the NA pro game in Utica, learn the pro-style and come in stronger, and learn to play his heavier weight, especially his crease play. He can run the PP in Utica then be ready the following season. We'll be adding more of our core youth by then too. And hopefully pushing for a playoff spot. 

 

Plus we'll have Tavares and Tryamkin to help. :)

Next year, after we move MDZ at the 2019 TDL. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • -Vintage Canuck- changed the title to Olli Juolevi | #48 | D
  • -SN- locked and unlocked this topic

Please sign in to comment

You will be able to leave a comment after signing in



Sign In Now
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...