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He will fit right in with what we are trying to build. To the Edler comparisons; Juolevi moves the puck better than Edler. He will be great for us at getting the puck to guys like Boeser/Pettersson/Horvat/exc. And he should really help the powerplay once he establishes himself. I think he's got the best upside as a PP defenseman out of all the guys we have. 

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3 hours ago, Odd. said:

I think a lot of people are getting confused by this "he looks disinterested" remark with his non-flashy, calm, smooth and collected game. Again he's not going to wow you every time he touches the puck. Skating all over the ice doesn't make you a great player, just ask Bartkowski. Juolevi was easily the best defenseman (along with Jokiharju) for Finland in that tournament. I'm glad his point totals reflect that. 

 

IMO, if Juolevi can bring the exact kind of game he had during the WJC to training camp/preseason, he's easily going to crack our futile defense. Juolevi/Stecher pairing would look very nice.

that's one of the huge difference, between a hockey fan that can recognize talent, vs ones that only know how to watch the "flash and dash" type approach. 

if we were to scout for the canucks most of em wouldn't be able to identify talents like Boeser, who isn't a flashy player himself.

 

It's quite hard to see these type of players also not that hard.  I see a ton of Ryan Suter in Olli Juolevi, although I don't dare to say he will be at that level, but I do see that type of style in Juolevi.  Personally I though he was a Beaut, and there were instances were Juolevi had more ice time then the so called top dman pairing in Heskanen's line.  comining into the tourny Juolevi was the 2nd pairing dman, Hesikanen, Valilamki was the top pairing.  on the games where it was easy sailing for Finland that line reamined the top line, but in big games like vs Canada and Czech he was their top pairing because the Heskainen line kept on being exposed. goes to show that he was their best player.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Jester13 said:

I'm sorry, but he does make some careless (i.e. lackadaisical) shots, backchecks, and plays sometimes. He's not some infallible prospect who never makes mistakes like some on here make him seem. It's just an area that he can improve on. A little less lack and a little more urgency. Is that not ok to say? 

 

These boards are so polarizing: it's either blind love or hate for our players.

 

You of all people, Zepp, should be able to have a balanced discussion about a player - I've read you on these boards complaining of others not being able to, so what gives when it comes to OJ?

 

I can't stand MT, btw, if that helps any.

I don't know why people are arguing against this notion. Having to play a more consistent game with intensity is what MOST prospects have to do in order to make it to the pros - it is what Virtanen had to learn the hard way and it is what Goldobin is currently learning as well. For Juolevi, the things that will determine whether he makes the team next year are his consistent intensity level and his foot speed. He has the ability to do so - as we have seen it perviously. If he can bring his 'A' game on regular basis like he did in this tournaments last game, he will be better than just a "solid" prospect/player. He tends to pick it up when the games matter more, so if he only ends up bringing his 'A' game during the playoffs, then I am fine with that too. 

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2 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said:

I read many of the posts on this thread and wonder how people can possibly know what a kid is thinking on an ice sheet based upon what they themselves are seeing from a skewed version of events on a television set.    Further, if any one has ever played hockey beyond the beer league/house league level you will know full well that what happens at ice level and who is really controlling the game is very hard to see at times from the stands let alone a television set.   

 

It is from that above perspective that leads me to conclude, when I see things like people questioning passion for the game or intensity or even effort (the term lackadaisical was farcically used), that it seems to be more "fun" for people to invent issues for their team's prospects than support that prospect.   NO ONE at the World Junior level is "lackadaisical" and NO ONE lacks passion for the game.   

 

Good grief.    

 

I call these people "stat sheets" scouts. hfboards.com is popular for that crap.    also I call em. "TV scouts" which they will decide on a players projection based on a game they saw on tv and just remember that performance.

 

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Further, if any one has ever played hockey beyond the beer league/house league level

actually even at an intermediate level beer league level, you can start to somewhat relate to what happens in hockey in general. 

 

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23 minutes ago, HomeBrew said:

I don't know why people are arguing against this notion. Having to play a more consistent game with intensity is what MOST prospects have to do in order to make it to the pros - it is what Virtanen had to learn the hard way and it is what Goldobin is currently learning as well. For Juolevi, the things that will determine whether he makes the team next year are his consistent intensity level and his foot speed. He has the ability to do so - as we have seen it perviously. If he can bring his 'A' game on regular basis like he did in this tournaments last game, he will be better than just a "solid" prospect/player. He tends to pick it up when the games matter more, so if he only ends up bringing his 'A' game during the playoffs, then I am fine with that too. 

I think it's because CDC isn't used to reading actual hockey talk rather than constant undue criticism or homerism, so it's easy to take some peoples' opinions the wrong way. 

 

I really hope he gets a chance to play with Tanev at some point. I really like the TanMan as an example of being calm, cool, and collective yet always with a sense of urgency. 

 

I'd like to see him cut some weight as well, now that he's bulked up, to help with his mobility/foot speed. He's already so sound positionally, but once he gets to a more manageable playing weight I think it'll make his game even easier for him. 

 

And I think that's the thing with his high IQ, is that the game is easy for him, hence feeling bored of playing against junior-level players. I'm looking forward to seeing him play against the best of the best. I hope he'll be ready next year, simply for CDCs sake :P

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4 hours ago, kenhodgejr said:

If Juolevi earns a spot on our LD next season who would you have him replace?

 

-Edler

-Hutton

-Del Zotto

-Pouliot 

As much of a fan of Edler I am (and defender of the unwarranted abuse he takes) I'd love to see him moved to a contender at this TDL.

 

Go in to next year with something like:

 

Hutton, Tanev

MDZ, Gudbranson 

Pouliot, Stecher 

 

Holme, Biega

 

Juolevi can start in Utica, get call ups with injuries and then called up when we move MDZ next TDL. 

 

Edler 50% retained to TBL for Cal Foot please. 

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7 hours ago, CanuckGAME said:

This ain't EA sports bro.

 

And Steve Yzerman ain't Peter Chiarelli.

 

7 hours ago, cyoung said:

Why on earth would tampa ever do that haha. 

He'd vastly improve their D now and help them to go on a couple solid cup runs. 

 

We'd maybe have to add a touch of sweetener. 

 

Let me guess, you guys think Edler sucks? :rolleyes:

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22 minutes ago, aGENT said:

 

He'd vastly improve their D now and help them to go on a couple solid cup runs. 

 

We'd maybe have to add a touch of sweetener. 

 

Let me guess, you guys think Edler sucks? :rolleyes:

How would be vastly improved their D?

 

Their left side is

Hedman 

Sergachev 

Coburn

 

No way he dethrones hedman or sergachev. Is he even that much of an upgrade over Coburn? Also what would happen to Coburn if he did slot in as 3ld? I doubt they want his 3.7 in the press box.

 

Tampas right side is much weaker. But elder can barely play the left anymore let alone the right. It would make much more sense to send them tanev for a massive return. 

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1 hour ago, 73 Percent said:

How would be vastly improved their D?

 

Their left side is

Hedman 

Sergachev 

Coburn

 

No way he dethrones hedman or sergachev. Is he even that much of an upgrade over Coburn? Also what would happen to Coburn if he did slot in as 3ld? I doubt they want his 3.7 in the press box.

 

Tampas right side is much weaker. But elder can barely play the left anymore let alone the right. It would make much more sense to send them tanev for a massive return. 

Of course he doesn't 'dethrone' (:rolleyes:) Hedman but I hate to break it to you, he's still a better overall D than Sergachev (and his sheltered offensive deployment) and likely will be for the vast majority/all of his remaining term. He'd also allow them to keep sheltering Sergachev until he's ready for harder deployment.

 

He's miles better than Coburn. And no they probably wouldn't have him sitting in the press box. Perhaps Serg plays right side or they move him in a separate deal or maybe we take him back instead of retaining on Edler.

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