rekker Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 8 hours ago, Ihatetomatoes said: Oh man. I gotta admit I was fretting a little when Domi was crushing it and Nychuskin looked like the next Hossa. Still always liked the Horvat pick though just because you could tell he had the right attitude to be a pro but those first few years there made it tough. I don't think too many expected Horvat to have this much offensive game at the NHL level....He's still improving too. Love it What kept the faith in Horvat for me was the praise heaped on him by various junior coaches at the time. I guess they do no more about hockey than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 minute ago, rekker said: What kept the faith in Horvat for me was the praise heaped on him by various junior coaches at the time. I guess they do no more about hockey than us. remember when everyone was outraged that brent sutter only saw brendan gaunce as a 4th line player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 17 minutes ago, tas said: remember when everyone was outraged that brent sutter only saw brendan gaunce as a 4th line player? Doh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 28 minutes ago, tas said: remember when everyone was outraged that brent sutter only saw brendan gaunce as a 4th line player? Yeah I do remember that. I also remember Canada not even medalling that year. Maybe he should have had Brendan "third or fourth line player" gaunce on the team instead of Gauthier, leier, petal, and rychel, who all struggled emmensly that tournament and are not even really nhl players. As a team we struggled to score, defend and win faceoffs that year, all of which gaunce excels at (scored in jr). The tournament was also in Sweden on big ice. You think they would have had gaunce on the team even if it was just his familiarity with it considering he played on international ice for the majority of his JR career. I'm glad we're back to our winning ways but team Canada's thick headedness cost us some winning years. For a while it was a popularity contest to make the team not the best performance. Rant over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Juolevi and Palmu are playing today, TPS vs Jukurit, deadlocked at 1-1 late I n the third. Just for fun, here’s Olli’s shot location chart so far: Not his most active game (in terms of total SOG) but the chart still makes me happy because it’s such a good indicator of how much he moves around the zone and his two primary offensive areas, (1) the point/top of the zone and (2) coming off the left halfboards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Just now, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Juolevi and Palmu are playing today, TPS vs Jukurit, deadlocked at 1-1 late I n the third. Just for fun, here’s Olli’s shot location chart so far: Not his most active game (in terms of total SOG) but the chart still makes me happy because it’s such a good indicator of how much he moves around the zone and his two primary offensive areas, (1) the point/top of the zone and (2) coming off the left halfboards. Nice. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 cool beans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logic Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 One thing I find very interesting is that there were only 5 Finnish D in the NHL last year, there are only 6 this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gaudette Celly Posted January 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2018 15 hours ago, rekker said: I can remember when we drafted Bo. Domi and Nychuskin kicked off pro careers earlier to some success and the Canuck faithful fretters were all a panic. How did that one turn out? Patience people. Patience. The patient faithful aren't the panickers. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Toe Drag Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, logic said: One thing I find very interesting is that there were only 5 Finnish D in the NHL last year, there are only 6 this year All the Finns wanna be premier goaltenders when they grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 hours ago, logic said: One thing I find very interesting is that there were only 5 Finnish D in the NHL last year, there are only 6 this year At the same time Finland seems to be in a golden age of developing NHL talent right now. Just look at how many finns have gone in the top 10 in the last few years. You would have never seen that in the past. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rekker Posted January 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 hours ago, logic said: One thing I find very interesting is that there were only 5 Finnish D in the NHL last year, there are only 6 this year Because they don't like to defend. They like to Finnish. Zing. 3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GrizzlyAdams Posted January 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2018 Seeing a lot of people 'projecting' Olli as a 2-4 defenseman at best. What on earth is this based on? He is second all-time in terms of points per game for U20 defeseman (He's only 19) Gimme a break. Starting to get tired of it. 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Just now, GrizzlyAdams said: Seeing a lot of people 'projecting' Olli as a 2-4 defenseman at best. What on earth is this based on? He is second all-time in terms of points per game for U20 defeseman (He's only 19) Gimme a break. Starting to get tired of it. Same kinds of projections, and far worse, have been made about lots of Dmen, who became pretty good. Robinson and Lidstrom come to mind. Here’s a little bit about a young Lidstrom: “The 18-year-old wasn’t physical, perhaps played a little soft but was too good for juniors. His senior-level coach didn’t consider him a top-six defenceman, so he sat on the bench and only got a few shifts here and there.” 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, GrizzlyAdams said: Seeing a lot of people 'projecting' Olli as a 2-4 defenseman at best. What on earth is this based on? He is second all-time in terms of points per game for U20 defeseman (He's only 19) Gimme a break. Starting to get tired of it. It's based on Mathew Tkachuck, Sergachev and McAvoy already playing in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, aGENT said: It's based on Mathew Tkachuck, Sergachev and McAvoy already playing in the NHL. What do those three guys developing/maturing faster than Olli have to do with Olli’s development path? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 On 16/01/2018 at 7:54 PM, logic said: If Heiskanen wasn't around the same time as OJ, OJ would be hyped as the top Finnish D prospect in recent years. One guy I like to point out is John Klingberg, he is 25 and I am sure every single team in the league would have this guy on their top pairing. In John Klingbergs draft +2 year playing in Liiga he posted 3 points in 20 games. The next year he played in the SEL and posted 28 points in 50 games in his D+3 season before playing 3 games in the AHL where registered 1 point. At the age of 22 Klingberg started his draft +4 year in the AHL posting 12 points in 10 games to start the season before being called up to the NHL and putting up 40 points in 65 games. What I am saying is Juolevi has legit potential to be a top pairing D even if he doesn't make the NHL until 22-23 and I think he is pretty underrated around here for what he has done this season. Great post +1. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 7 hours ago, Alflives said: Same kinds of projections, and far worse, have been made about lots of Dmen, who became pretty good. Robinson and Lidstrom come to mind. Here’s a little bit about a young Lidstrom: “The 18-year-old wasn’t physical, perhaps played a little soft but was too good for juniors. His senior-level coach didn’t consider him a top-six defenceman, so he sat on the bench and only got a few shifts here and there.” thanks for sharing that. the similarities are startling. :D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 9 hours ago, Alflives said: Same kinds of projections, and far worse, have been made about lots of Dmen, who became pretty good. Robinson and Lidstrom come to mind. Here’s a little bit about a young Lidstrom: “The 18-year-old wasn’t physical, perhaps played a little soft but was too good for juniors. His senior-level coach didn’t consider him a top-six defenceman, so he sat on the bench and only got a few shifts here and there.” That's awesome. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 9 hours ago, GrizzlyAdams said: Seeing a lot of people 'projecting' Olli as a 2-4 defenseman at best. What on earth is this based on? He is second all-time in terms of points per game for U20 defeseman (He's only 19) Gimme a break. Starting to get tired of it. His game has always been more well rounded then offensive prowess. When people think number one dman they see flashy offensive point getter so right away they make these early projections. I think one thing everybody can agree on is he’s gonna be a workhorse and number 1 or not probably lead our defence in minutes on most nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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