canuck2288 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: You can't really say that because he hasn't ever been truly healthy in NA playing pro and is still pretty young. He's been derailed a year but that's just the card we got dealt. You could say that we should of drafted Tkachuk and say we'd be a better team in the short term and you'd be right. But there would be a good chance we miss out on Petey/Hughes the following years as a result of having the 2016 draft pick make an instant impact. It's speculation but not in a senseless point of view. I guess that's how luck/karma works. Like you said you win some you lose some. I am not discounting Juolevi yet. He's been a real unfortunate prospect for us with his injuries. I hope he is able to pull through and become a top 4 guy down the line because Edler is not getting any younger. I hope he can overcome and become an nhler but some of his injuries have been very bad just hope he is not another Salo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 minute ago, canuck2288 said: I hope he can overcome and become an nhler but some of his injuries have been very bad just hope he is not another Salo Yeah for sure. I feel for the guy. Going through so many misfortunes so early in his pro career. I hope he becomes a good enough player to offset this from being a major loss missing out on some guys to at least a minor loss by being an important guy for that. All we can do is hope at this point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zimmy Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Junkyard Dog said: Yeah for sure. I feel for the guy. Going through so many misfortunes so early in his pro career. I hope he becomes a good enough player to offset this from being a major loss missing out on some guys to at least a minor loss by being an important guy for that. All we can do is hope at this point. It was always about hope though, from the moment OJ was drafted. Nothing is ever for sure, not even first overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joe92 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Still no news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alflives Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 21 minutes ago, Joe92 said: Still no news? And we aren't going to get any. If it was just an ordinary injury (like when it was his back and his knee) we would have heard about it. This is not an injuring to his body though. This sounds more and more like a young kid who might want to go back home to Finland. I have no evidence of that, but it sure sounds like OJ didn't come here for any actual medical stuff, or the team would have told us about it. This is more in the kid's head. IMO, OJ is homesick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Alflives said: And we aren't going to get any. If it was just an ordinary injury (like when it was his back and his knee) we would have heard about it. This is not an injuring to his body though. This sounds more and more like a young kid who might want to go back home to Finland. I have no evidence of that, but it sure sounds like OJ didn't come here for any actual medical stuff, or the team would have told us about it. This is more in the kid's head. IMO, OJ is homesick. Juolevi moved to Canada at age 17 and played junior for 2 years in the CHL. I highly doubt he is homesick at age 21 Alfie... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Alflives said: And we aren't going to get any. If it was just an ordinary injury (like when it was his back and his knee) we would have heard about it. This is not an injuring to his body though. This sounds more and more like a young kid who might want to go back home to Finland. I have no evidence of that, but it sure sounds like OJ didn't come here for any actual medical stuff, or the team would have told us about it. This is more in the kid's head. IMO, OJ is homesick. Didn't Benning already state he was coming to Vancouver for a lower body injury, but not the knee from before? Do you believe he would blatantly lie about something like that and damage his reputation as an honest man for that? They would just state he had some personal things to take care of and leave it at that and not be involved in lying for him I would think 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 If he's back in Utica there's no way they don't know what the issue is. Its been so vague, it makes me wonder if its an infection or something non-hockey related. If it was a back problem would they have sent him back to Utica with the hope he'd be skating soon? Jim said it wasn't the knee. If it was either you think they'd just bite the bullet & say so. Backs are complicated & I'm just speculating, so news could obvs come out in an hour & I'm totally wrong. Something seems fishy here & I'm strangely optimistic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 On 11/30/2019 at 4:51 PM, canuck2288 said: Are you serious? tell me straight up you think think OJ will be better than MT? I want the kid to be successful but injuries and his slow development will keep him from being a star The only reason his development is slow is because of the injuries, if I am correct his play when healthy has always been extremely positive and I believe he'd be on the team right now without those major injuries 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Alflives said: And we aren't going to get any. If it was just an ordinary injury (like when it was his back and his knee) we would have heard about it. This is not an injuring to his body though. This sounds more and more like a young kid who might want to go back home to Finland. I have no evidence of that, but it sure sounds like OJ didn't come here for any actual medical stuff, or the team would have told us about it. This is more in the kid's head. IMO, OJ is homesick. Wow that's stretching it Alf, that's a darn wild view of things considering your basing this on not one fact. This guy has been playing in North America for along time now and I would like to think long past being home sick 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2288 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Sbriggs said: The only reason his development is slow is because of the injuries, if I am correct his play when healthy has always been extremely positive and I believe he'd be on the team right now without those major injuries I hope he gets healthy and can make it with his injuries at his age I worry what it will cost him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I'm gonna tweet to rick if he has any news. Last time I tweeted to him there was a response not directly to me but he posted Juolevi news shortly after I asked him about his status. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihatetomatoes Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Sbriggs said: The only reason his development is slow is because of the injuries, if I am correct his play when healthy has always been extremely positive and I believe he'd be on the team right now without those major injuries You are not correct. The year after his draft there were plenty of people who watched him on the daily say his play regressed or at least stagnated. He was put on the second pairing and his scoring didn't progress. People will point out that the team lost key players as an excuse for his scoring but Victor Mete played on the same team and took over top pairing duties while also having his scoring increase. There have been many warning flags about Juolevi's development without the injuries, they just make it even worse. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Smashian Kassian said: Its been so vague, it makes me wonder if its an infection or something non-hockey related. What kind of girls is he hanging around with in Utica anyway...? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Ihatetomatoes said: People will point out that the team lost key players as an excuse for his scoring but Victor Mete played on the same team and took over top pairing duties while also having his scoring increase. Actually people would more accurately report that he was put in mentoring and more defensive, sheltering role to allow Mete to free wheel offensively. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 This was from a couple days ago: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kushman Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) Got some leaked footage from juolevis medical visit here in Vancouver.. Edited December 3, 2019 by Kushman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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