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The only chance he has of a 9 game tryout is if we have at least one D and one other skater injured.

Then we could keep from sending down Gaunce , Granlund or Pedan and losing them to waivers...that scenario could easily happen really, but...Oli would have to be doing some pretty awesome things to warrant it though...point a game type play....

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3 hours ago, J.R. said:

While I generally agree with the sentiment, he'll also have to adjust to playing against men, at a far faster pace etc. 

 

I'm as high on this kid as anyone but it's far more likely he's at least 1-2 years away than not.

It is a long shot for Juolevi this year. There is no need to rush him, but I do think his IQ will shorten any transition period. He won't be playing top minutes off the hop. 

 

If if he does make noise at camp, he will have trained like a mainiac all summer. That alone would be great for the club. 

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12 minutes ago, Eastcoast meets Westcoast said:

There is no need to rush him, but I do think his IQ will shorten any transition period.

Sure. But most D take 4-6 years to develop in to an NHL player. People expecting 1 year might be setting  themselves up for disappointment. 

 

2-4 years would still be ahead of schedule. If he can beat that we'll have even more reason to be excited. 

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1 hour ago, J.R. said:

Sure. But most D take 4-6 years to develop in to an NHL player. People expecting 1 year might be setting  themselves up for disappointment. 

 

2-4 years would still be ahead of schedule. If he can beat that we'll have even more reason to be excited. 

1-2 years away. No way it takes 4 years for him to add 10 pounds of muscle...

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4 minutes ago, messier's_elbow said:

1-2 years away. No way it takes 4 years for him to add 10 pounds of muscle...

It's not just about muscle. 

 

5 hours ago, J.R. said:

While I generally agree with the sentiment, he'll also have to adjust to playing against men, at a far faster pace etc. 

 

I'm as high on this kid as anyone but it's far more likely he's at least 1-2 years away than not.

 

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2 hours ago, J.R. said:

Sure. But most D take 4-6 years to develop in to an NHL player. People expecting 1 year might be setting  themselves up for disappointment. 

 

2-4 years would still be ahead of schedule. If he can beat that we'll have even more reason to be excited. 

I am an eternal optimist, the only way to be a Canucks fan without the bitter irony... 

 

Juolevi will likely take 2 years minimum, but I don't count out his drive and confidence. He has swagger and has he potential to push for a spot sooner.  Not this year though... 

 

Added to that, he isn't trying to break onto the 76' habs. There are players he could bump off the depth chart.  

 

 

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On 9/13/2016 at 1:27 AM, Camel Toe Drag said:

I wouldn't say Virtanen and Boeser are similar at all. They both have great shots but that's about it. Plus Boeser thinks the game way higher than Jake, this is why Brock has 1rst line potential while Jake will more likely be suited for a middle 6 role. 

 

Boeser= Sharp

Virtanen= Lucic 

 

This is the way I see it. 

 

Juolevi was was the right pick regardless of who we already have. 

 

I think his point was that we have two potential high scoring wingers in our system and no potential 1d's...we wasn't comparing Virt to Boeser but rather the role they BOTH fill vs Tkachuk - which is effectively the same role top 6 wingers

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9 hours ago, Eastcoast meets Westcoast said:

It is a long shot for Juolevi this year. There is no need to rush him, but I do think his IQ will shorten any transition period. He won't be playing top minutes off the hop. 

 

If if he does make noise at camp, he will have trained like a mainiac all summer. That alone would be great for the club. 

All one needs to look at is Shea Theodore- Anaheim has been patient and now look at him, he came in and looks like a stud vet in the games he played last year.

 

But THAT took development time. Damn I wish we had him! Langley boy too!

 

Regardless, I agree with your point!

 

I wonder if Anaheim if they seem like they are close to a run this year, take Edler and Hansen (and those two players despite Van fans constant underavaluation, are worth a HELL of alot for a team making a run) for him at the deadline? A cup is worth more than a prospect even if he's going to be a strong 2d.

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12 hours ago, Eastcoast meets Westcoast said:

It is a long shot for Juolevi this year. There is no need to rush him, but I do think his IQ will shorten any transition period. He won't be playing top minutes off the hop. 

 

If if he does make noise at camp, he will have trained like a mainiac all summer. That alone would be great for the club. 

Totally agree. He might get 9 games but there is no hurry for this kid. The bottom pairing is fluid and Benning has to know where Tryamkin, Larsson and Pedan fit. That assumes that Sbisa is #5. They might give Joulevi 9 games to give him a taste but I prefer he plays CHL and logs lots of minutes.

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3 hours ago, Nuckles80 said:

I think his point was that we have two potential high scoring wingers in our system and no potential 1d's...we wasn't comparing Virt to Boeser but rather the role they BOTH fill vs Tkachuk - which is effectively the same role top 6 wingers

Both top six wingers yes. However their roles completely different. The main point was that regardless if we had or didn't have winger depth in the organization, Juolevi was the best pick seeing young defencemen are near impossible to trade for in this league therefore you need to draft and develop your own. Am I happy we have potential top six wingers in Boeser and Virtanen so we have more insentive to chose Juolevi or Tkatchuk? Absolutely. However we know the value for defencemen in this league. Juolevi was the BPA at #5. 

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23 hours ago, Eastcoast meets Westcoast said:

I am an eternal optimist, the only way to be a Canucks fan without the bitter irony... 

 

Juolevi will likely take 2 years minimum, but I don't count out his drive and confidence. He has swagger and has he potential to push for a spot sooner.  Not this year though... 

 

Added to that, he isn't trying to break onto the 76' habs. There are players he could bump off the depth chart.  

 

 

 

13 hours ago, Camel Toe Drag said:

Both top six wingers yes. However their roles completely different. The main point was that regardless if we had or didn't have winger depth in the organization, Juolevi was the best pick seeing young defencemen are near impossible to trade for in this league therefore you need to draft and develop your own. Am I happy we have potential top six wingers in Boeser and Virtanen so we have more insentive to chose Juolevi or Tkatchuk? Absolutely. However we know the value for defencemen in this league. Juolevi was the BPA at #5. 

Agree with these points. It would be a big mistake to rush Juolevi. At best he plays well enough to survive at the NHL level and we burn up a year of his ELC and his pre-UFA time -- giving up a year when he should be in his prime. Also, Juolevi is tall (over 6-3 now, although some websites are out of date) and relatively slight. It would be mistake to let him get pushed around by bigger stronger forwards. He needs to fill out -- adding strength and weight over the next year or two. Also, I would like to see Tryamkin and Pedan get a good look this year. They both have the size and toughness that the Canucks need and look like high potential players.

 

No reason to doubt that Juolevi was the BPA at #5. Still, it was disappointing not to get one of the top 4, especially as everyone thought we would get Dubois at #5.

 

Still, I am a lot more comfortable with Juolevi at #5 than I was with Virtanen at #6. I want to see Virtanen in Utica to start the season--learning to play a complete game, and regaining some confidence in his ability to score. He cannot be content to just skate fast looking for guys to hit. That is a traditional 4th line role and obviously we expect a lot more than that from a #6 overall pick. I would like to see Green get a good chance to work with him.

 

And, on a positive note. with the youngstars tournament about to start we will finally get some actual hockey to discuss. It seems like it has been a long time since we had a meaningful Canuck game.

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1 hour ago, Knucklehd said:

Saw this kid at prospects camp.  Id bet he makes the team no later than mid next season.  He is that good.  I would be surprised, but overjoyed if he made the team out of camp this year.  

He makes the team or he is in junior for the year. Rules prohibit him from coming back up, even if he stays up for the first 9 games. Unless the Canucks get a massive amount of d-man injuries during the year, then he can come up on an emergency basis.

 

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6 hours ago, JamesB said:

 

Agree with these points. It would be a big mistake to rush Juolevi. At best he plays well enough to survive at the NHL level and we burn up a year of his ELC and his pre-UFA time -- giving up a year when he should be in his prime. Also, Juolevi is tall (over 6-3 now, although some websites are out of date) and relatively slight. It would be mistake to let him get pushed around by bigger stronger forwards. He needs to fill out -- adding strength and weight over the next year or two. Also, I would like to see Tryamkin and Pedan get a good look this year. They both have the size and toughness that the Canucks need and look like high potential players.

 

No reason to doubt that Juolevi was the BPA at #5. Still, it was disappointing not to get one of the top 4, especially as everyone thought we would get Dubois at #5.

 

Still, I am a lot more comfortable with Juolevi at #5 than I was with Virtanen at #6. I want to see Virtanen in Utica to start the season--learning to play a complete game, and regaining some confidence in his ability to score. He cannot be content to just skate fast looking for guys to hit. That is a traditional 4th line role and obviously we expect a lot more than that from a #6 overall pick. I would like to see Green get a good chance to work with him.

 

And, on a positive note. with the youngstars tournament about to start we will finally get some actual hockey to discuss. It seems like it has been a long time since we had a meaningful Canuck game.

Agree on both Juolevi and Virtannen.  Jake needs Green to realize his potential. He needs to play with hunger and intesity all the time. 

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7 hours ago, Knucklehd said:

Saw this kid at prospects camp.  Id bet he makes the team no later than mid next season.  He is that good.  I would be surprised, but overjoyed if he made the team out of camp this year.  

It's a prospect camp not the NHL, he is going to look good skating around with a bunch of guys that will never see the big ice.

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37 minutes ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said:

 Some interesting words from Stecher and Green regarding the Sultan of Smooth, yeah the Sultan of Smooth. 

 

http://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/sultan-of-smooth-juolevi-impressive-in-his-canucks-debut?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 

Sultan of Smooth: Juolevi impressive in his Canucks debut

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Until then, it’s not going to be easy for a lot of people to pick out where Juolevi is excelling. But it wasn’t easy to see how good Dan Hamhuis was when he first arrived in Vancouver, either.

“(Juolevi) has got a lot of poise. He reads the game well. His hockey sense is a premium.

“Somethings you just don’t have to teach really good players.

“It’s not going to be if he plays (in the NHL). It’s just when.”

As soon as now?

People will have to wait for main training camp before trying to answer that one.

 

I mentioned this last night in the Trevor Linden at youngstars Canucks talk thread. I guess I'm not the only one who thinks this...or Botchford stole that from me ....

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