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28 minutes ago, shiznak said:

More as in, more picks and/or a prospect. Not a top 8 pick.

 

Given Arizona is in the same position as us. Would you be willing to give up our pick for a guy like Travis Hamonic?

They are a good few years ahead of us rebuilding though, so not exactly the same. We also already have more D depth.

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2 hours ago, Warhippy said:

It isn't so much regarding NP that he isn't physically ready so much as I'd be far more inclined to allow him a season in a league that is known as a lower contact more skilled league than a bruising crushing league.  facing Lucic/Kassian?maroon 5 times a year, then Getzlaf Kesler Ritchie, then Thornton etc etc etc etc.  It's a big bad division to play in and I would worry about reaggravating pre existing injuries after possibly not enough recovery time.

I think it's a very valid course of action.  NP needs more time in the oven, but the CHL isn't best place to get that and neither is the NHL.  It would be the Mathews treatment plus one year.  

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3 hours ago, Warhippy said:

Duclair and 2017 1st round pick?

 

Pffft later Tan Man

Hell no to Duclair.

 

I'd do Dvorak and a 2nd or 3rd round pick for Tanev straight up.

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2 hours ago, kenhodgejr said:

I would love to add a solid LW prospect in Maxime Comtois.  Would round out a good 3rd line with Virtanen

Maybe with our second rounder. But there is a big list of players I'd prefer if available. 

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5 hours ago, Eastcoast meets Westcoast said:

To me this draft is about 3 players with 3 others that are close, but have a weaker body of work.  Nolan, Nico and Tim are the guys JB has to be looking at.  Theoretically we should get one of these guys.  Nolan has the best pedigree and was absolutely dominant in his pre draft year, big offensive center who can play rough, make awesome passes and score goals.  The best skill guy this draft, prodigy of an NHL family.  If healthy, there would be no debate, Nolan would be number one.  But he Struggled with injuries and just had an article questioning his attitude.  A questionable article that barely qualifies as journalism.  

 

Nico has been the best player in the snapshot of this year.  He is going to be a really good player and if he hadn't faded down the stretch I would be considering him before Nolan.  Did he run out of gas, or did teams adjust and he started to get shut down? 

 

 Then there is Liljegren.  Hands down the best d man in the draft pre mono.  So, mono is a one hell of a disease, and he had it bad.  Recovery is usually never an issue and he was pretty dominant prior.  I don't think he declined at all, just wasn't able to catch up physically this season because he lost so much in the first half, including off season.  He is being undersold this draft, IMO.  

 

Necas, Mittlestad and Vlardi are all just a step below, Vlardi is a sure thing, but could only top out as middle six center, whether he is Bo 2.0 or not remains to be seen.  Necas is a wild card as it is really hard to quantify his abilities against other players, Mittlestad is in a similar situation for a potential top 5 pick.  There have been good players from their leagues, but most get taken outside of the top ten.

 

Honourable mention, Makar is another such player, how can anyone compare his skill set while playing Ina lower league.  It worked for Jost, but it's a big gamble.   There are wingers on the block, but team need will exclude them.  

 

If if we land in the top three, take one of the three best skilled players available. Nolan, Nico or Tim.  We could use all of them really ( quick trade proposal for picks 1-3... ;) ) They may not end up being the best of the class in ten years, but they represent the best odds IMO.  

 

EmW

 

Theoretically we'll be drafting fourth, with Canuck luck I'll assume we're drafting 5th unless something changes on Lottery night :P

 

I know there's a lot of variance depending on the site you're looking at but NHL's rankings have Rasmussen and Glass at 5-6 (All centre's in their top 6).  For someone who hasn't been paying a whole lot of attention, what's the knock on Rasmussen?

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10 minutes ago, J-Dizzle said:

Theoretically we'll be drafting fourth, with Canuck luck I'll assume we're drafting 5th unless something changes on Lottery night :P

 

I know there's a lot of variance depending on the site you're looking at but NHL's rankings have Rasmussen and Glass at 5-6 (All centre's in their top 6).  For someone who hasn't been paying a whole lot of attention, what's the knock on Rasmussen?

He scores all of his points on the power play and is not so great 5 on 5. Canucks Army had a good article on him from February.

 

 https://canucksarmy.com/2017/02/02/let-s-talk-about-michael-rasmussen/

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7 hours ago, stawns said:

I've always been an advocate for moving Tanev........I'm not sure they'd be willing to move a necessary piece to make it work though.  I know you want Domi and I just don't see that happening.  I think Duclair is the guy they would offer

That would be a huge no for me. 

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If we land outside the top 2, which is most likely, I hope we take Mittelstadt. The kid has such great poise and the rare ability to slow game down. Electrifying hands and excellent offensive instincts. Very good hockey IQ too. 

 

 

He has the most potential out of the draft imo. Especially that play starting at 2:28. Makes a quick play, loses the puck and quickly stick lifts the defender, and then turns and rips a pass into the slot. 

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16 minutes ago, Kaner said:

If we land outside the top 2, which is most likely, I hope we take Mittelstadt. The kid has such great poise and the rare ability to slow game down. Electrifying hands and excellent offensive instincts. Very good hockey IQ too. 

 

 

He has the most potential out of the draft imo. Especially that play starting at 2:28. Makes a quick play, loses the puck and quickly stick lifts the defender, and then turns and rips a pass into the slot. 

His offensive game is unreal. He makes plays in the offensive end so easily and he looks like he's not even trying. Game looks easy for him. He also has that quiet swagger/cockiness about him. Would love to draft him after the top 2. 

 

I haven't been able to find out too much about his defensive game and his ability in the faceoffs though. Anyone know??

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9 minutes ago, Jiggs50 said:

His offensive game is unreal. He makes plays in the offensive end so easily and he looks like he's not even trying. Game looks easy for him. He also has that quiet swagger/cockiness about him. Would love to draft him after the top 2. 

 

I haven't been able to find out too much about his defensive game and his ability in the faceoffs though. Anyone know??

He's definitely not as developed defensively as he is offensively. Having said that, he's far from a liability. Anyways, I think if you're drafting Casey, you're rafting him because of his offensive instincts, not his defensive ones. You can teach solid, structured D. You can't teach natural offensive skills. 

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7 hours ago, J.R. said:

They are a good few years ahead of us rebuilding though, so not exactly the same. We also already have more D depth.

I wouldn't say they are ahead of us in their rebuild. They do have an abundance of young talented forwards, but they still need a promising goaltending prospect. Their defensive pool is also bare, with only Chychrun, DeAngelo, and maybe Wood with bright future.

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1 hour ago, Kaner said:

If we land outside the top 2, which is most likely, I hope we take Mittelstadt. The kid has such great poise and the rare ability to slow game down. Electrifying hands and excellent offensive instincts. Very good hockey IQ too. 

 

 

He has the most potential out of the draft imo. Especially that play starting at 2:28. Makes a quick play, loses the puck and quickly stick lifts the defender, and then turns and rips a pass into the slot. 

Agreed, particularly with the good hockey IQ and rare ability to slow the game down part, the kid displays amazing speed as demonstrated  in this short clip. 

 

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6 hours ago, J-Dizzle said:

Theoretically we'll be drafting fourth, with Canuck luck I'll assume we're drafting 5th unless something changes on Lottery night :P

 

I know there's a lot of variance depending on the site you're looking at but NHL's rankings have Rasmussen and Glass at 5-6 (All centre's in their top 6).  For someone who hasn't been paying a whole lot of attention, what's the knock on Rasmussen?

You can look at probability that way, and if that's the way you want to look at it, then there's NO team that is "theoretically" going to be picking first or second or third. The alternative way of looking at it is that we have the second highest chance of getting a top 3 pick. In fact, we have the second highest chance of getting the first pick.

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53 minutes ago, shiznak said:

I wouldn't say they are ahead of us in their rebuild. They do have an abundance of young talented forwards, but they still need a promising goaltending prospect. Their defensive pool is also bare, with only Chychrun, DeAngelo, and maybe Wood with bright future.

whose to say DeAngelo is even a sure thing, hes a bit of a headcase and is a bit of an adventure in his own zone. 

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