Bobby_Lu1ngo Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I wish they could do a little mini tournament after the nhl season ends and before the draft that would be a best of 5 in the city the draft is held. Sort of like the chl top prospects game but any draft eligible player could play. Top 26 forwards top 15 dmen top 4 goalies. It would be pretty neat to watch a series like this and see how the best of the best do against each other with all eyes on them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 5 hours ago, 73 Percent said: Isn't he like super undersized? There's a difference between 180 and 140. Nvm he's 183 I thought he was like 150. Sorry. You might be mixing him up with top 10 draft eligible prospect Elias Pettersson who is around 150 pounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 My picks depending on where the Canucks are slated to pick (I don't see Hischier or Patrick dropping out of the top 2): 1. Patrick / Hischier 2. Hischier / Patrick 3. Mittelstadt 4. Vilardi 5. Liljegren At this time, I am leaning towards Patrick as our first pick simply because I feel the Canucks could use a bonafide right-handed centerman after Bo Horvat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_Lu1ngo Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Lets just get 1 or 2 and not have to worry about this whole debate. Hurry up april 29th. Dont know why they have to wait so damn long and let all of us basement feeders drown in our misery watching playoffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 1 hour ago, 250Integra said: My picks depending on where the Canucks are slated to pick (I don't see Hischier or Patrick dropping out of the top 2): 1. Patrick / Hischier 2. Hischier / Patrick 3. Mittelstadt 4. Vilardi 5. Liljegren At this time, I am leaning towards Patrick as our first pick simply because I feel the Canucks could use a bonafide right-handed centerman after Bo Horvat. i would be happy with any one of those players. the good news is that we can't drop farther than 5th. we are gauranteed one of those players that you've listed. awesome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blömqvist Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 6 hours ago, Horvat is a Boss said: I think one key factor that should be considered when formulating rankings and determining who you want is who is eligible for the AHL next year. That is such a huge advantage for the organization as they are able to get up close and control a player's development. We all know what can happen when you are restricted to either the NHL or CHL until you're 20-21. In addition, players that are playing in mens leagues should also have an advantage. Based on that, I would have it as: 1) Hischier (AHL) 2) Patrick 3) Necas (AHL and has been playing in a mens league) 4) Liljegren (AHL and has been playing in a mens league) Those are the main guys who fall into that category. Patrick has also expressed possible interest in going over to Europe for a year to work on his skating. If he is allowed to do that then that is bonus for the team that takes him. Don't forget about the NCAA developmental route. It's worked very well the past few years with prospects taken in the first round. There's a lot of time during the week that can be spent training and bulking up in the gym and these high-end prospects that enter as freshmans play against older, more physically mature players. They aren't the "top dog" like how they would be in the CHL in their draft+1 season, and once they become the top dog they can turn pro and enter the NHL right away or spend some time in the AHL if needed, whereas with a CHL prospect they might get "rushed" to the NHL instead of playing their final year of junior. Last year, Keller, Jost, and McAvoy had excellent NCAA seasons and all three have turned pro. Keller played briefly in the NHL, and McAvoy play huge minutes in Game 1 for Boston. Mittelstadt is heading to the NCAA, same with Makar and Tolvanen. Poehling with the early birthday spent this year playing limited minutes as a freshman in the NCAA, so he might have a big sophomore season next year. Also, Oettinger with the early birthday too was the starting goaltender as a freshman for his NCAA team and had a very good season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckledraggin Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 1 hour ago, baumerman77 said: Does everyone know something I don't about Necas because he doesn't look like a top 10 pick to me. I remember he did well at the WJC but his numbers don't scream top 10 neither do the highlights of seen of him. You're right that his numbers don't jump off the page, but he is playing in a men's league, so you can't expect that. Among his peers he is above a point per game. http://www.eliteprospects.com/team.php?team=1190&year0=2017 He looks like Pastrnak but a center. I said it earlier but I would like him with Jasek. They could learn the North American game together and they both have the skills to compliment each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) the idea of a heavy 6"3 likely 6"4 C with amazing vision and skill is so tempting. the idea of Patrick is quickly growing on me. Hischier s speed and skill is off the charts. but when the post season gets rough a large C is more likely to endure hard minutes against other teams physical punishment. Patrick has been widely compared to our Anaheim rival Ryan Getzlaf. if we are fortunate enough to get either of these two items would be a franchise game changer. I'm also kind of curious who Jim would take at #3 with all those options and no clear cut number one. a top 3 pick is my hope!! so exciting - glad Kass had another strong game. fun to watch him excel after working out his alcohol addiction. :D go Canada go! Edited April 17, 2017 by Rush17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Rush17 said: the idea of a heavy 6"3 likely 6"4 C with amazing vision and skill is so tempting. the idea of Patrick is quickly growing on me. Hischier s speed and skill is off the charts. but when the post season gets rough a large C is more likely to endure hard minutes against other teams physical punishment. Patrick has been widely compared to our Anaheim rival Ryan Getzlaf. if we are fortunate enough to get either of these two items would be a franchise game changer. I'm also kind of curious who Jim would take at #3 with all those options and no clear cut number one. a top 3 pick is my hope!! so exciting - glad Kass had another strong game. fun to watch him excel after working out his alcohol addiction. :D go Canada go! hopefully the concerns of Patrick's work ethic and character are not legitmate concerns. I think any kid at that age can be malleable enough to change if there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Rush17 said: hopefully the concerns of Patrick's work ethic and character are not legitmate concerns. I think any kid at that age can be malleable enough to change if there is. I have a feeling Patrick playing alongside a skilled player like Goldobin, Dahlen, etc would be a deadly combo. Edited April 17, 2017 by Odd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 @MJDDawg posted this in another thread. Looks gud, looks real gud. I'd still pick Vilardi between 3-5. He was born Aug 16th, you have to be born on or before Sept 15th to be eligible for that years draft. Based on his age you can almost measure him against the 2018 draft class. A 17 year old 6 foot 2 200 pound kid (size likely to be different as of the combine) that gets you an extra year of development isn't a consolation prize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) Would use my second round pick on Vesalainen. Was supposed to go top 10 but dropped throughout. After his poor WJ performance, his stock went down significantly. He's currently DOMINATING the U18's and leads it with 3gps 3g 5a 8pts. He played in the SHL this season (best swedish league there is) and put respectable numbers for a 17 year old who actually started playing in the SHL last year as a 16 year old. He's also fricking 6'4 210lbs. He's also got an interesting developmental path as he could either return to the SHL for a year or two and come to the AHL or go directly to the AHL next year too. Edited April 17, 2017 by Odd. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 3 hours ago, Rush17 said: the idea of a heavy 6"3 likely 6"4 C with amazing vision and skill is so tempting. the idea of Patrick is quickly growing on me. Hischier s speed and skill is off the charts. but when the post season gets rough a large C is more likely to endure hard minutes against other teams physical punishment. Patrick has been widely compared to our Anaheim rival Ryan Getzlaf. if we are fortunate enough to get either of these two items would be a franchise game changer. I'm also kind of curious who Jim would take at #3 with all those options and no clear cut number one. a top 3 pick is my hope!! so exciting - glad Kass had another strong game. fun to watch him excel after working out his alcohol addiction. :D go Canada go! I'm on team Patrick too. Hischeir is tempting but if we get the first pick, but I want the big western Canadian kid. Im thinking even if we draft 2 Hischeir's, we're not going to out skill the coilers. I'd like to see us build the heavy, wear you down over 7 games, type team. It doesn't mean we won't score or have skill. We'll just have multiple 50-75 point guys instead of 1 or 2 100 point guys. It's only a matter of time before Mcjesus starts raising the cup. I think if we want to steal one from him in his prime, we're going to have to beat him up and take it from him. 2 big strong centers at 1 and 2 will help us achieve that with our towering Russian on the blueline. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieBush Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) 15 hours ago, Horvat is a Boss said: The only players who can accurately be labelled soft are Baertschi, Granlund and Goldobin. 2 I don't even think you can call Granny or Baer soft. They go into corners fight for the puck, and show grit doing it. And they both have a little bit of edge to them. Edited April 17, 2017 by ReggieBush 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 10 hours ago, baumerman77 said: Does everyone know something I don't about Necas because he doesn't look like a top 10 pick to me. I remember he did well at the WJC but his numbers don't scream top 10 neither do the highlights of seen of him. dude is playing in a the highest level league in in the Czech league. he's as good as it gets, and the the next best forward after Nico/ Nolan. heres my source on how they think Vilardi is. As you can see he is ranked very low. He's nowhere near the top in offensive forwards. they have at least 7 other players who think they are a better player then him. give it up guys, Vilardi and MIttelstadt will not be drafted in the top 5. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 1 minute ago, MoneypuckOverlord said: dude is playing in a the highest level league in in the Czech league. he's as good as it gets, and the the next best forward after Nico/ Nolan. heres my source on how they think Vilardi is. As you can see he is ranked very low. He's nowhere near the top in offensive forwards. they have at least 7 other players who think they are a better player then him. give it up guys, Vilardi and MIttelstadt will not be drafted in the top 5. Or, that's them scratching off players they're not interested in and the 6 they want being in the top 5 in the eventuality someone goes off the board. My source said so 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 18 minutes ago, ReggieBush said: I don't even think you can call Granny or Baer soft. They go into corners fight for the puck, and show grit doing it. And they both have a little bit of edge to them. Especially Granlund. He's anything but soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, MoneypuckOverlord said: dude is playing in a the highest level league in in the Czech league. he's as good as it gets, and the the next best forward after Nico/ Nolan. heres my source on how they think Vilardi is. As you can see he is ranked very low. He's nowhere near the top in offensive forwards. they have at least 7 other players who think they are a better player then him. give it up guys, Vilardi and MIttelstadt will not be drafted in the top 5. K well when your wrong about Vilardi and he goes top 5 can I say I told you so? You don't pass on a kid with his size and work ethic. He also has skill and high IQ. He's also almost 2018 eligible. His only knock is his skating and it's not even that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Herberts Vasiljevs said: Especially Granlund. He's anything but soft. He's not soft but hes not going to intimidate anyone. We need a few bigger guys in the line up besides Horvat and Jake. Patrick/Vilardi fit that bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, messier's_elbow said: He's not soft but hes not going to intimidate anyone. We need a few bigger guys in the line up besides Horvat and Jake. Patrick/Vilardi fit that bill. I agree that he won't intimidate anyone, but he's not soft in the way that Danny Briere wasn't soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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