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1 hour ago, messier's_elbow said:

Ok well I like how your a Vilardi guy,but I disagree. If our 5th overall and the Torts 2nd guaranteed us Vilardi I'd make the sacrifice. Vilardi has Getzlaf potential minus the mean streak. I think he will be the best player in the draft. 

I agree with you absolutely about Vilardi!  I just think that there are several other players who also could be amazing and it's close enough that a second round pick is overkill.

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On 2017-5-29 at 11:02 AM, Rob_Zepp said:

The fixation with points on this board is bizarre.   Look at one of the teams in the SCF this year - their leading scorers just barely got 60 points.  Does Chicago have a "front line center"?    Oh yeah, some guy named Toews who had 6 more points than Bo and couldn't crack 60 points.    

 

This pick by Vancouver should look at overall organizational depth which is currently weakest on the back end if you project out a few  years.   At the same time, if a player like Glass is available it is tough to pass.   

 

Again, using point and/or comparing another drafted player's statistics for their first couple of years to slag another player is simply nuts.   Until a player has either been in the league five years or truly shown they will not make the leap to the NHL, comparisons are at best mildly amusing.   Hockey is a team sport and the best teams win - not what looks best on a comparison of statistics.   

I'm looking. It's not pretty. 

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Bearing any trades: the players I'd personally like us to select are:

 

5th overall:  C/LW Casey Mittlestadt

http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats.php?player=300831

33rd overall: C Robert Thomas

http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats.php?player=201681

55th overall: RHD Artyom Minulin (High risk, high reward)

http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats.php?player=312207

64th overall:  LW Jonah Gadjovich (might slip from the 2nd round)

http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats_small.php?player=252476

95th overall: G Micheal DiPietro (begging he falls)

113th overall: Ivan Chekhovich (could be the next Kucherov)

http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats_small.php?player=333786

 

From 5th round and on i don't care who we pick. 

 

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26 minutes ago, Odd. said:

Bearing any trades: the players I'd personally like us to select are:

 

5th overall:  C/LW Casey Mittlestadt

http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats.php?player=300831

33rd overall: C Robert Thomas

http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats.php?player=201681

55th overall: RHD Artyom Minulin (High risk, high reward)

http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats.php?player=312207

64th overall:  LW Jonah Gadjovich (might slip from the 2nd round)

http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats_small.php?player=252476

95th overall: G Micheal DiPietro (begging he falls)

113th overall: Ivan Chekhovich (could be the next Kucherov)

http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats_small.php?player=333786

 

From 5th round and on i don't care who we pick. 

 

List is a lot like mine except in the 2nd rounds I wanted Yamamoto and Chmelevski. I do like Robert Thomas a lot as a prospect but just don't see him making it to our 2nd rounder.

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32 minutes ago, Odd. said:

Bearing any trades: the players I'd personally like us to select are:

 

5th overall:  C/LW Casey Mittlestadt

http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats.php?player=300831

33rd overall: C Robert Thomas

http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats.php?player=201681

55th overall: RHD Artyom Minulin (High risk, high reward)

http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats.php?player=312207

64th overall:  LW Jonah Gadjovich (might slip from the 2nd round)

http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats_small.php?player=252476

95th overall: G Micheal DiPietro (begging he falls)

113th overall: Ivan Chekhovich (could be the next Kucherov)

http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats_small.php?player=333786

 

From 5th round and on i don't care who we pick. 

 

Robert Thomas will probably get drafted in the 15-20 range if not higher. 

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2 minutes ago, TheHitman said:

Robert Thomas will probably get drafted in the 15-20 range if not higher. 

 

5 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said:

List is a lot like mine except in the 2nd rounds I wanted Yamamoto and Chmelevski. I do like Robert Thomas a lot as a prospect but just don't see him making it to our 2nd rounder.

eh, our 33rd pick is basically anyone that could potentially fall from the 1st round. Thomas, Yamamoto, Timmins, Norris, etc. 

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Just now, Odd. said:

 

eh, our 33rd pick is basically anyone that falls from the 1st round. Thomas, Yamamoto, Timmins, Norris, etc. 

Yamamoto is probably the most probable to slide out of the first round out of that bunch just off size. Think DeBrincat and Abramov last year. Both guys I thought were first round talents.

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1 minute ago, flickyoursedin said:

I'm praying for a Tanev trade at the draft. The idea of getting another pick around the 10 spot would be great. You'd be getting one of Necas, Glass, Pettersson, Liljigren or Makar. Couple that with whom ever we get at 5 if it's Mittelstadt or Vilardi!

Tanev to PHX for their top pick makes sense. PHX have abundant amount of pieces and the last thing they need is another forward/defensive prospect. A guy like Tanev, 26, one of the best shutdown defenseman in the league and has a good contract. Not only does he bring great leadership skills but his defensive prowess is much needed there. Don't need to elaborate further. 

 

If we can come away with Mittlestadt AND Liljegren, I would be extremely ecstatic. Not only do they address our problems but we would then have a legitimate talented prospect pool and our "rebuild", "re-tool" "transitioning period" whatever you want to call it, is that much faster. 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, 73 Percent said:

Agreed. I don't know what mock draft he was reading. Kings mock draft maybe lol.

yeah I don't know what I was thinking saying I saw Glass being selected by the Kings in a mock draft....  yeah it must have been a Kings mock draft that's it...  what an absolutely dumb thing of me to say....  I must faithfully follow all of these websites and believe everything they are predicting!  lol

 

http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2017/5/1/15499414/2017-nhl-mock-draft-devils-nolan-patrick-nico-hischier-flyers-stars-avalanche-lottery

 

http://www.thedraftanalyst.com/mock-drafts/2017-nhl-mock-draft-may/

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8 minutes ago, messier's_elbow said:

I think Foote will go quite high. A big Dman like him in a weak draft will be coveted. 

Yup I feel like he'll go 12-15ish. Slim chances of getting him

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2 hours ago, messier's_elbow said:

I think Foote will go quite high. A big Dman like him in a weak draft will be coveted. 

McKeen's has Foote at 30 which I think is far too low. Liljegren at 20 is way low as well but the rest of the list looks pretty solid imo:

 

McKeen’s 2017 NHL Draft Rankings – Top 31 – May 31st, 2017

 

https://www.mckeenshockey.com/nhl-blog/mckeens-2017-nhl-draft-rankings-top-31-31st-2017/

 

 

RANK PLAYER POS TEAM HT/WT DOB Nation
1 Nolan Patrick C Brandon (WHL) 6-2/200 19-Sep-98 Canada
2 Nico Hischier C Halifax (QMJHL) 6-1/175 4-Jan-99 Switzerland
3 Miro Heiskanen D HIFK Helsinki (Fin) 6-0/170 18-Jul-99 Finland
4 Gabriel Vilardi C Windsor (OHL) 6-3/200 16-Aug-99 Canada
5 Casey Mittelstadt C Eden Prairie (USHS-MN) 6-1/200 22-Nov-98 USA
6 Owen Tippett RW Mississauga (OHL) 6-1/200 16-Feb-99 Canada
7 Cale Makar D Brooks (AJHL) 5-11/180 30-Oct-98 Canada
8 Cody Glass C Portland (WHL) 6-2/180 1-Apr-99 Canada
9 Kristian Vesalainen LW Frolunda (Swe) 6-3/205 1-Jun-99 Finland
10 Michael Rasmussen C Tri-City (WHL) 6-6/215 17-Apr-99 Canada
11 Elias Pettersson C Timra (Swe 2) 6-2/165 12-Nov-98 Sweden
12 Martin Necas C Kometa Brno (Cze) 6-0/170 15-Jan-99 Czech
13 Urho Vaakanainen D JyP Jyvaskyla (Fin) 6-0/185 1-Jan-99 Finland
14 Juuso Valimaki D Tri-City (WHL) 6-2/205 6-Oct-98 Finland
15 Robert Thomas C London (OHL) 6-0/190 2-Jul-99 Canada
16 Nick Suzuki C Owen Sound (OHL) 5-11/185 10-Sep-99 Canada
17 Lias Andersson C HV 71 (Swe) 5-11/200 13-Oct-98 Sweden
18 Isaac Ratcliffe LW Guelph (OHL) 6-5/200 15-Feb-99 Canada
19 Erik Brannstrom D HV 71 (Swe) 5-10/175 2-Sep-99 Sweden
20 Timothy Liljegren D Rogle (Swe) 6-0/190 30-Apr-99 Sweden
21 Klim Kostin C Dynamo Moscow (Rus) 6-3/195 5-May-99 Russia
22 Eeli Tolvanen RW Sioux City (USHL) 5-10/175 22-Apr-99 Finland
23 Conor Timmins D Sault Ste Marie (OHL) 6-1/185 18-Sep-98 Canada
24 Kailer Yamamoto RW Spokane (WHL) 5-8/160 29-Sep-98 Canada
25 Jason Robertson LW Kingston (OHL) 6-2/195 22-Jul-99 USA
26 Ryan Poehling C St. Cloud State (NCHC) 6-2/195 3-Jan-99 USA
27 Nicolas Hague D Mississauga (OHL) 6-6/215 5-Dec-98 Canada
28 Josh Norris C NTDP (USA) 6-1/195 5-May-99 USA
29 Shane Bowers C Waterloo (USHL) 6-1/185 30-Jul-99 Canada
30 Cal Foote D Kelowna (WHL) 6-4/215 13-Dec-98 USA
31 Henri Jokiharju D Portland (WHL) 6-0/180 17-Jun-99 Finland
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14 hours ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said:

....Nico with a meeting?  ....JB must be trying to move up otherwise why bother?

Maybe if a trade became available in 2-3 years time.... You never know whats around the corner.

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If I were the Canucks, this would be my 2 most ideal drafts:

 

2017 DRAFT

'A'

'B'

5th

Casey Mitteslstadt - C

Gabe Vilardi - C

33rd

Conor Timmins - D

Robert Thomas - C/RW/LW

55th

Josh Brook - D

Max Gildon - D

64th

Ivan Chekhovich - LW

Filip Westerlund - D

95th

Robbie Stucker - D

Evan Barratt- C

113rd

Fabian Zetterlund - LW/RW

Maksim Zhukov - G

188th

Saku Vesterinen - D

Hunter Lellig - D

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1 hour ago, DudePerfect said:

If I were the Canucks, this would be my ideal draft:

5th

CASEY MITTELSTADT - C

33rd

CONOR TIMMINS - D

55th

JOSH BROOK - D

64th

IVAN CHEKHOVICH - LW

95th

ROBBIE STUCKER - D

113rd

FABIAN ZETTERLUND - LW/RW

126th

YAROSLAV ALEXEYEV - RW

157th

SKYLER BRIND'AMOUR - C

188th

SAKU VESTERINEN - D

 

I like some of your choices but I think Jimmy traded away picks 126 and 157.

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6 hours ago, Sugar baby watermelon said:

yeah I don't know what I was thinking saying I saw Glass being selected by the Kings in a mock draft....  yeah it must have been a Kings mock draft that's it...  what an absolutely dumb thing of me to say....  I must faithfully follow all of these websites and believe everything they are predicting!  lol

 

http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2017/5/1/15499414/2017-nhl-mock-draft-devils-nolan-patrick-nico-hischier-flyers-stars-avalanche-lottery

 

http://www.thedraftanalyst.com/mock-drafts/2017-nhl-mock-draft-may/

Relax man. Twas joke. Would you  be happier if I said I'd bet 200$ glass goes top 10?

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