Baratheon Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 1 hour ago, messier's_elbow said: Ok well I like how your a Vilardi guy,but I disagree. If our 5th overall and the Torts 2nd guaranteed us Vilardi I'd make the sacrifice. Vilardi has Getzlaf potential minus the mean streak. I think he will be the best player in the draft. I agree with you absolutely about Vilardi! I just think that there are several other players who also could be amazing and it's close enough that a second round pick is overkill. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 On 2017-5-29 at 11:02 AM, Rob_Zepp said: The fixation with points on this board is bizarre. Look at one of the teams in the SCF this year - their leading scorers just barely got 60 points. Does Chicago have a "front line center"? Oh yeah, some guy named Toews who had 6 more points than Bo and couldn't crack 60 points. This pick by Vancouver should look at overall organizational depth which is currently weakest on the back end if you project out a few years. At the same time, if a player like Glass is available it is tough to pass. Again, using point and/or comparing another drafted player's statistics for their first couple of years to slag another player is simply nuts. Until a player has either been in the league five years or truly shown they will not make the leap to the NHL, comparisons are at best mildly amusing. Hockey is a team sport and the best teams win - not what looks best on a comparison of statistics. I'm looking. It's not pretty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) Bearing any trades: the players I'd personally like us to select are: 5th overall: C/LW Casey Mittlestadt http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats.php?player=300831 33rd overall: C Robert Thomas http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats.php?player=201681 55th overall: RHD Artyom Minulin (High risk, high reward) http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats.php?player=312207 64th overall: LW Jonah Gadjovich (might slip from the 2nd round) http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats_small.php?player=252476 95th overall: G Micheal DiPietro (begging he falls) 113th overall: Ivan Chekhovich (could be the next Kucherov) http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats_small.php?player=333786 From 5th round and on i don't care who we pick. Edited June 1, 2017 by Odd. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 26 minutes ago, Odd. said: Bearing any trades: the players I'd personally like us to select are: 5th overall: C/LW Casey Mittlestadt http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats.php?player=300831 33rd overall: C Robert Thomas http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats.php?player=201681 55th overall: RHD Artyom Minulin (High risk, high reward) http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats.php?player=312207 64th overall: LW Jonah Gadjovich (might slip from the 2nd round) http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats_small.php?player=252476 95th overall: G Micheal DiPietro (begging he falls) 113th overall: Ivan Chekhovich (could be the next Kucherov) http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats_small.php?player=333786 From 5th round and on i don't care who we pick. List is a lot like mine except in the 2nd rounds I wanted Yamamoto and Chmelevski. I do like Robert Thomas a lot as a prospect but just don't see him making it to our 2nd rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHitman Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 32 minutes ago, Odd. said: Bearing any trades: the players I'd personally like us to select are: 5th overall: C/LW Casey Mittlestadt http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats.php?player=300831 33rd overall: C Robert Thomas http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats.php?player=201681 55th overall: RHD Artyom Minulin (High risk, high reward) http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats.php?player=312207 64th overall: LW Jonah Gadjovich (might slip from the 2nd round) http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats_small.php?player=252476 95th overall: G Micheal DiPietro (begging he falls) 113th overall: Ivan Chekhovich (could be the next Kucherov) http://www.eliteprospects.com/iframe_player_stats_small.php?player=333786 From 5th round and on i don't care who we pick. Robert Thomas will probably get drafted in the 15-20 range if not higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 I'm praying for a Tanev trade at the draft. The idea of getting another pick around the 10 spot would be great. You'd be getting one of Necas, Glass, Pettersson, Liljigren or Makar. Couple that with whom ever we get at 5 if it's Mittelstadt or Vilardi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TheHitman said: Robert Thomas will probably get drafted in the 15-20 range if not higher. 5 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said: List is a lot like mine except in the 2nd rounds I wanted Yamamoto and Chmelevski. I do like Robert Thomas a lot as a prospect but just don't see him making it to our 2nd rounder. eh, our 33rd pick is basically anyone that could potentially fall from the 1st round. Thomas, Yamamoto, Timmins, Norris, etc. Edited June 1, 2017 by Odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, Odd. said: eh, our 33rd pick is basically anyone that falls from the 1st round. Thomas, Yamamoto, Timmins, Norris, etc. Yamamoto is probably the most probable to slide out of the first round out of that bunch just off size. Think DeBrincat and Abramov last year. Both guys I thought were first round talents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 1 minute ago, flickyoursedin said: I'm praying for a Tanev trade at the draft. The idea of getting another pick around the 10 spot would be great. You'd be getting one of Necas, Glass, Pettersson, Liljigren or Makar. Couple that with whom ever we get at 5 if it's Mittelstadt or Vilardi! Tanev to PHX for their top pick makes sense. PHX have abundant amount of pieces and the last thing they need is another forward/defensive prospect. A guy like Tanev, 26, one of the best shutdown defenseman in the league and has a good contract. Not only does he bring great leadership skills but his defensive prowess is much needed there. Don't need to elaborate further. If we can come away with Mittlestadt AND Liljegren, I would be extremely ecstatic. Not only do they address our problems but we would then have a legitimate talented prospect pool and our "rebuild", "re-tool" "transitioning period" whatever you want to call it, is that much faster. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar baby watermelon Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, 73 Percent said: Agreed. I don't know what mock draft he was reading. Kings mock draft maybe lol. yeah I don't know what I was thinking saying I saw Glass being selected by the Kings in a mock draft.... yeah it must have been a Kings mock draft that's it... what an absolutely dumb thing of me to say.... I must faithfully follow all of these websites and believe everything they are predicting! lol http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2017/5/1/15499414/2017-nhl-mock-draft-devils-nolan-patrick-nico-hischier-flyers-stars-avalanche-lottery http://www.thedraftanalyst.com/mock-drafts/2017-nhl-mock-draft-may/ Edited June 1, 2017 by Sugar baby watermelon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Nancouver said: Oh I'm not saying foote will be there in the 2nd at all. I'm saying package both our 2nds for a mid 1st and pick foote. I think Foote will go quite high. A big Dman like him in a weak draft will be coveted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nancouver Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, messier's_elbow said: I think Foote will go quite high. A big Dman like him in a weak draft will be coveted. Yup I feel like he'll go 12-15ish. Slim chances of getting him Edited June 1, 2017 by Nancouver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Jake Leschyshyn could be a great pick in the 3rd round. Top prospect getting buried by older talents like Steele and Brooks. Put up 40 points in 47 games. I think he could be a hidden gem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Drogo Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 1 hour ago, messier's_elbow said: I think Foote will go quite high. A big Dman like him in a weak draft will be coveted. I wonder if Sakic is tempted to trade down and take Adam Foote's son. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 2 hours ago, messier's_elbow said: I think Foote will go quite high. A big Dman like him in a weak draft will be coveted. McKeen's has Foote at 30 which I think is far too low. Liljegren at 20 is way low as well but the rest of the list looks pretty solid imo: McKeen’s 2017 NHL Draft Rankings – Top 31 – May 31st, 2017 https://www.mckeenshockey.com/nhl-blog/mckeens-2017-nhl-draft-rankings-top-31-31st-2017/ RANK PLAYER POS TEAM HT/WT DOB Nation 1 Nolan Patrick C Brandon (WHL) 6-2/200 19-Sep-98 Canada 2 Nico Hischier C Halifax (QMJHL) 6-1/175 4-Jan-99 Switzerland 3 Miro Heiskanen D HIFK Helsinki (Fin) 6-0/170 18-Jul-99 Finland 4 Gabriel Vilardi C Windsor (OHL) 6-3/200 16-Aug-99 Canada 5 Casey Mittelstadt C Eden Prairie (USHS-MN) 6-1/200 22-Nov-98 USA 6 Owen Tippett RW Mississauga (OHL) 6-1/200 16-Feb-99 Canada 7 Cale Makar D Brooks (AJHL) 5-11/180 30-Oct-98 Canada 8 Cody Glass C Portland (WHL) 6-2/180 1-Apr-99 Canada 9 Kristian Vesalainen LW Frolunda (Swe) 6-3/205 1-Jun-99 Finland 10 Michael Rasmussen C Tri-City (WHL) 6-6/215 17-Apr-99 Canada 11 Elias Pettersson C Timra (Swe 2) 6-2/165 12-Nov-98 Sweden 12 Martin Necas C Kometa Brno (Cze) 6-0/170 15-Jan-99 Czech 13 Urho Vaakanainen D JyP Jyvaskyla (Fin) 6-0/185 1-Jan-99 Finland 14 Juuso Valimaki D Tri-City (WHL) 6-2/205 6-Oct-98 Finland 15 Robert Thomas C London (OHL) 6-0/190 2-Jul-99 Canada 16 Nick Suzuki C Owen Sound (OHL) 5-11/185 10-Sep-99 Canada 17 Lias Andersson C HV 71 (Swe) 5-11/200 13-Oct-98 Sweden 18 Isaac Ratcliffe LW Guelph (OHL) 6-5/200 15-Feb-99 Canada 19 Erik Brannstrom D HV 71 (Swe) 5-10/175 2-Sep-99 Sweden 20 Timothy Liljegren D Rogle (Swe) 6-0/190 30-Apr-99 Sweden 21 Klim Kostin C Dynamo Moscow (Rus) 6-3/195 5-May-99 Russia 22 Eeli Tolvanen RW Sioux City (USHL) 5-10/175 22-Apr-99 Finland 23 Conor Timmins D Sault Ste Marie (OHL) 6-1/185 18-Sep-98 Canada 24 Kailer Yamamoto RW Spokane (WHL) 5-8/160 29-Sep-98 Canada 25 Jason Robertson LW Kingston (OHL) 6-2/195 22-Jul-99 USA 26 Ryan Poehling C St. Cloud State (NCHC) 6-2/195 3-Jan-99 USA 27 Nicolas Hague D Mississauga (OHL) 6-6/215 5-Dec-98 Canada 28 Josh Norris C NTDP (USA) 6-1/195 5-May-99 USA 29 Shane Bowers C Waterloo (USHL) 6-1/185 30-Jul-99 Canada 30 Cal Foote D Kelowna (WHL) 6-4/215 13-Dec-98 USA 31 Henri Jokiharju D Portland (WHL) 6-0/180 17-Jun-99 Finland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 14 hours ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: ....Nico with a meeting? ....JB must be trying to move up otherwise why bother? Maybe if a trade became available in 2-3 years time.... You never know whats around the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DudePerfect Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) If I were the Canucks, this would be my 2 most ideal drafts: 2017 DRAFT 'A' 'B' 5th Casey Mitteslstadt - C Gabe Vilardi - C 33rd Conor Timmins - D Robert Thomas - C/RW/LW 55th Josh Brook - D Max Gildon - D 64th Ivan Chekhovich - LW Filip Westerlund - D 95th Robbie Stucker - D Evan Barratt- C 113rd Fabian Zetterlund - LW/RW Maksim Zhukov - G 188th Saku Vesterinen - D Hunter Lellig - D Edited June 1, 2017 by DudePerfect 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 There is another Virtanen available this year: Santeri Virtanen https://www.draftsite.com/nhl/player/santeri-virtanen/23911/ http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=283531 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 1 hour ago, DudePerfect said: If I were the Canucks, this would be my ideal draft: 5th CASEY MITTELSTADT - C 33rd CONOR TIMMINS - D 55th JOSH BROOK - D 64th IVAN CHEKHOVICH - LW 95th ROBBIE STUCKER - D 113rd FABIAN ZETTERLUND - LW/RW 126th YAROSLAV ALEXEYEV - RW 157th SKYLER BRIND'AMOUR - C 188th SAKU VESTERINEN - D I like some of your choices but I think Jimmy traded away picks 126 and 157. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 6 hours ago, Sugar baby watermelon said: yeah I don't know what I was thinking saying I saw Glass being selected by the Kings in a mock draft.... yeah it must have been a Kings mock draft that's it... what an absolutely dumb thing of me to say.... I must faithfully follow all of these websites and believe everything they are predicting! lol http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2017/5/1/15499414/2017-nhl-mock-draft-devils-nolan-patrick-nico-hischier-flyers-stars-avalanche-lottery http://www.thedraftanalyst.com/mock-drafts/2017-nhl-mock-draft-may/ Relax man. Twas joke. Would you be happier if I said I'd bet 200$ glass goes top 10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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