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38 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said:

No when Lebrun asked him. He basically shrugged it off and said. Maybe but probably not.  Lebrun was the one that brought it up. He was basically going into the interview with pre loaded ammo to help build a story. 

Definitely agree with you on that one and that is where all this talk on TSN 1040 went with speculation on trading up and got everyone in Canuck land all excited.

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2 hours ago, Sugar baby watermelon said:

Definitely agree with you on that one and that is where all this talk on TSN 1040 went with speculation on trading up and got everyone in Canuck land all excited.

I think potential trades with ARZ, BUF or TBL for their picks are far more likely frankly.

 

As for DAL, I would not be opposed to taking Lehtonen off their hands for their ANA 1st (+?) but I'm not so sure I see us moving up to 3rd OA. It's possible certainly but I'm guessing they're going to want to much for what is basically the same value as our 5th (or ARZ/BUF's picks).

 

If they'll do it for Edler and taking one of their goalies...sure.

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5 minutes ago, J.R. said:

I think potential trades with ARZ, BUF or TBL for their picks are far more likely frankly.

 

As for DAL, I would not be opposed to taking Lehtonen off their hands for their ANA 1st (+?) but I'm not so sure I see us moving up to 3rd OA. It's possible certainly but I'm guessing they're going to want to much for what is basically the same value as our 5th (or ARZ/BUF's picks).

 

If they'll do it for Edler and taking one of their goalies...sure.

1040 was just speculating Tanev + 33 or 55 for that 3rd pick now.  Earlier they had Jake and 33 in their proposal.

Would we do Tanev + 55 for 3rd overall and Niemi?  Does that sound at all fair?

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2 minutes ago, Alflives said:

1040 was just speculating Tanev + 33 or 55 for that 3rd pick now.  Earlier they had Jake and 33 in their proposal.

Would we do Tanev + 55 for 3rd overall and Niemi?  Does that sound at all fair?

sounds like a heist.  Dallas can sweat out offers though until draft show then make a call last min.  they could play chicken:)

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3 minutes ago, Alflives said:

1040 was just speculating Tanev + 33 or 55 for that 3rd pick now.  Earlier they had Jake and 33 in their proposal.

Would we do Tanev + 55 for 3rd overall and Niemi?  Does that sound at all fair?

I think that sound pretty fair, they get their RHD lose a bad contact and get a second round pick, and we get hopefully a #1 center in a few years time 

 

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12 minutes ago, BO_Scorvat said:

I think that sound pretty fair, they get their RHD lose a bad contact and get a second round pick, and we get hopefully a #1 center in a few years time 

 

Overpay IMO. They can have Edler and we take back a goalie or Tanev straight across. 

 

At most I add our CBJ 2nd to either of those.

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9 minutes ago, BO_Scorvat said:

I think that sound pretty fair, they get their RHD lose a bad contact and get a second round pick, and we get hopefully a #1 center in a few years time 

 

Expect they doesn't really need a RHD.  They already have Klingberg and Honka,  They need a LHD.

 

We offer Tanev,  CBJ offers Murray and Korpisalo

We offer Tanev, ANA offers Fowler

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Just now, ForsbergTheGreat said:

Expect they doesn't really need a RHD.  They already have Klingberg and Honka,  They need a LHD.

 

We offer Tanev,  CBJ offers Murray and Korpisalo

We offer Tanev, ANA offers Fowler

What would you suggest we do then?

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3 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said:

Expect they doesn't really need a RHD.  They already have Klingberg and Honka,  They need a LHD.

 

We offer Tanev,  CBJ offers Murray and Korpisalo

We offer Tanev, ANA offers Fowler

Will either of those two teams take back Niemi though?  

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3 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said:

I don't think we have the assets for the 3rd overall without a swap of picks, I'd do the Edler for the ANA pick. 

 

or i'd even be up for

Rodin (rights) for Niemi + 49th overall

I'd certainly consider both those deals. If we can nab a 1st for Edler.

 

Assuming that everybody's on the same page in terms of tanking out next year, that still leaves a pretty significant trade chip in Tanev. What would you do with him, considering that his no-trade kicks in this offseason?

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31 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said:

Expect they doesn't really need a RHD.  They already have Klingberg and Honka,  They need a LHD.

 

We offer Tanev,  CBJ offers Murray and Korpisalo

We offer Tanev, ANA offers Fowler

I'd actually be interested to see if we couldn't pry one of their ED risk D's for ED safe Hutton. We'd have to move one of Edler/Tanev ahead of the ED then though.

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Nothing wrong with picking #5. Sure, it would be nice to ensure getting Vilardi at #3, but they could still get him at #5 (unlikely, but possible). Seeing as PHI really lucked out getting the #2 and don't need a C, maybe this is the pick they should target. We would get either Hischier or Patrick. Go big.

 

to PHI: Tanev, Baertschi and #33

to VAN: #2

 

#2 - Patrick/Hischier

#5 - Makar 

 

Seems unlikely, but not the end of the world if it doesn't happen. The Canucks will still get a good player at #5. I'm hoping for either Vilardi or Mittelstadt.

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19 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Will either of those two teams take back Niemi though?  

Well, thats only to RHd. Have you seen there 3rd and 4th Red they are terrible is a complete understatement? They were 29th in goals against last year, and some say they are one maybe 2 shutdown d from being serious contenders. T he Stars need Tanev like we need A first line centre. Nobody else via trade or free agency is even close to what Tanev brings. 

That being said The difference between 3rd and 2nd is pretty big. Looking at the Flyers roster Their window is closing, tho not as fast as Dallas, Philly absolute   needs A guy like Tanev They have no real need to draft A centre with Giroud Schenn Couturier and Khonecky, anhdI think A trade involving Tanev our 33rd our 5and A Mac as A cash dump makes them a playoff team next year The 2nd pick doesn't

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21 minutes ago, J.R. said:

I'd actually be interested to see if we couldn't pry one of their ED risk D's for ED safe Hutton. We'd have to move one of Edler/Tanev ahead of the ED then though.

Yes if we move hutton, Sbisa would need to be protected in expansion so a edler, tanev deal would be a must.  But the problem is, the market is going to be flooded with teams trying to get some value for one of their potential exposed D so im not sure if it's the right timing to try and pull something like that off. 

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4 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said:

Yes if we move hutton, Sbisa would need to be protected in expansion so a edler, tanev deal would be a must.  But the problem is, the market is going to be flooded with teams trying to get some value for one of their potential exposed D so im not sure if it's the right timing to try and pull something like that off. 

Naah, I'm figuring we'd still lose Sbisa.

 

We'd be protecting Edler, Fowler(?), Gudbranson.

 

A lot would hinge on what the market would be for Tanev ahead of the ED would ARZ (who could easily protect him) be interested for say their 7th...? Edler + to DAL for their 3rd?

 

Edler, Stecher

Fowler, Gudbranson

Holm, McEneny/Biega/UFA etc

 

 

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2 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said:

Yes if we move hutton, Sbisa would need to be protected in expansion so a edler, tanev deal would be a must.  But the problem is, the market is going to be flooded with teams trying to get some value for one of their potential exposed D so im not sure if it's the right timing to try and pull something like that off. 

Isn't HItch now the Dallas coach?  Doesn't that mean they are all in next season?  Considering his desire to play a defensive style, wouldn't they much prefer Tanev over the options you suggested?

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23 minutes ago, J.R. said:

I'd actually be interested to see if we couldn't pry one of their ED risk D's for ED safe Hutton. We'd have to move one of Edler/Tanev ahead of the ED then though.

 

52 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said:

I don't think we have the assets for the 3rd overall without a swap of picks, I'd do the Edler for the ANA pick. 

 

or i'd even be up for

Rodin (rights) for Niemi + 49th overall

Have you even bothered to look at Dallas depth on the right side? its one of the most terrible in the league. Hence why they were 9th in foals against,Klingburg is A stud Wh o took A step back last year due to the partner eh Maybe A deal involving Edler and tTanev plus us taking back their goalies . who they cant afford to buy out both as they are right against the cap. As I've said before tho Philly makes way more sense since they only have one RHD and he is overpaid and sucks and would probably be part of any deal to acquire the 2nd Cheers

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10 minutes ago, J.R. said:

Naah, I'm figuring we'd still lose Sbisa.

 

We'd be protecting Edler, Fowler(?), Gudbranson.

 

A lot would hinge on what the market would be for Tanev ahead of the ED would ARZ (who could easily protect him) be interested for say their 7th...? Edler + to DAL for their 3rd?

 

Edler, Stecher

Fowler, Gudbranson

Holm, McEneny/Biega/UFA etc

 

 

That only makes sense if you are getting back a low value player, like a Garrison type,  Fowler would cost more than we would be getting back for moving Tanev/Edler. 

 

Why wouldn't ducks just move fowler to DAL for the 3rd overall,  Fills there need much better than what we can offer

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