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53 minutes ago, Salmonberries said:

The Glass is half empty shall we say.

 

Pettersson is probably the skinniest hockey player I have ever seen.

 

So no, not a huge fan of either pick, at least not in the five hole this year.

I don't know a whole lot about Pettersson but if he can produce points at 150lbs, I'd think adding another 35-40 of the right kind of weight couldn't hurt. Once again, I know absolutely nothing about this kid.

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14 minutes ago, Pepe Silvia said:

I don't know a whole lot about Pettersson but if he can produce points at 150lbs, I'd think adding another 35-40 of the right kind of weight couldn't hurt. Once again, I know absolutely nothing about this kid.

When you're an 18 year old ectomorph, weighing in at 150-160lbs, adding another 40 pounds in 2-3 years is going to be almost impossible. Pettersson doesn't look like he will be able to physically withstand the rigours of the NHL, which is why I'd stay away from him.

 

I mean, why take a chance on Pettersson when you can take a shot at Vilardi, Glass or Mittlestadt?

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Timra IK (Swedish League)

 

Jonathan Dahlen (LW) 25-19= 44 points in 45 games (5'11" 175)

Elias Pettersson (C) 19-21= 40 points in 43 games (6'0" 160)

 

pretty similar ppg averages, and physical statures, Pettersson needs to put on a few though.

 

The third player on that line, Jens Looke (RW), was drafted by ARI in 2015 (#83). He doesn't have the stats that Dahlen and Pettersson have though.

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5 minutes ago, nowhereman said:

When you're an 18 year old ectomorph, weighing in at 150-160lbs, adding another 40 pounds in 2-3 years is going to be almost impossible. Pettersson doesn't look like he will be able to physically withstand the rigours of the NHL, which is why I'd stay away from him.

 

I mean, why take a chance on Pettersson when you can take a shot at Vilardi, Glass or Mittlestadt?

Adding that kind of weight isn't realistic in 2-3 years. Maybe 4 or 5. Who knows? Everyones different.

 

I'm not suggesting we draft him at 5. I'm just trying to say it's impressive he's able to compete and excel at the weight he's at now, and adding size will only make things easier for him. I would much prefer Vilardi, Glass or Mittlestadt. I wouldn't be surprised if this is a guy people forget about until he's 23 and matured. 

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1 minute ago, Hutton Wink said:

Probably just due diligence, but if we hear more rumblings of Necas and Pettersson it may well indicate that Benning wants a speed-and-skill C to complement Horvat.

Just to be clear you mean on a separate line correct?

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15 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said:

Probably just due diligence, but if we hear more rumblings of Necas and Pettersson it may well indicate that Benning wants a speed-and-skill C to complement Horvat.

It also may indicate that JB is considering trading for another 1st round pick somewhere between 6 and 15. Which would likely please almost everyone, at least until he makes the picks.

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34 minutes ago, 73 Percent said:

Just to be clear you mean on a separate line correct?

The Horvat-Necas/Pettersson 1-2 punch!

 

11 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said:

It also may indicate that JB is considering trading for another 1st round pick somewhere between 6 and 15. Which would likely please almost everyone, at least until he makes the picks.

Oh, like taking Robert Thomas with Boston's 18th?  B)

Not a bad backup plan, should they not be able to swing a deal for another pick near the top.  They seem reluctant to move Edler or Tanev, so swapping out Sbisa is a nice XD fix as well.  Other teams looking for a good middle-six D in that range may also be interested, depending on their protection lists.

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2 hours ago, Salmonberries said:

The Glass is half empty shall we say.

 

Pettersson is probably the skinniest hockey player I have ever seen.

 

So no, not a huge fan of either pick, at least not in the five hole this year.

An ectomorph, like the Twins who cant seem to be bumped off a puck, with uncanny agility athleticism. If he can do this there is an underlying strength?  Just needs to put on enough weight he doesn't get pushed around.  

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Canuck Surfer said:

An ectomorph, like the Twins who cant seem to be bumped off a puck, with uncanny agility athleticism. If he can do this there is an underlying strength?  Just needs to put on enough weight he doesn't get pushed around.  

 

 

 

Sure but I don't recall the twins weighing 165 at draft time. I mean this kid is skinny.

 

It's a concern.

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10 minutes ago, HomeBrew said:

I don't see what Brendan Gaunce's selection in 2012 has anything to do with GM JB selecting at 5th overall in 2017...?

Not very much. Not to mention that Gaunce is probably not finished turning out yet.

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38 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said:

What scares me is if JB drafts size at C and he turns out like Gaunce

 

Drafted 26th OA (2012)

77 NHL games = 1 goal 5 assists

Vilirdi/Glass 6'2-188ish

Mittelstandt/Necas 6'1- 185ish

 

Those are the 4 centers you hear about the most with this draft in our position. None of those players are a reach due to their size vs skills ratio. If you are referring to all 6'5 of Rasmussen, I would agree with you. I don't think we need to worry about that though.

 

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1 minute ago, shayster007 said:

Vilirdi/Glass 6'2-188ish

Mittelstandt/Necas 6'1- 185ish

 

Those are the 4 centers you hear about the most with this draft in our position. None of those players are a reach due to their size vs skills ratio. If you are referring to all 6'5 of Rasmussen, I would agree with you. I don't think we need to worry about that though.

 

Vilardi and Mittelstadt are bigger than Glass and Necas. 200 vs 180.

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Just now, Salmonberries said:

Vilardi and Mittelstadt are bigger than Glass and Necas. 200 vs 180.

Just going by Elite Prospects for the time being until the updated numbers come out from the combine. If those numbers are out and you have access them I would love a link or something. Having a difficult time obtaining any information from the combine so far.

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Somebody's dropping....

 

http://www.tsn.ca/patrick-says-he-is-overcoming-two-hernia-injuries-1.768958

 

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Patrick says he is overcoming two hernia injuries

BUFFALO, N.Y. — Centre Nolan Patrick says a misdiagnosis of a sports hernia injury contributed to the NHL's top-ranked draft prospect missing more than half of last season.

 

Patrick had surgery to repair one side of his groin last summer, and now says he also required surgery to repair the other side, which was missed by initial testing. The 18-year-old says he kept quiet about the second injury during the season and decided to make the revelation while attending the NHL's draft-eligible player combine in Buffalo this week.

 

The league's central scouting department ranks Patrick as its top prospect even though he was limited to playing 33 regular-season and four post-season games for Brandon of the Western Hockey League. The 6-foot-2 Patrick finished with 20 goals and 46 points to up his junior career total to 91 goals and 204 points in 160 games.

 

Patrick is medically cleared to take part in the combine testing, which concludes Saturday.

 

Swiss-born centre Nico Hischier is ranked second. He led Quebec Major Junior Hockey League rookies with 38 goals and 86 points for Halifax.

The New Jersey Devils have the first pick and have not yet revealed who they will select in the draft being held in Chicago on June 23-24.

 

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30 minutes ago, shayster007 said:

Vilirdi/Glass 6'2-188ish

Mittelstandt/Necas 6'1- 185ish

 

Those are the 4 centers you hear about the most with this draft in our position. None of those players are a reach due to their size vs skills ratio. If you are referring to all 6'5 of Rasmussen, I would agree with you. I don't think we need to worry about that though.

 

Mittelstadt is 200+ bro

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1 hour ago, shayster007 said:

Vilirdi/Glass 6'2-188ish

Mittelstandt/Necas 6'1- 185ish

 

Those are the 4 centers you hear about the most with this draft in our position. None of those players are a reach due to their size vs skills ratio. If you are referring to all 6'5 of Rasmussen, I would agree with you. I don't think we need to worry about that though.

 

Glass 6.2 ft 190 pounds

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=179680

 

Mittlestadt 6.1 ft 201 pounds

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=192483

 

Vilardi 6.2 ft 192 pounds

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=187453

 

Necas 6 ft 167 pounds

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=194727

 

These are all as per team sites at the start of the season per player, as such will be adjusted at the combine without question but I think you'll see some serious differences in weight to them now.

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