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29 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said:

Article in the Province today about the idea of trading Tanev and our #55 to DAL for the #3. Not sure how possible that is, but it would be quite awesome if we had the #3 and the #5.

Would be a fantastic trade but it still seems pretty lopsided. With Benning stating Markstrom is the number one and we don't have a backup and lots of cap space I'd also be willing to take any goalie they want to get rid of. So Tanev + 55th for 3rd + one of Niemi or Lehtonen. With Mittelstadts poor showing I'd go with Vilardi at 3 and think about trading down a couple spots and taking who ever is left between Glass, Pettersson and Necas around 8-10.

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27 minutes ago, Vancouver FTW :D said:

Did anyone else notice that Norris and Yamamoto were in almost every top ten test? Norris usually in the top 1-5. take the combine testing as you will but that's still pretty impressive. If nothing else it shows their competitiveness. Norris' combine results remind me a lot of Jacob Chychrun.

If Norris is still around by our 2nd round pick (33OA, not the one from CBJ) I'd love for us to take him. Number 1 in peak power, both agility tests, vertical jump, and longest jump (and second in nean power) is awesome and at 6'0.5" and ~190lbs I wouldn't be too upset if he didn't get any bigger. He also lead the USDP U18 team in points this year.

 

For Yamamoto, although his fitness results are super impressive, in combination with him being below 150lbs it leads me to believe that he is already probably a gym rat and won't necessarily get much heavier. One could probably make the case for him being the most skilled player in the draft but I would be worried about his health anytime he gets hit. I'm still torn on him.

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1 hour ago, NUCKER67 said:

Mittelstadt's struggle with upper body strength is concerning. Yes he could get stronger as he gets older, but it's his lack of preparation for the combine. Also his great stats are from playing high school hockey, so makes me wonder if he could translate to the NHL easily. His skill is undeniable, but it may be years until he plays in the NHL, similar to Shinkaruk, who will be 23 in the fall and has only played 15 NHL games.

Mittlestadt also played in the USHL last year and his numbers there were really good, didn't just play high school hockey

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I think if by some miracle the Canucks get the #3 from DAL, they should draft Vilardi and Makar.

 

If they just have the #5 and Vilardi's gone, then draft Glass, I guess.

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13 hours ago, Honky Cat said:

I know that a lot of posters are laughing about this...but doing a pull up with your palms facing outward is not easy (see above)....Pulling up with palms inward is dramatically easier....In fact,I would bet most of the posters on here couldn't do a pull up either.

I can do 10 palm facing outwards and 15 palm facing inwards one set after another and either wide or narrow. I'm 5'10", under 160 lbs. (if that matters). I only go to the gym twice a week. No steroids. Pullups are not hard. If you're struggling with it, go get a weight vest and condition your arms and your back to the heavier weight.

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1 minute ago, vinny_in_vancouver said:

I can do 10 palm facing outwards and 15 palm facing inwards one set after another and either wide or narrow. I'm 5'10", under 160 lbs. (if that matters). I only go to the gym twice a week. No steroids. Pullups are not hard. If you're struggling with it, go get a weight vest and condition your arms and your back to the heavier weight.

What does your ability to do pull ups have to with Middlestadt?  

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Just now, Alflives said:

What does your ability to do pull ups have to with Middlestadt?  

You clearly didn't bother reading the other poster's post - he said, "doing a pull up with your palms facing outward is not easy...I would bet most of the posters on here couldn't do a pull up either." He is wrong - doing a few pull-ups with palm facing outwards is easy; a non-athlete like me can do it. I posted this before, but that form that Mittelstadt shows in the picture is very, very weird - only someone that has never tried a pull-up before or is injured in one side or is intentionally tanking it would have that form.

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44 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said:

I think if by some miracle the Canucks get the #3 from DAL, they should draft Vilardi and Makar.

 

If they just have the #5 and Vilardi's gone, then draft Glass, I guess.

BPA stick to your guns! Draft who you think is better. If Jim believes Glass is better than Makar I'd hope he went Vilardi at 3rd and Glass at 5th. Wouldn't like to see him take a lesser prospect because he just drafted a forward.

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2 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said:

BPA stick to your guns! Draft who you think is better. If Jim believes Glass is better than Makar I'd hope he went Vilardi at 3rd and Glass at 5th. Wouldn't like to see him take a lesser prospect because he just drafted a forward.

If we obtain another pick in the top 10 or top 5 I'm perfectly ok drafting 2 centers.  2 defensemen or a combo of forward and D

 

That's the joy of having a shallow prospect pool.  There's no wrong answer.

 

Unless it's Rasmussen or Tippett

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3 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said:

BPA stick to your guns! Draft who you think is better. If Jim believes Glass is better than Makar I'd hope he went Vilardi at 3rd and Glass at 5th. Wouldn't like to see him take a lesser prospect because he just drafted a forward.

My hope would be he takes Vilardi at 3 and then Heiskanen or Liljegren at 5.

 

I don't think we can afford to pass on the best D-man available if if there was another center he liked.

 

Best center at 3, best D-man at 5. Coming out of the draft with those two pieces would be a major home run for Benning.

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2 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

My hope would be he takes Vilardi at 3 and then Heiskanen or Liljegren at 5.

 

I don't think we can afford to pass on the best D-man available if if there was another center he liked.

 

Best center at 3, best D-man at 5. Coming out of the draft with those two pieces would be a major home run for Benning.

I know a lot of people are saying that with Colorado thinking of trading Duchene, they want to have another center, but I think Joe Sakic really believes in Tyson Jost as a 2C so they're set with Mackinnon and Jost. So I have Colorado taking a D-man at 4. So if we have the 3 and 5, maybe 3 would be the D-man?

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7 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

My hope would be he takes Vilardi at 3 and then Heiskanen or Liljegren at 5.

 

I don't think we can afford to pass on the best D-man available if if there was another center he liked.

 

Best center at 3, best D-man at 5. Coming out of the draft with those two pieces would be a major home run for Benning.

JB didn't even interview Liljegren....

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5 minutes ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said:

JB didn't even interview Liljegren....

I'm not sure that matters.  As another poster stated Benning very well could have spoken to him while out scouting Dahlen/Petterson/Timra

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6 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

I'm not sure that matters.  As another poster stated Benning very well could have spoken to him while out scouting Dahlen/Petterson/Timra

I suppose so...but still if he was JB's first choice of D.,...I would think he would like to talk to him again anyway, to see if he gets the same impression, etc.

I can't see JB not doing absolutely due diligence on the guy he wants to pick....there are only 4-5 of them being seriously considered by him for #5 pick.

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24 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

My hope would be he takes Vilardi at 3 and then Heiskanen or Liljegren at 5.

 

I don't think we can afford to pass on the best D-man available if if there was another center he liked.

 

Best center at 3, best D-man at 5. Coming out of the draft with those two pieces would be a major home run for Benning.

Agree

 

The game is showing that a two way center is always an asset and that teams do very well with skill on defence. 

 

 

Look at Nashville, Boston, LA, Chicago and even Pittsburgh (Crosby has embraced two way play).  These teams all represent a road map for team structure. 

 

Getting a center like Vlardi and a d man like Liljegren would be a success. It would give us a heavy puck possession two center corps and skill and puck movement on defence. 

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21 minutes ago, TheHitman said:

Why do people want Heiskanen? He's nothing we can't pick up off the free agency market. 

He's 18, I'm almost certain he will get better.

 

A top 4 D-man in free agency will also cost you 5+ million. 

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28 minutes ago, Horvat is a Boss said:

 

2 months ago I didn't want Vilardi at all, but I'm completely sold on him now I think he'll be the best C taken after the top 2. His combo of size,skill,finesse,accurate and hard shot, work ethic, and 2-way play are a nasty combo. Of course he still needs to work on his skating, but imo he's much more comparable to Schiefele than Glass is. I doubt he'll make it past the 3rd pick as I think Dallas takes him, but if he gets to 5 he's my guy.

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