MattJVD Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 What's the word on Suzuki? Consistant and dangerous offensively, plays a strong 200 foot game, natural centre but played a lot wing this year, decent in the dot, plays in all situations, good skater, not big but handles himself well in the rough stuff, one of the youngest players in the draft, 96 points ( 45 goals, 51 assists) this year. So what is it that keeps him out of the 5-12 range? Is there something that he's lacking that keeps him in the ~15 neighborhood? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 22 hours ago, vinny_in_vancouver said: Ok, using the top 25 list from https://link.nhl.com/centralscouting/public/, here are how the candidates that I care about fared (basically, the top athletes are Yamamoto, Makar, Foote, Liljegren, Hischier, Suzuki): CENTERS: Nolan Patrick: 14: Musculoskeletal: Bench Press 14: Musculoskeletal: Pull-Ups Consecutive (max #) Hischier: 13: Agility & Balance: Pro Agility Right 13: Anaerobic Fitness: Peak Power Output (watts/kg) 2: Musculoskeletal: Pull-Ups Consecutive (max #) 24: Musculoskeletal: Standing Long Jump (in) Vilardi (I believe he didn't participate in all tests): 11: Aerobic Fitness: Test Duration 2: Anaerobic Fitness: Fatigue Index Glass: 20: Agility & Balance: Pro Agility Left 24: Agility & Balance: Pro Agility Right Mittelstadt: 5: Anaerobic Fitness: Fatigue Index 20: Force Plate: Vertical Jump (inches) Necas: 3: Anaerobic Fitness: Fatigue Index Pettersson 3: Anaerobic Fitness: Mean Power Output (watts/kg) 7: Anaerobic Fitness: Peak Power Output (watts/kg) Michael Rasmussen 4: Aerobic Fitness: Test Duration 3: Anthropometry: Wing Span (inches) Suzuki 9: Aerobic Fitness: Test Duration 9: Aerobic Fitness: VO2max 20: Agility & Balance: Pro Agility Right 25: Force Plate: Vertical Jump (inches) DEFENSEMAN: Makar: 8: Agility & Balance: Pro Agility Left 3: Agility & Balance: Pro Agility Right 8: Anaerobic Fitness: Fatigue Index 5: Force Plate: Vertical Jump (inches) 10: Musculoskeletal: Standing Long Jump (in) Liljegren: 22: Anaerobic Fitness: Mean Power Output (watts/kg) 11: Anaerobic Fitness: Peak Power Output (watts/kg) 17: Force Plate: Vertical Jump (inches) 8: Musculoskeletal: Standing Long Jump (in) Heiskanen: 24: Anaerobic Fitness: Peak Power Output (watts/kg) Callan Foote: 3: Aerobic Fitness: Test Duration 21: Aerobic Fitness: VO2max 7: Agility & Balance: Pro Agility Left 14: Agility & Balance: Pro Agility Right 12: Anthropometry: Wing Span (inches) WINGERS: Tippett: 23: Anaerobic Fitness: Fatigue Index 14: Force Plate: Vertical Jump (inches) Yamamoto: 1: Aerobic Fitness: VO2max 2: Agility & Balance: Pro Agility Left 2: Agility & Balance: Pro Agility Right 4: Anaerobic Fitness: Mean Power Output (watts/kg) 3: Anaerobic Fitness: Peak Power Output (watts/kg) 6: Musculoskeletal: Pull-Ups Consecutive (max #) Hopefully this Yamamoto kid falls to us when we select 33rd pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedintwinpowersactivate Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 I really like Jonah Gadjovich with our 33rd pick. The guy has 1st line winger potential if he improves his skating. Conor Timmins on defense as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 7 hours ago, CanuckFan1123 said: Can I inquire as to why no one is interested in Owen Tippett? Every mock draft I see he is top 10, but literally every Canucks fan seems to have zero interest in him. I'm seeing every Canucks fan showing interest in practically all the other likely top 10 guys plus even some potentially outside the top 10, but no one mentions Tippett and his numbers were awesome so it can't possibly be lack of skill. Is it just because he's a winger and we all want a center or defense, character issues, etc? What's the deal out of curiosity. His Jr stats and scouting reports read eerily similar to Jakes. Not saying that they are the same. We also have a huge team need for centres and skilled defenders. With Baer, Granlund, Virtannen, Goldy, Boeser along with Lockwood... we have a lot of young potential on the wings, but after Horvat, we have Gaunce and Gaudette. OJ is a two way guy and Subban is an OFD, our only one. We have some good prospect depth in Brisbios and McEnemy, but where's the defensive scoring coming from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BI3KSALLENT Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Odd. said: He's not even that skinny. He's 6'1 and 188lbs. He weighs more than Juolevi. Edit: 178lbs, but still, that's about Juolevi's weight too. On Elite and the Knights website Juolevi's listed at 188lbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gaudette Celly Posted June 5, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2017 9 hours ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Can't find anything on Glass, Liljegren, it's sad that TO and oilers have better draft coverage than Canucks despite Canucks being in the top 5 this year. After 10 years of top-10 drafting, they've perfected the industry. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
44 Duncan Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 What do you guys think of drafting Callan Foote? He is big and has decent numbers and some great hockey lineage. I would like to see the Canucks try and get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) 33 minutes ago, BI3KSALLENT said: On Elite and the Knights website Juolevi's listed at 188lbs Juolevi last year was listed at 179lbs prior to the 2016 draft. Roughly close to Necas current weight. But it's also good to hear Juolevi is close to 190lbs. Although I think Juolevi is not the type of player to be playing at 200lbs. Edited June 5, 2017 by Odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeBrew Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 1 hour ago, MattJVD said: What's the word on Suzuki? Consistant and dangerous offensively, plays a strong 200 foot game, natural centre but played a lot wing this year, decent in the dot, plays in all situations, good skater, not big but handles himself well in the rough stuff, one of the youngest players in the draft, 96 points ( 45 goals, 51 assists) this year. So what is it that keeps him out of the 5-12 range? Is there something that he's lacking that keeps him in the ~15 neighborhood? Claude Giroux potential. Suzuki is one of my favourite players in this draft and if we were picking anywhere in the 10-15 range I personally wouldn't hesitate to take him. From what I have heard, the only thing really keeping him out of the top 10 is his size - bigger centers tend to be more coveted in the higher end of the draft unless there is evidence of true offensive dominance like Mitch Marner. Who ever he falls to though will be getting a steal of a pick and even potentially the best player of the draft. He falls past 20, I would hope GM JB makes a deal to move up and select him. Also, one of the reason why I wouldn't mind getting a mid range pick in a Toronto trade and select one of Suzuki, Foote or potentially Vesalainen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJVD Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 1 minute ago, HomeBrew said: Claude Giroux potential. Suzuki is one of my favourite players in this draft and if we were picking anywhere in the 10-15 range I personally wouldn't hesitate to take him. From what I have heard, the only thing really keeping him out of the top 10 is his size - bigger centers tend to be more coveted in the higher end of the draft unless there is evidence of true offensive dominance like Mitch Marner. Who ever he falls to though will be getting a steal of a pick and even potentially the best player of the draft. He falls past 20, I would hope GM JB makes a deal to move up and select him. Also, one of the reason why I wouldn't mind getting a mid range pick in a Toronto trade and select one of Suzuki, Foote or potentially Vesalainen. Thanks for the info. I'm surprised scouts are wearry of his size. 5'11" and 183lbs for someone who isn't even 18 yet isn't bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Wouldn't mind this guy at #5 if he's available 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 5 hours ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Vilardi's speed and puck skills are nothing to be concerned about.. All I want for Christmas is Gabe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 5 hours ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Vilardi's speed and puck skills are nothing to be concerned about.. If he was available at 5 and Benning selected him, I'd be happy about that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedintwinpowersactivate Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 49 minutes ago, messier's_elbow said: All I want for Christmas is Gabe. Yah! Best case scenario. Hischeir Patrick Mittelstadt Heiskanan Vilardi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BI3KSALLENT Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Odd. said: Juolevi last year was listed at 179lbs prior to the 2016 draft. Roughly close to Necas current weight. But it's also good to hear Juolevi is close to 190lbs. Although I think Juolevi is not the type of player to be playing at 200lbs. I feel like Juolevi will probably end up playing at around 200-205lbs by the time he's fully matured 20lbs isn't too crazy to put on imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieBush Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Not the right thread, but I would kill for Thomas Chabot. The kid is a certified G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 15 minutes ago, Sedintwinpowersactivate said: Yah! Best case scenario. Hischeir Patrick Mittelstadt Heiskanan Vilardi If you want Gabe, then best case scenario is: Not Gabe Not Gabe Not Gabe Not Gabe Gabe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHockeyNerds Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 12 hours ago, Sugar baby watermelon said: nobody I am just under the assumption he may drop a couple of spots, I could care less that he didn't do the pullup or only 1 bench press, I know the kid has game for days, I'd be more than happy if we take him 5th if he is available Very well said! Agree 100 percent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 3 hours ago, 44 Duncan said: What do you guys think of drafting Callan Foote? He is big and has decent numbers and some great hockey lineage. I would like to see the Canucks try and get him. If he is there at 17 id do a deal with Toronto to draft Foote. Something like others have proposed Kapanen ( other high end froward prospect ) + 17 for Chris Tanev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedinyoureyesontheprize Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) Makar just jumped into the top 5 with those combine results and Mittelstadt dropped imo. Edited June 5, 2017 by Setyoureyesontheprize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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