shiznak Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) 14 hours ago, CanuckFan1123 said: Can I inquire as to why no one is interested in Owen Tippett? Every mock draft I see he is top 10, but literally every Canucks fan seems to have zero interest in him. I'm seeing every Canucks fan showing interest in practically all the other likely top 10 guys plus even some potentially outside the top 10, but no one mentions Tippett and his numbers were awesome so it can't possibly be lack of skill. Is it just because he's a winger and we all want a center or defense, character issues, etc? What's the deal out of curiosity. Honestly, I think am the only one who prefers Tippett over Glass and Mittelstadt. Our lack of center and defensive depth is indeed an issue, but that can be fixed over the course of the rebuild. It doesn't have to be address right away, with Horvat, Stecher, Hutton, Boeser, Juolevi, and Virtanen, the key pieces of the rebuild, all under the age of 23. Tippett being a winger, and our abundance of them in the system, should be irrelevant. You go into the draft picking who YOU think is the BPA. Tippett could very well be a solid pick at 5, while Glass and Mittelstadt become nothing more than serviceable bottom six players. Edited June 5, 2017 by shiznak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seannnp Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 9 hours ago, BI3KSALLENT said: 2 months ago I didn't want Vilardi at all, but I'm completely sold on him now I think he'll be the best C taken after the top 2. His combo of size,skill,finesse,accurate and hard shot, work ethic, and 2-way play are a nasty combo. Of course he still needs to work on his skating, but imo he's much more comparable to Schiefele than Glass is. I doubt he'll make it past the 3rd pick as I think Dallas takes him, but if he gets to 5 he's my guy. Completely agree. Started off hoping Vilardi dropped to 5, but then wasnt sure he was what the Canucks needed and thought Glass would be a better option. After some more footage, snippet interviews and performance at the combine, its a no brainer, Vilardi is who we should be drafting. We NEED to get the 3rd from Dallas. Villardi and Glass/Hesikanen along with another top 5 pick next year!! Exciting times ahead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang Durst Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 11 hours ago, Stelar said: Folk, we are not getting the 3rd and the 5th. We will pick 5. All these silly rumours around top picks being up for grabs. Poppy cock. Based on the rumors surrounding Tanev I am pretty sure that JB at least considers a trade with Dallas: To Dallas: Tanev / To VAN: #3 overall. Let's wait one or two weeks and we all know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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73 Percent Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 11 minutes ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said: It means he didn't prepare for the combine. Lack of commitment imo. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said: To me, it's not so much that his poor pull-up and bench press performance means he's physically weak. It's that that it makes him look like he came unprepared (even his form looked pretty bad). Preparation is going to be key when he makes it to the NHL if you are going to be a first-line center. You can't rely on just pure talent and skill alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, 73 Percent said: It means he didn't prepare for the combine. Lack of commitment imo. Hah! Great minds think alike - you beat me by 2 minutes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 4 hours ago, Wolfgang Durst said: Based on the rumors surrounding Tanev I am pretty sure that JB at least considers a trade with Dallas: To Dallas: Tanev / To VAN: #3 overall. Let's wait one or two weeks and we all know. If we sign Miller, any trade with Dallas will be dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 1 minute ago, 73 Percent said: It means he didn't prepare for the combine. Lack of commitment imo. Just now, vinny_in_vancouver said: Hah! Great minds think alike - you beat me by 2 minutes! He did very well on all the endurance tests so he's obviously in shape. Strength is not determined by bench press and pulls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar baby watermelon Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 What other teams can provide a player like Tanev to Dallas for that 3rd OA pick? Tanev is a calming presence in the back end and has some pretty good exit passes. Just out of curiousity. There are other teams with similar players that can provide as well right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, 73 Percent said: It means he didn't prepare for the combine. Lack of commitment imo. Not at all - and you realize he's going to go to university to develop. They have great strength and conditioning training programs in university's. Not a red flag at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) My top 10 as of right now after the combine. 1. Patrick 2. Vilardi 3. Hischier 4. Heiskanen 5. Petterson 6. Mittelstadt 7. Makar 8. Glass 9. Necas 10. Foote Edited June 5, 2017 by messier's_elbow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, R3aL said: Not at all - and you realize he's going to go to university to develop. They have great strength and conditioning training programs in university's. Not a red flag at all. I wonder if Middlestadt's lack of upper body strength makes him even more attractive? He likely had to be super skillful to make up for this. Maybe he's maturing later than his peers too. This kid could really blossom! I want him more now. Get him JB!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) 18 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: He did very well on all the endurance tests so he's obviously in shape. Strength is not determined by bench press and pulls. Man can you read like at all? I don't care what kind of shape he is in. The fact that he so obviously didn't prepare for these tests at all shows a lot about his work ethic. He hasn't played since April 23rd. He's had 5 weeks to figure out how to do a pullup with proper form and he couldn't do it. I never once mentioned his fitness level. Only his level of commitment. Edited June 5, 2017 by 73 Percent 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, R3aL said: Not at all - and you realize he's going to go to university to develop. They have great strength and conditioning training programs in university's. Not a red flag at all. Why even have the combine then? What makes you think he'll develop strength at university of he couldn't do a single pullups with 5 weeks to prepare ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 11 minutes ago, Sugar baby watermelon said: What other teams can provide a player like Tanev to Dallas for that 3rd OA pick? Tanev is a calming presence in the back end and has some pretty good exit passes. Just out of curiousity. There are other teams with similar players that can provide as well right? Was listening to Pratt on team 1040 this morning that Barrie and Trouba may be in play as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 19 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: He did very well on all the endurance tests so he's obviously in shape. Strength is not determined by bench press and pulls. 13 minutes ago, R3aL said: Not at all - and you realize he's going to go to university to develop. They have great strength and conditioning training programs in university's. Not a red flag at all. Do you think Henrik or Linden or Bo would have come to this combine unprepared to do even a single pull-up? They would have had the common sense to prepare. Now, if it turns out that Mittelstadt was injured, then that's another story, but if he was not injured, that speaks volumes about his preparation. Again, all you need to do is look at his pull-up form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 1 minute ago, 73 Percent said: Why even have the combine then? What makes you think he'll develop strength at university of he couldn't do a single pullups with 5 weeks to prepare ? Kids develop strength differently as they mature. Well for 1 a 17/18 year old who is 200lbs its pretty hard to do pullups. Most of these kids are just starting strength training programs or 1/2 years in and dont put the emphasis on their upper body as their lower body strength is much more important. I agree though the results are concerning especially since most regular athletes in high schools here locally would put this to shame. I know I would have when I was his age.. But look at Bennett he couldnt even do 1.. and hes overcome it. And if the combine meant everything than Joshua Norris and Kailer would be top 2 draft picks and Eichel would have been picked over McDavid. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said: Was listening to Pratt on team 1040 this morning that Barrie and Trouba may be in play as well. Luckily they are a different type of player than Tanev! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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