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1 minute ago, TheHitman said:

If we have two high picks in this draft I don't see why we wouldn't pick two of Glass, Pettersson, and Vilardi. None of the defensemen have the ceiling of those three guys who could all potentially be the steals in this draft. Plenty of defensemen to choose from next year who'll be much better than any of the top defensemen in this draft unless Liljegren rebounds. An early second round pick next year will get us a better defensemen than Makar or Heiskanen. 

A better defender... probably... but there's no way you'd get the offence that Makar can potentially bring.  High risk, but very high reward.

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3 minutes ago, TheHitman said:

If we have two high picks in this draft I don't see why we wouldn't pick two of Glass, Pettersson, and Vilardi. None of the defensemen have the ceiling of those three guys who could all potentially be the steals in this draft. Plenty of defensemen to choose from next year who'll be much better than any of the top defensemen in this draft unless Liljegren rebounds. An early second round pick next year will get us a better defensemen than Makar or Heiskanen. 

Strong down the middle with the potential of playing on the wing as well, can you imagine, oh man, that would be sick!!

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Dont think that Benning and Co. are going to go off the board here.

i have almost no concern on who benning picks at #5 because I believe anyone ranked in the top 8 (as per bobs list) will be solid players.

 

Don't think Benning is interested in picking:

Heiskanen (same role as juolevi, but will be a great player)

Tippet (too one dimensional, a soft version of JV?)

Liljegren (still high on, but too high to be picked at 5)

Middlestadt (undeniable skill, risk of him signing somewhere else after college) 

 

They are going to pick the BPA on there list, who i think will be:

Makar (top pairing upside, PP QB basement) 

Glass (seems to fit the mould that JB is looking for, good size with room to grow)

Pettersson (high risk/reward, could be a steal at 5 or huge upset) 

Valardi (safest player that will be taken in the top 5. Might never put up as may points as anyone on this list, but will be a top 6 centre) 

 

Wildcard

Nick Suzuki (honestly feel like he could be one of the best players of the draft. Canucks will not pick him at 5, but i believe hes going to be a steal at the 8-12th pick) 

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41 minutes ago, The 5th Line said:

It's a league full of undersized players and kids who couldn't keep up with him.  

 

20 year olds don't go after the 16 or 17 year olds.  It's an unwritten rule 

LMAO sure they don't oh that's rich lol.  They not only go after them for hits but just chew them up endlessly on the boards every chance they get.  And if there's scouts in the stands it gets very very rough.

 

Sorry man, but they sure do go after them

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1 minute ago, Jayinblack said:

A better defender... probably... but there's no way you'd get the offence that Makar can potentially bring.  High risk, but very high reward.

Dahlin, Merkley, Hughes, Addison, Bouchard and a plethora of other defenders have played in much tougher leagues than the AJHL and put up remarkable numbers in their first seasons in their respective junior hockey leagues. All of those guys are better on the defensive end than Makar as well. 

 

6 minutes ago, Sugar baby watermelon said:

Strong down the middle with the potential of playing on the wing as well, can you imagine, oh man, that would be sick!!

Plus you have a decent chance that one of them becomes a 1C as well. 

 

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On June 18, 2017 at 0:48 PM, Alflives said:

I heard him interview on 1040.  He said he's still growing.  Has a brother 6'6" and dad 6'4"

 

On June 18, 2017 at 1:27 PM, sonoman said:

Yes please

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YES I HEARD SAME INTERVIEW, VERY EXCITED IF WE GET GLASS!! I SEE HIM PLAYING AT 6'3, 220LBS WHAT EVERY TEAM NEEDS..# 1 CENTRE FOR 10-12 YRS! YEAHV YEAH

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6 minutes ago, Camel Toe Drag said:

I think there should still be some interest if their serious about improving this year. Murray got fired mainly for not addressing Buffalo's glaring defensive holes. Lehner is a decent enough goalie IMO but they D-Corps needs some retooling outside of Risto obviously. 

Adding Tanev would have them at 15M just on the rhd.  Bogosian has 3 more years and is overpaid, so he would be hard to move.  I'm sure Tanev would really help them out, but the figures are bad.

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Quite a few good Cs in this draft to choose from.

 

Vilardi

Glass

Mittelstadt

Necas

Pettersson

Rasmussen

Suzuki

 

I wonder which one it will be. My guess is Pettersson.

 

1 NJ - Hischier

2 PHI - Patrick

3 DAL - Heiskanen

4. COL - Glass

5 VAN - Pettersson

6. LV - Vilardi 

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13 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said:

I meant having Juoevi as their second choice was a good kept secret. I think we all knew they wanted Dubois, but CBJ had to screw that up.

 

 

 

10 minutes ago, J.R. said:

Only to those who weren't paying attention/refusing to listen.

I think JR is right on this one. I am pretty sure I remember an interview from before the draft where either Benning or Linden said they had a D in their top group of prospects (i.e. a guy they might draft) and Benning had previously said great things about Juolevi.I remember feeling a nagging worry once Dubois was picked that the Canucks would take Juolevi instead of Tkachuk.

 

As for this year, after seeing the final TSN rankings from Button and MacKenzie on TSN I am totally confused. There has been much more volatility in the rankings than in any previous year in recent memory and rankings are all over the place. The differences throughout the top 8 or 9 just seem very small,

 

The only thing I know for sure is that I would take Hischier at #1. Beyond that is just a guess. Nolan Patrick's injuries worry me. The fact that Makar is playing Junior A worries me, Vilardi's skating worries me, Mittlestadt's apparently weak upper body strength (showing a lack of commitment to training) worries me, the fact that Glass came out of nowhere this year is a slight concern. Heiskanen looks a lot like Juolevi and his position in the rankings varies a lot. Overall, I am still leaning toward a hope that the Canucks take Glass and #5 and I would also be very happy with Vilardi. Like Tkachuk last year, Vilardi is not a great skater but he is a good enough skater and he "gets the job done". Actually I like him better than Tkachuk because he is better defensively. If both Glass and Vilardi are gone at #5 I guess I would go with Makar. 

 

The sleeper in this draft is that the Canucks could get a very good prospect at #33.

 

And, being in the rebuild camp, I certainly favor trading Tanev to get another first round pick but I don't see it happening. Benning just does not want to embrace the rebuild. I think he only traded Hansen at the deadline because they would have lost him to Vegas in the expansion draft. 

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9 minutes ago, Wonder__Bread said:

I don't understand the skepticism regarding Petterssons size. Pettersson stands at ~6 ft 2 and weighs in at ~165 lbs. Ehlers weighed around the same, Nylander wasn't much heavier, however both were shorter and they turned out great. I think JB learned his lesson with the 2014 draft. A teenager with surreal hockey IQ and skill is more valuable than a fully developed teenager with mediocre skill/hockey IQ. 

 

You have to remember that these kids are only 17. How much did you weigh when you were 17? I was 6 ft 1 and 165lbs and today I'm the same height but I weigh 190 lbs. These kids bodies haven't fully developed yet and they sure as hell haven't been hitting the gym seriously yet. Yes, everyone has different genes so we don't all grow/put on weight at the same rates but I'm willing to bet that by the time Pettersson is 21 he'll be at least 180 lbs. Even then his hockey IQ along with his skillset will always allow him to play/thrive at the highest level.  

We have too many finesse forwards already. Petterson is tall but will never be a bruiser. Vilardi or Glass is what we need down the middle to complete in the west. 

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1 hour ago, Alflives said:

http://ajhl.ca/media-centre/news-archives.html?rYear=&nID=37

 

20 year old men playing against 15 and 16 year old boys creates a troublesome situation in Canadian Junior hockey.  Makar, being an exceptional talent, and standing out at a young age would have been certainly the target of opposing teams.

It's a rough league:

No it's not, it's not rough league.  

 

There would have been likely less than 15 players in the entire league under the age of 17.  Each team "might" have one full time player at 16.  For example Brooks only had 1 player that was 16 or under who played over 10 games.

 

And on top of that it's funny you bring up age since the range in age in the league Pettersson played in is far greater.  Heck on his team alone he was the youngest at 17 and the oldest player on his team was 30. 

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5 minutes ago, JamesB said:

I think JR is right on this one. I am pretty sure I remember an interview from before the draft where either Benning or Linden said they had a D in their top group of prospects (i.e. a guy they might draft) and Benning had previously said great things about Juolevi.I remember feeling a nagging worry once Dubois was picked that the Canucks would take Juolevi instead of Tkachuk.

Yeah, I sort of recall them being interested in a D, but there were a few with Juolevi, Chychrun and Sergachev. I thought for sure with Tkachuk being available they would've gone for the offense. I also recall when he announced Juolevi, the entire arena gave a collective "groan", as that pick seemed to surprised a lot of people. Who knows what they have up their sleeves this time? Well, JR might know.

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15 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said:

Quite a few good Cs in this draft to choose from.

 

Vilardi

Glass

Mittelstadt

Necas

Pettersson

Rasmussen

Suzuki

 

I wonder which one it will be. My guess is Pettersson.

 

1 NJ - Hischier

2 PHI - Patrick

3 DAL - Heiskanen

4. COL - Glass

5 VAN - Pettersson

6. LV - Vilardi 

If that is how it plays out and Vancouver selects Pettersson while Vilardi is still on the board, I think CDC would be up in arms haha, I don't think I would be disappointed because Pettersson oozes offensive skills and has the size just not the weight.  Remember Karlsson and Zetterburg were like this too, but they rounded into form by the time they hit the show.

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21 minutes ago, higgyfan said:

Adding Tanev would have them at 15M just on the rhd.  Bogosian has 3 more years and is overpaid, so he would be hard to move.  I'm sure Tanev would really help them out, but the figures are bad.

Bogosian may end up going to LV in the expansion draft. That would open up a need for Tanev and the cap space to take him on.

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  • Adarsh Sant changed the title to Craig Button Final Mock Draft has Canucks taking Glass at #5. Hischier, Patrick, Heiskanen Top 3.
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