Honky Cat Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Canucks Now @CanucksNow 8h8 hours ago More Squire Barnes: "The #Canucks have talked to the four teams ahead of them [to move up] - it doesn't look like that's going to happening." 6 replies12 retweets19 likes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Honky Cat said: Judging from twitter feeds I have seen..Canucks are not getting that 3rd outright from Dallas ...The most Dallas will do is a swap,and theres no justification to cough up an important asset just for that...Its business as usual,just concentrate on the 5OA. There is so many rumors and most aren't true. I will be happy if we only have our fifth but hope Benning tests the market. There is real lack of D men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honky Cat Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 For all those that wonder if Heiskanen would be a worthy pick.. Ranked #3 by Hockeyprospect.com Ranked #4 by ISS Hockey Ranked #3 by Future Considerations Ranked #3 by McKeen's Hockey Ranked #4 by NHL Central Scouting (EU Skaters) Ranked #3 by TSN/McKenzie - See more at: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=250075#sthash.9n1qwAL1.dpuf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Tanev is good for our young D-men. Deal him at TDL, if a reasonable offer is there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 6 hours ago, Hutton Wink said: He can't make it any clearer -- speed and skill, "more than anything", so even if at the expense of size. Trying to get the bigger picture, it looks like Makar could be the guy if their desired Cs all go, and the "speed" mantra might exclude Vilardi but include Mittelstadt? Would have probably meant Hischier over Patrick, too. In 2014 he said something very similar. Something along the lines that. "If you look at our division, it's big and tough and we need size" and then admitted that's why he didn't even consider taking skill. Maybe it's best that we don't worry about being a reactionary team since the league and style of constantly changing. Plenty of players in today's game are finding success despite not being the fleetest of foot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Honky Cat said: For all those that wonder if Heiskanen would be a worthy pick.. Ranked #3 by Hockeyprospect.com Ranked #4 by ISS Hockey Ranked #3 by Future Considerations Ranked #3 by McKeen's Hockey Ranked #4 by NHL Central Scouting (EU Skaters) Ranked #3 by TSN/McKenzie - See more at: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=250075#sthash.9n1qwAL1.dpuf Readiness/safety bias. Edited June 20, 2017 by J.R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 58 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: In 2014 he said something very similar. Something along the lines that. "If you look at our division, it's big and tough and we need size" and then admitted that's why he didn't even consider taking skill. Maybe it's best that we don't worry about being a reactionary team since the league and style of constantly changing. Plenty of players in today's game are finding success despite not being the fleetest of foot. Sounds to me like he's simply prioritizing skill and speed, even though he acknowledges the size in the West. So it's less reactionary and more building the team he wants to run with, not to mention correcting the team's biggest needs right now. Once the Sedins go, we lose skill but make immediate gains in team speed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: Sounds to me like he's simply prioritizing skill and speed, even though he acknowledges the size in the West. So it's less reactionary and more building the team he wants to run with, not to mention correcting the team's biggest needs right now. Once the Sedins go, we lose skill but make immediate gains in team speed. As soon as he's mentions what the other teams are currently doing it becomes a reactionary statement. There style is determining the type of team he wants. When picking in the top 10 needs to be focuses on taking the player that will bring the most value to the team, which investment is the most sound for ROI on a 5th overall pick. not which player looks to fill a future hole. JB took Jake based on reaction and passed on skill, 3 years later he's now in need of skill, one of those players he passed on sure would have looked good right now. JB also didn't know that he would have had the chance to draft another top meat and potatoes type guy two years post 2014. But that's the point, i'm trying to make. Why make the core of your pick based on what you feel fills a hole, when for all we know next year there will have been better options, meanwhile the guy's we ignore turn into players this team ends up needing anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Glass over Vilardi is my preference so far. I'm watching all the players in our range's clips on youtube again. Glass looks the bomb. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocksterh8 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 If Glass is there at 5 they better take him! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruilin96 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 If available draft in this order: 1). Vilardi 2). Glass 3). Mittlestadt If going for Defenceman: 1). Heiskanen 2). Timothy Liljegren Not a huge fan of Cale Markar as he seems to be over hyped. Playing at a tier lower also makes him look a lot better than he actually is and he seems a little too small for the Western Conference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang Durst Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 10 hours ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said: Canucks Now @CanucksNow Benning: "Looking past Henrik, we need a guy that can come in and play in our top 9 and set the wingers up for scoring chances." #Canucks Honestly don't get Benning's rationale here. Henrik is a #1C and Benning wants a top 9 C as a replacement. Sounds weird, very weird. ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Tail Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Wolfgang Durst said: Canucks Now @CanucksNow Benning: "Looking past Henrik, we need a guy that can come in and play in our top 9 and set the wingers up for scoring chances." #Canucks Honestly don't get Benning's rationale here. Henrik is a #1C and Benning wants a top 9 C as a replacement. Sounds weird, very weird. ........... Thinkin he is referring to a young player who can jump on the team right away and move up to 1 C spot in time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 5 hours ago, NaveJoseph said: Mittelstadt's actually known for his compete level. He may have had a lackluster combine, but on the ice he's a very hard worker. Bigger players don't phase him and he's very good at shielding the puck and moving it up the ice. If he gets stronger and more athletic he could be really good, as he already has the smarts and puck skills. I think he fits the team Benning is building, and would be very happy if we picked him. This is what one report said of Casey (notice the part about "as other prospects"): "Some scouts were disappointed Mittelstadt chose to use his draft year to finish his high-school career as opposed to playing in the USHL on a full-time basis. And Mittelstadt was unimpressive in the strength testing at the NHL combine, where he failed to do even one pull-up, completed just one bench press and recorded the worst VO2 max (aerobic capacity measurement) score of any prospect. At a shade under 6 feet tall but one pound shy of 200, fitness and conditioning do not appear, at this time, to be his forte. "It's a testament to his skill, talent and potential he's still a top-five or top-six prospect," one scout said. "You can focus on what he isn't able to do because he hasn't trained as much [as other prospects] or you can easily imagine how much better he will be once he embraces strength and conditioning." I definitely like his skill level and speed. And kudos for him for being strong (stubborn?) enough to make his own decisions, but there seems to be concerns as to why he didn't want it bad enough to compete with the other prospects. He seems to be the kind of guy that says, "if I think it's good enough, then it's good enough." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 This isn't rocket science... Pick Vilardi or Glass at 5. JB can't possibly screw this up can he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, vinny_in_vancouver said: This is what one report said of Casey (notice the part about "as other prospects"): "Some scouts were disappointed Mittelstadt chose to use his draft year to finish his high-school career as opposed to playing in the USHL on a full-time basis. And Mittelstadt was unimpressive in the strength testing at the NHL combine, where he failed to do even one pull-up, completed just one bench press and recorded the worst VO2 max (aerobic capacity measurement) score of any prospect. At a shade under 6 feet tall but one pound shy of 200, fitness and conditioning do not appear, at this time, to be his forte. "It's a testament to his skill, talent and potential he's still a top-five or top-six prospect," one scout said. "You can focus on what he isn't able to do because he hasn't trained as much [as other prospects] or you can easily imagine how much better he will be once he embraces strength and conditioning." I definitely like his skill level and speed. And kudos for him for being strong (stubborn?) enough to make his own decisions, but there seems to be concerns as to why he didn't want it bad enough to compete with the other prospects. He seems to be the kind of guy that says, "if I think it's good enough, then it's good enough." Kind of reminds me of kessel and in a way Patrick Kane. If these guys are performing then it's great. The second they stop performing questions will be brought up about fitness (character in kanes case). These typles of players aren't willing to fix the problem but rather just keep their head down and hope it fixes itself. Where if a player like Bo starts to slump you don't question his character or commitment level. Whatever is making him struggle is out of his control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, 73 Percent said: Kind of reminds me of kessel and in a way Patrick Kane. If these guys are performing then it's great. The second they stop performing questions will be brought up about fitness (character in kanes case). These typles of players aren't willing to fix the problem but rather just keep their head down and hope it fixes itself. Where if a player like Bo starts to slump you don't question his character or commitment level. Whatever is making him struggle is out of his control. Coincidence that they're all American? Probably. I'm not big on Mittelstadt only because there are other Cs the Canucks could pick from. Vilardi or Glass is the clear choice right now, but who knows how the interviews went and what notes the Canucks have on these guys. I just have a bad feeling about Mittelsatdt making a splash in the NHL, due to his lack of preparedness and commitment to making the bigs. He seems really happy and satisfied playing with lower level players in MIN. I want a player who can't wait to put on that Canucks jersey and prove himself. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seannnp Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 18 hours ago, TheHitman said: If we drafted Vilardi and Pettersson our top six in the future would probably be: Eriksson-Pettersson-Boeser Baerstchi-Horvat-Vilardi Decent mix of size, speed, and skill. Dahlen Pettersson Vilardi Baertschi Horvat Boeser we would be set for years to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 25 minutes ago, messier's_elbow said: This isn't rocket science... Pick Vilardi or Glass at 5. JB can't possibly screw this up can he? Two words (just a word of warning): Elias Pettersson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seannnp Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 12 hours ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Why not keep him as the perfect trading asset for next years draft. Next year has 4 players that will be better ppqb than anyone likely taken in this draft. Hughes, Merkley, Dahlin, Boqvist The only problem i see with that is I dont see any team trading either of those 4 for a 28/29 year old Tanev. Teams will be reluctant to trade first picks in a much stronger draft year, especially a top 10 pick. I see those 4 you mentioned going top 5/6 in next years draft barring any major issues like Liljegren this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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