Timråfan Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 3 hours ago, aqua59 said: I'm starting to get miffed with Green for even playing this dud. Why? What's the point? Look how well the team plays when he's not in the line up. It was only the PP that was good/lucky so what are you talking about? We had ridiculus luck that got the puck in with as few shots we had... Was it 3 shots and 3 goals first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajax- Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 3 hours ago, aqua59 said: I'm starting to get miffed with Green for even playing this dud. Why? What's the point? Look how well the team plays when he's not in the line up. For the love of god give it a rest! Enough already 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 5 hours ago, AbrasiveAjax said: For the love of god give it a rest! Enough already Loui is crap and should not play NHL hockey. Why should he give it a rest? No one should give it a rest until Loui is sent to Utica. He simply does not deserve to be up with the Canucks no matter what his wife (timrawife) says. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 56 minutes ago, Kanukfanatic said: Loui is crap and should not play NHL hockey. Why should he give it a rest? No one should give it a rest until Loui is sent to Utica. He simply does not deserve to be up with the Canucks no matter what his wife (timrawife) says. Beating a dead horse doesn't make it any more dead. Most people, even those who once defended him (like myself), agree that Eriksson shouldn't be on our regular roster of 12 forwards. Continuing to berate and discredit him does no good, as he's already fully discredited. May as well be firing bullets into a dead body. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 22 minutes ago, -AJ- said: Beating a dead horse doesn't make it any more dead. Most people, even those who once defended him (like myself), agree that Eriksson shouldn't be on our regular roster of 12 forwards. Continuing to berate and discredit him does no good, as he's already fully discredited. May as well be firing bullets into a dead body. When a “Cull” player (Eriksson) is taking up a good roster spot it effects the team and org from developing to their potential, Eriksson is far past the point of redemption and opportunities now, but the fact remains That not only are we are one man less with him,. We are not allowing the next better man the opportunities that he deserves. its not just about a dead horse, but that dead horse is blocking the way out of town. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 6 hours ago, SilentSam said: When a “Cull” player (Eriksson) is taking up a good roster spot it effects the team and org from developing to their potential, Eriksson is far past the point of redemption and opportunities now, but the fact remains That not only are we are one man less with him,. We are not allowing the next better man the opportunities that he deserves. its not just about a dead horse, but that dead horse is blocking the way out of town. Green plays a system that doesn't fit Loui. Hell, not even Petey is a match for Greens play. Petey is frustrated and loose a lot of puck etc. It's almost only the PP that works decently for Petey due to Greens/Bennings plans for Petey. Why not start blaming Green for underachieving players? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Timråfan said: Green plays a system that doesn't fit Loui. Hell, not even Petey is a match for Greens play. Petey is frustrated and loose a lot of puck etc. It's almost only the PP that works decently for Petey due to Greens/Bennings plans for Petey. Why not start blaming Green for underachieving players? Petey's on pace for 100 points. If that's underachieving, I can't imagine what your standards for him must be. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 55 minutes ago, -AJ- said: Petey's on pace for 100 points. If that's underachieving, I can't imagine what your standards for him must be. I don't believe Peteys is satisfied trying to adapt to the more aggressive play. To be honest, Petey would be closer to the top 3 pointwise if Green would be more dynamic and use all his players to their max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Timråfan said: Green plays a system that doesn't fit Loui. Hell, not even Petey is a match for Greens play. Petey is frustrated and loose a lot of puck etc. It's almost only the PP that works decently for Petey due to Greens/Bennings plans for Petey. Why not start blaming Green for underachieving players? No NHL team plays a system that Loui fits, because Loui isn't an NHL player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 1 hour ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: No NHL team plays a system that Loui fits, because Loui isn't an NHL player. Maybe, but I haven't seen coach Green use his players well. So I can't say anything about Loui unless he get a coach that knows how to utilize his assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua59 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 20 hours ago, AbrasiveAjax said: For the love of god give it a rest! Enough already How about the Canucks give it a rest and not play this dud? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua59 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 21 hours ago, Timråfan said: It was only the PP that was good/lucky so what are you talking about? We had ridiculus luck that got the puck in with as few shots we had... Was it 3 shots and 3 goals first? Well 5 pp goals were not all luck. Are you defending the dud Erikkson? They are far better without this cull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, aqua59 said: Well 5 pp goals were not all luck. Are you defending the dud Erikkson? They are far better without this cull. I'm very much against bullying that affects the team. Then I haven't seen any good stuff from Green either so I can't say anything about Loui with green as coach. I rather see our players win games without the luck parimeter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Timråfan said: Maybe, but I haven't seen coach Green use his players well. So I can't say anything about Loui unless he get a coach that knows how to utilize his assets. Oh that's right I was trying to place you. You are the person who blamed everyone else (including the coach) except the player when Dahlen couldn't make it in the AHL and headed back to second tier hockey in Sweden. Now the coach is responsible for the fact LE can't keep up with the speed of the game, has only scored 76 points in 208 games while being paid $28 Million for his efforts. Pettersson is 8th in the league in scoring for forwards this year. He has 94 points in 94 games played under TG. I will take TG's approach over your ridiculous attempt to blame the coach for the fact LE is done in this league. Edited November 23, 2019 by Borvat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 8 hours ago, Timråfan said: Green plays a system that doesn't fit Loui. Hell, not even Petey is a match for Greens play. Petey is frustrated and loose a lot of puck etc. It's almost only the PP that works decently for Petey due to Greens/Bennings plans for Petey. Why not start blaming Green for underachieving players? Lol.. your comparing Petey to LE.. do you realize that? EP40 shoots, hits, passes, scores. LE is nothing here,. Zilch , Take him back to Sweden please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, Borvat said: Oh that's right I was trying to place you. You are the person who blamed everyone else (including the coach) except the player when Dahlen couldn't make it in the AHL and headed back to second tier hockey in Sweden. Well, Uticas coaches and Benning didn't handle that cas appropriate.. Dahlen is/was an unexperienced player. Why blame him? There is a reason why man management is a key feature for coaches GMs. 10 minutes ago, Borvat said: Now the coach is responsible for the fact LE can't keep up with the speed of the game, has only scored 76 points in 208 games and has been paid $28 Million. Greens strategy isn't suitable for Loui as other posters talked about in this thread. Your concern is about money and cap space, not Loui... 10 minutes ago, Borvat said: Pettersson is 8th in the league in scoring for forwards. I will take TG's approach over your ridiculous attempt to blame the coach for the fact LE is done in this league. Petey isn't especially relaxed on the ice nowadays. So it will take him some time to learn the trade of the 1st center Green and Benning want him to be. If Green had used him as winger a couple of seasons he would have smashed the record book completely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Just now, SilentSam said: Lol.. your comparing Petey to LE.. do you realize that? EP40 shoots, hits, passes, scores. LE is nothing here,. Zilch , Take him back to Sweden please. Well, I haven't much faith in you trying to understand my post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Timråfan said: Well, Uticas coaches and Benning didn't handle that cas appropriate.. Dahlen is/was an unexperienced player. Why blame him? There is a reason why man management is a key feature for coaches GMs. Dahlen wasn't good enough and may never be. Don't blame everyone else because he was too immature to deal with it. That's what he did and now he is in Sweden and may have hurt his chances if he did want to return. 7 minutes ago, Timråfan said: Greens strategy isn't suitable for Loui as other posters talked about in this thread. Your concern is about money and cap space, not Loui... Loui isn't suitable for the new NHL. My concern is he is causing the team that paid him to perform (which he isn't/can't) cap problems instead of paying players who can perform and deserve to play. 7 minutes ago, Timråfan said: Petey isn't especially relaxed on the ice nowadays. So it will take him some time to learn the trade of the 1st center Green and Benning want him to be. If Green had used him as winger a couple of seasons he would have smashed the record book completely. He isn't relaxed? He is competitive - he has never looked relaxed. 94 points in 94 games. Does McDavid ever look relaxed? Crosby? Smashed the record books? What are you even trying to say? So if TG played him on wing he would have broken all the records for rookie players and then would be groomed to be a dominant center? Do you read what you have typed before you hit submit? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crobar Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Green might not be the best coach but you cant defend the play of Loui or Dahlen by laying their blame on other people, Schaller is outplaying Loui for gods sake. WAKE UP 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Timråfan said: Well, I haven't much faith in you trying to understand my post... You bought into Erikssons excuses,. Your not eye to eye with his Coach either. I go off level of play, Eriksson has had 3 years of opportunity, he is supposed to be elite, and bring his game for a team to play with... he has proved to be less than all of that and not worthy of holding a position in the NHL. Careers end for many reasons.. but this is a player that would rather not retire gracefully.. he would rather stay to collect money whilst offering a disgraceful level of work for the big money he signed for.. there’s something wrong with that. If a contractor is paid to build your home,. and he puts up one wall and leaves. Would you continue to pay him? Would you ask for the total amount you paid him for the job back, minus the one wall? Would you actually pay him the full amount of the contract for one wall? To me , situations like this in sports should be as arbitrary for the franchise paying the player,. as they are for a player looking for a fair contract for his work. Edited November 23, 2019 by SilentSam 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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