reyezone Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, Kanukfanatic said: Hey Loui......you are going to Utica soon you trainwreck!!! He may not be able to hear your cheeky ridicule with his contract stuffed in his ears. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, reyezone said: He may not be able to hear your cheeky ridicule with his contract stuffed in his ears. Touché 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 18 hours ago, smithers joe said: louie will be here until JB decides what to do. i don’t think, what the fans want even enters his thinking. thankful we only have one gm. No, but you can be damn sure Green's does. Can't see Green ok'ing Motte or Schaller waived, and likely lost ,over Eriksson if everyone's indeed healthy. That said, Ferland seemingly having turned to glass might be enough to keep him as 14th F for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, aGENT said: No, but you can be damn sure Green's does. Can't see Green ok'ing Motte or Schaller waived, and likely lost ,over Eriksson if everyone's indeed healthy. That said, Ferland seemingly having turned to glass might be enough to keep him as 14th F for now. well if your talking to green or benning and they tell you why he isn’t waved, please let us know, better to know the truth than beat a dead horse? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just now, smithers joe said: well if your talking to green or benning and they tell you why he isn’t waved, please let us know, better to know the truth than beat a dead horse? Oh I know why he hasn't been waived yet. No need to talk to Green or Benning, it's clearly injuries. We haven't had a healthy roster from day one and it's allowed space to carry LE as a depth, NHL capable, spare and keep him from riding buses in Utica. If we ever get healthy (not remotely a given...just look at Ferland, injured again) and with the won't-be-denied addition of Gaudette to that depth, there's zero chance they waive either Motte or Schaller to keep Loui up. But if there's a guy or two injured the rest of the year, he'll likely still be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, aGENT said: Oh I know why he hasn't been waived yet. No need to talk to Green or Benning, it's clearly injuries. We haven't had a healthy roster from day one and it's allowed space to carry LE as a depth, NHL capable, spare and keep him from riding buses in Utica. If we ever get healthy (not remotely a given...just look at Ferland, injured again) and with the won't-be-denied addition of Gaudette to that depth, there's zero chance they waive either Motte or Schaller to keep Loui up. But if there's a guy or two injured the rest of the year, he'll likely still be here. running with 7 d also makes this possible. I do recall someone predicting that earlier this year..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: running with 7 d also makes this possible. I do recall someone predicting that earlier this year..... It does Can't say I agree with that either but thus far it's worked out ok. Benn being able to play both sides likely helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, aGENT said: It does Can't say I agree with that either but thus far it's worked out ok. Benn being able to play both sides likely helps. i didn't think they'd go with 7 this long, but so far its worked out. Man, Loui's free agent year, what a turd for so many teams. So far the only team thats benefitted is Edmonton by getting Neal. Where's our Calgary, huh? why can't we find a team like that to take Loui? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: i didn't think they'd go with 7 this long, but so far its worked out. Man, Loui's free agent year, what a turd for so many teams. So far the only team thats benefitted is Edmonton by getting Neal. Where's our Calgary, huh? why can't we find a team like that to take Loui? If it wasn't for the extra year, I'd happily do a Ladd exchange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 I tell you guys I believe there is an agreement in place to keep Eriksson up this year, and he will retire after he has been given is July bonus Think about it this way, he is still a usable bench warmer at this point, so there is little difference to the team whether it is him or someone else I think this is the cleanest, least expensive way to save future cap Bottom line Eriksson retires after he get his 4 million dollar bonus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 The other scenario, I think it is a lesser possibility to Ottawa after next year bonus is paid as they are loosing a lot of their dead contracts next year, as they come to their completion and will need some dead cap players.....Loui fits the bill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) Actually @Jimmy McGill, I wonder if LAK would consider a Brown swap for Eriksson + a prospect or two. Same contact expiry but Brown's at least a semi productive, physical, 0.5'ish PPG player who could slot in to our middle 6. Might even be a good fit with Horvat. Eriksson + Goldobin + Lockwood +... Edited December 11, 2019 by aGENT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, aGENT said: Actually @Jimmy McGill, I wonder if LAK would consider a Brown swap for Eriksson + a prospect or two. Same contact expiry but Brown's at least a semi productive, physical, 0.5'ish PPG player who could slot in to our middle 6. Might even be a good fit with Horvat. Eriksson + Goldobin + Lockwood +... Brown would look better than a Ferland who can't play. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, gurn said: Brown would look better than a Ferland who can't play. Would save them actual cash too (while saving us $125k in cap)... Somebody get Benning on the hotline! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombieksa Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 27 minutes ago, gurn said: Brown would look better than a Ferland who can't play. I've always liked Brown as a player. He may be dumb as a potato but he still puts up points. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, aGENT said: Actually @Jimmy McGill, I wonder if LAK would consider a Brown swap for Eriksson + a prospect or two. Same contact expiry but Brown's at least a semi productive, physical, 0.5'ish PPG player who could slot in to our middle 6. Might even be a good fit with Horvat. Eriksson + Goldobin + Lockwood +... I'd be happy with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, aGENT said: Actually @Jimmy McGill, I wonder if LAK would consider a Brown swap for Eriksson + a prospect or two. Same contact expiry but Brown's at least a semi productive, physical, 0.5'ish PPG player who could slot in to our middle 6. Might even be a good fit with Horvat. Eriksson + Goldobin + Lockwood +... Better luck winning the 649 No way LA trade their 2 time Cup winning Captain for that package. No matter he's not the captain now or the player he once was. No bonuses on his contract, 4 mill per yr next 2 yrs. LE has 4 mill in bonuses alone. IF they want to get rid of Brown badly they would send him to a contender and eat cap. They'd never treat a 2 time Cup captain in a bad way. I think he retires a King. He's not going anywhere. Edited December 12, 2019 by WHL rocks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, WHL rocks said: Better luck winning the 649 No way LA trade their 2 time Cup winning Captain for that package. No matter he's not the captain now or the player he once was. No bonuses on his contract, 4 mill per yr next 2 yrs. LE has 4 mill in bonuses alone. IF they want to get rid of Brown badly they would send him to a contender and eat cap. They'd never treat a 2 time Cup captain in a bad way. I think he retires a King. He's not going anywhere. I didn't actually specify a final package. Brown's owed more actual cash. Sending him to a team on the rise for a shot at playoffs is 'treating him badly'? LAK's are rebuilding. I agree he likely does retire a King (was just spit-balling) but the Kings need rebuild assets. Turning Brown in to some of those assets is not entirely out of left field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, aGENT said: I didn't actually specify a final package. Brown's owed more actual cash. Sending him to a team on the rise for a shot at playoffs is 'treating him badly'? LAK's are rebuilding. I agree he likely does retire a King (was just spit-balling) but the Kings need rebuild assets. Turning Brown in to some of those assets is not entirely out of left field. You specified Eriksson + Goldobin + Lockwood... Brown owed 4 mill per yr next 2 seasons. LE same.. but out of that 8 mill each LE owed 4 mill in bonuses up front.. meaning Brown can be bought out for 5.33 mill.... LE buy out would be for around 6.66 mill actual dollars.... what good would LE do for them. At least Brown can be a 3rs line leader cup winner captain for their youth. you would have to give up a 1st and a very good prospect to get rid of LE. ie Madden + 1st like TML paid 1st for 1 yr of Marleau. LE has 2 more yrs after this one. And CAR wanted Marleau to play for them. LA already stuck with Kovy like we are with LE edit I think LE takes his 3 mill signing bonus next July 1st and retires or comes down with a mysterious injury or illness next summer so he can be placed on LTIR for remaining 2 yrs of his contract. Edited December 12, 2019 by WHL rocks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, WHL rocks said: You specified Eriksson + Goldobin + Lockwood... Brown owed 4 mill per yr next 2 seasons. LE same.. but out of that 8 mill each LE owed 4 mill in bonuses up front.. meaning Brown can be bought out for 5.33 mill.... LE buy out would be for around 6.66 mill actual dollars.... what good would LE do for them. At least Brown can be a 3rs line leader cup winner captain for their youth. you would have to give up a 1st and a very good prospect to get rid of LE. ie Madden + 1st like TML paid 1st for 1 yr of Marleau. LE has 2 more yrs after this one. And CAR wanted Marleau to play for them. LA already stuck with Kovy like we are with LE edit I think LE takes his 3 mill signing bonus next July 1st and retires or comes down with a mysterious injury or illness next summer so he can be placed on LTIR for remaining 2 yrs of his contract. You're dropping a '+' and a '?' from what I 'specified'. LE's salary is only $1m salary this year. Brown's is $5.5. Just for easy math, if they got traded at the half way point, that would be $500k for Loui and $2.75m for Brown. AKA a $2.25m actual cash savings for LAK. If the trade happens after LE's bonus this summer, he'd only be owed $5m over 2 years vs Brown's $8m. That's a $3m savings for them. Like I said, they'd save money. While adding rebuild assets. I'd be thrilled if LE took his bonus and retired. That may be wishful thinking though. And if it doesn't happen, I'd suggest this is a decent alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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