Hairy Kneel Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/19/2020 at 6:17 PM, fanfor42 said: Question. Has LE ever answered a question about whether he thinks he is producing at a level anywhere close to his contract? I recall a year ago he had a little spat in the media over TG's use of him. But I don't recall a quote from him ever that answers the very very obvious frustrations of the fan base over his lack of production - and now blocking the team from getting better due to his bloated contract. If anyone can produce a quote I think we would all love to see it. If not then the question is why does he continue to get such a seeming free ride? I know the fans post their frustrations but if he ignores that no one in the media presses him for a quote then isn't that a free ride? Sure he has a guaranteed contract but honestly how does he feel about it at this point? Is he completely unconcerned or has he tried to offer an explanation of how he feels about a 6m cap hit to his team and teammates while his production is so poor? Or was that what he thought he was doing by complaining about TG last year? HMM... I agree. Jake is constantly being raked over his game to game performance whilst the media doesn't press LE at all. That is, about his loss of any or all of his scoring touch. Is this shortfall injury related? Does he not like it here? Is he in disagreement with his deployment? Did he lose all his confidence when he got here? Is he just pulling a Messier and going through the motions? Has he lost his love for the game? Problems off the ice? Or is it mental fragility? I'd like to here his side of the 6 million dollar story. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fanfor42 Posted November 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2020 54 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said: I agree. Jake is constantly being raked over his game to game performance whilst the media doesn't press LE at all. That is, about his loss of any or all of his scoring touch. Is this shortfall injury related? Does he not like it here? Is he in disagreement with his deployment? Did he lose all his confidence when he got here? Is he just pulling a Messier and going through the motions? Has he lost his love for the game? Problems off the ice? Or is it mental fragility? I'd like to here his side of the 6 million dollar story. Thank you. I find it so odd that the media takes the position that it isn't controversial enough to deal with. They are only interested in creating storms over Virt or Boes or Juolevi because these create hits and emotional responses. Great to have someone see things the same way. We need to ask them more about this. I wish the media would stop picking on the players who are young and we want on the team just to create a twitter storm - and let's actually ask LE what he thinks. Cheers. 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dazzle Posted November 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/29/2020 at 8:36 AM, crobar said: Just so we have some context, how old is this, 6 7 or more years ago makes this irrelevant today. Just to have some context, that poster was the same guy bashing Benning preemptively for getting rid of Dahlen. The poster also claimed that the Canucks "mishandled" Dahlen, who DEMANDED a trade in the same year that he was in the AHL. He didn't wait to see what would happen next year after some offseason training. And after Dahlen went back to the Swedish hockey league, he went back to the second tier Swedish league - not the first. You're right that there's context. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 On 11/29/2020 at 2:18 PM, goog16 said: The only positive is that he will be gone in 2 years!!!! Hopefully sooner. AHL here LE comes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 On 11/30/2020 at 8:59 PM, Dazzle said: Just to have some context, that poster was the same guy bashing Benning preemptively for getting rid of Dahlen. The poster also claimed that the Canucks "mishandled" Dahlen, who DEMANDED a trade in the same year that he was in the AHL. He didn't wait to see what would happen next year after some offseason training. And after Dahlen went back to the Swedish hockey league, he went back to the second tier Swedish league - not the first. You're right that there's context. Well, it has surfaced a lot of abuse from coaches around the league. And it probably gets worse the lower tier in NA you get. So the neanderthal thinking in NA I talked about exists. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, Timråfan said: Well, it has surfaced a lot of abuse from coaches around the league. And it probably gets worse the lower tier in NA you get. So the neanderthal thinking in NA I talked about exists. Because if neaderthal thinking exists, as you said it, Pettersson wouldn't have made it right? What about Lindholm? What about Backstrom? SO many excuses for Dahlen, but rather than wait out the AHL season, have a decent offseason and come back fighting for an NHL spot, he pouts. So how does he do on the SJ that could have used him? Yeah... they didn't want him either. SO many excuses for Swedish players... yet the Swedish players who made it contradict your 'neanderthal' theory. Truly asinine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 38 minutes ago, Dazzle said: Because if neaderthal thinking exists, as you said it, Pettersson wouldn't have made it right? What about Lindholm? What about Backstrom? SO many excuses for Dahlen, but rather than wait out the AHL season, have a decent offseason and come back fighting for an NHL spot, he pouts. So how does he do on the SJ that could have used him? Yeah... they didn't want him either. SO many excuses for Swedish players... yet the Swedish players who made it contradict your 'neanderthal' theory. Truly asinine. I actually think Benning should have sent Dahlen to Timrå at once instead of AHL. It was a pain for Dahlen to know that it went downhill for the team he loved. Psychology is something very important. And if you want goons only you get goons, or drones if it's more suitable. Benning showed a player that was teamfriendly in mind if you nurture it. Benning showed he didn't understand the situation. Go to Dahlens thread if you want to discuss mor. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 4 hours ago, Dazzle said: Because if neaderthal thinking exists, as you said it, Pettersson wouldn't have made it right? What about Lindholm? What about Backstrom? SO many excuses for Dahlen, but rather than wait out the AHL season, have a decent offseason and come back fighting for an NHL spot, he pouts. So how does he do on the SJ that could have used him? Yeah... they didn't want him either. SO many excuses for Swedish players... yet the Swedish players who made it contradict your 'neanderthal' theory. Truly asinine. Naslund, Ohlund, and the Sedins developed just fine under Crawford, who's one of the so-called "Neanderthals". Occam's razor would tend to suggest that Dahlen has no one to blame but himself, just like our 6 million dollar floater. LE should join Dahlen in Sweden where none of the big mean coaches will hurt his feelings by calling out his atrocious play and telling him to at least try to play like an NHLer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dats hockey Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 19 hours ago, Timråfan said: I actually think Benning should have sent Dahlen to Timrå at once instead of AHL. It was a pain for Dahlen to know that it went downhill for the team he loved. Psychology is something very important. And if you want goons only you get goons, or drones if it's more suitable. Benning showed a player that was teamfriendly in mind if you nurture it. Benning showed he didn't understand the situation. Go to Dahlens thread if you want to discuss mor. The only person to blame for Dahlen’s demise is Dahlen. There is a certain level of work ethic you need to make the NHL and he wasn’t even close. Despite loving his skill set I stop caring about him when I heard of his poor worth ethic. Let him have it easy in the lower league in Sweden. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Dats hockey said: The only person to blame for Dahlen’s demise is Dahlen. There is a certain level of work ethic you need to make the NHL and he wasn’t even close. Despite loving his skill set I stop caring about him when I heard of his poor worth ethic. Let him have it easy in the lower league in Sweden. Yep! in ten years time he's going to be saying "If only, if only I wouldn't be working as a postman now) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 On 11/29/2020 at 3:18 PM, goog16 said: The only positive is that he will be gone in 2 years!!!! I am guessing one year..... This will be a short season so may as well as take the lumps. Either buy him out or hope for a retirement for next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackcanuck Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) Edited December 14, 2020 by Mackcanuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 18 minutes ago, Mackcanuck said: interesting. Usually when GMs say things like "as of right now" that doesn't bode well for the future for the player. We all knew there was no way to dump Loui that wasn't prohibitively expensive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Bang Boogie Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Have to wonder how Loui feels about this. It's clear the team doesn't want him and is trying to move on from him but they just can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 I was just reading where Miikka Kiprusoff walked away from $5.8 Million rather than stealing it for one season the article said I wonder how many others have actually done that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 2 hours ago, ba;;isticsports said: I was just reading where Miikka Kiprusoff walked away from $5.8 Million rather than stealing it for one season the article said I wonder how many others have actually done that? Markus Naslund retired with at least one year left on his deal with the Rangers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 2 hours ago, ba;;isticsports said: I was just reading where Miikka Kiprusoff walked away from $5.8 Million rather than stealing it for one season the article said I wonder how many others have actually done that? That was the cap hit. The salary of that final season was 1.5M. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 On 12/3/2020 at 1:10 PM, Bang Bang Boogie said: Have to wonder how Loui feels about this. It's clear the team doesn't want him and is trying to move on from him but they just can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Anyone hopes he gets stuck in Sweden? Assuming here's there and not in Vancouver right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 His signing bonus is 3 million this year (1 million salary). His bonus next year is only 1 million with a 3 million dollar salary. The time to get rid of Eriksson via trade or retirement is now. Since that is not happening we might buy him out his last season. Next year we need to sign Hughes, Pettersson but have Pearson, Sutter, Baertschi, Edler, Spooner, and Benn coming off the books. An Eriksson buyout would save an additional 2 million. The year after he would be carrying an extra 1 million but Luongo is off the books then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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