Neversummer Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Bennings loyalty to players on his previous roster does him in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Loui is not a sniper and probably not the best guy to be the primary chance generator on his line. If you look at a lot of his goals last year they are opportunistic, many are simply garbage collection in front of the net. He plays on a team that doesnt generate much, hence cant be opportunistic. Best guy to put him with IMHO is Bo. Bo drives to the net, generates his own chances...Loui just has to be parked nearby to collect the rebounds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) 12 hours ago, Lancaster said: The 3 top wingmans for the Sedins were Burrows, Samuelsson and Carter. Each of them compliment the Sedins by bringing someone the twins don't do. Burrows.... create off the rush, crashes the net, do the spadework to retrieve the puck. Samuelsson.... shoots from anywhere and everywhere, the right-hand shot Carter.... around the net, willing to shoot, right-hand shot Eriksson needs to stop emulating what the Sedins do, and just simplify his game. Henrik and Daniel doesn't need anyone player to cycle the puck in the corner with, they don't need someone to try to set them up.... they need a trigger man and someone to patrol the blue paint. I said from before free agency that Eriksson would not be a good fit with the twins other than maybe PP. He needs to be the legit top 6, veteran skill on a 2nd line with some mix of Baer, Granlund, Rodin (when healthy)...maybe Sutter. Edited October 31, 2016 by J.R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 8 minutes ago, J.R. said: I said from before free agency that Eriksson would not be a good fit with the twins other than maybe PP. He needs to be the legit top 6, veteran skill on a 2nd line with some mix of Baer, Granlund, Rodin (when healthy)...maybe Sutter. The player we want virtanen to be would be a perfect fit for the twins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 1 minute ago, Gooseberries said: The player we want virtanen to be would be a perfect fit for the twins. Virt's a long way from being able to play on the cycle IMO. His speed and physicality are certainly a good fit but he's likely going to be 3-4 years before his brain catches up with his body to play at that level IMO. And that's fine, he's only 20 bloody years old. Unfortunately the twins are likely gone by then. Virtanen fits best with Bo IMO. For now, they should be playing with one of Hansen or Sutter IMO. They're both pretty North/South guys too but they're experienced enough to at least adapt a bit of cycle game in. Retrieve pucks in corners/along boards and go to the net, get ready for prime passes and shoot, shoot, shoot. Then skate like the wind to get back if the puck starts heading to our zone. Sutter would help Hank out on draws too (they could share the load on their strong sides and 'cheat' a bit more with a nice backup C if they get waived). Sedin, Sedin, Sutter Baer, Granlund, Eriksson (O zone starts/ easier match ups) Virtanen, Horvat, Hansen (shut down/counter punch) Burr, Gaunce, Dorsett, Skille, Zalewki etc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neversummer Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Every damn year ... 'who plays with the Sedins?' Let's get Vrbata, let's get Erikson. It's a friggin cycle all right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 15 minutes ago, Neversummer said: Every damn year ... 'who plays with the Sedins?' Let's get Vrbata, let's get Erikson. It's a friggin cycle all right. The Eriksson slow start was a bit surprising to me since the 3 of them have had previous chemistry representing Sweden. I think it'll come together, and hopefully sooner than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 On 2016-10-30 at 8:38 PM, Lancaster said: The 3 top wingmans for the Sedins were Burrows, Samuelsson and Carter. Each of them compliment the Sedins by bringing someone the twins don't do. Burrows.... create off the rush, crashes the net, do the spadework to retrieve the puck. Samuelsson.... shoots from anywhere and everywhere, the right-hand shot Carter.... around the net, willing to shoot, right-hand shot Eriksson needs to stop emulating what the Sedins do, and just simplify his game. Henrik and Daniel doesn't need anyone player to cycle the puck in the corner with, they don't need someone to try to set them up.... they need a trigger man and someone to patrol the blue paint. |Ever consider that it is the Twin's game that is failing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 16 hours ago, Neversummer said: Every damn year ... 'who plays with the Sedins?' Let's get Vrbata, let's get Erikson. It's a friggin cycle all right. Too bad the Sedins weren't identical triplets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 33 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said: Too bad the Sedins weren't identical triplets! Alf still thinks Sam Reinhart is the perfect triplet. "Knock ... knock" It's Christopher Tanev! Ding Dong Still Tanev.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackcanuck Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) Eriksson has a recent history of slow starts — 2015-16: Two goals first 10 games, nine-game goal drought, 30 goals. — 2014-15: Two goals first 14 games, 12-game goal drought, 22 goals. — 2013-14: Two goals first 11 games 11-game goal drought, 10 goals (61 games, concussions). Good read here http://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/kuzma-eriksson-has-a-history-of-emerging-from-slow-starts-scoring-droughts?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter "Loui Eriksson wasn’t second-guessing himself but Sven Baertschi was Monday. That’s the difference between an experienced sniper like Eriksson — who has a history of emerging from slow starts and prolonged scoring droughts — and Baertschi, who is thinking too much about missing nets and hitting posts and crossbars. The wingers have yet to score through nine National Hockey League games, and if the Vancouver Canucks expect any measure of success on a tough six-game road trip that opens Wednesday in Montreal, Eriksson and Baertschi have to produce more than just predictable responses to their respective struggles." Edited November 1, 2016 by Mackcanuck 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 8 hours ago, Alflives said: Alf still thinks Sam Reinhart is the perfect triplet. "Knock ... knock" It's Christopher Tanev! Ding Dong Still Tanev.... Keep knocking. Isn't going to happen. I still think that he's going to turn out almost as good as Eichel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 33 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said: Keep knocking. Isn't going to happen. I still think that he's going to turn out almost as good as Eichel. Even if for Tanev, a 1st (10-15th?) and say one of Rodin/Baer/Granlund...? And not now (especially with Eichel out). Either later this year or in the summer ahead of the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 33 minutes ago, J.R. said: Even if for Tanev, a 1st (10-15th?) and say one of Rodin/Baer/Granlund...? And not now (especially with Eichel out). Either later this year or in the summer ahead of the draft. Then the Sabres would be answering:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible.dee Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 On 10/31/2016 at 10:11 AM, J.R. said: I said from before free agency that Eriksson would not be a good fit with the twins other than maybe PP. He needs to be the legit top 6, veteran skill on a 2nd line with some mix of Baer, Granlund, Rodin (when healthy)...maybe Sutter. He needs to be on an established contending team I've said since day one this signing is terrible, and I still believe he'll get to 55pts this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 2 hours ago, J.R. said: Even if for Tanev, a 1st (10-15th?) and say one of Rodin/Baer/Granlund...? And not now (especially with Eichel out). Either later this year or in the summer ahead of the draft. Next year's draft is supposed to be a mediocre one just like this years was (except for Matthews). Tanev is a lower scoring semi-injury prone right handed shooter who turns 27 next month. The Sabres have a need for a young mid-scoring d-man who's decent in his own end, left handed shot who will grow up with the rest of the young guys on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 13 hours ago, SabreFan1 said: Next year's draft is supposed to be a mediocre one just like this years was (except for Matthews). Tanev is a lower scoring semi-injury prone right handed shooter who turns 27 next month. The Sabres have a need for a young mid-scoring d-man who's decent in his own end, left handed shot who will grow up with the rest of the young guys on the team. Next year's doesn't have a ton of top flight offensive players or 'generational' McDavid's etc but it is fairly rich in D and two way guys. Just not a ton of 'wow' guys but you need those other guys to win too. They do certainly need a LD but they also could use a guy who highly limits opposition chances, moves the puck well and could be a stable, veteran presence IMO. And let's face it, Bogosian, so far, has been a disappointment (and more of a health/injury concern than Tanev frankly). In a Tanev acquisition scenario, I'm assuming they'd move him in a separate deal. Maybe for a top 4 left D. Or perhaps we also throw in one of our young left D as a potential guy for them too. Doubt they'd want Sbisa but him and Tanev would actually make a pretty solid shut down pair IMO. But we also have Pedan, Brisebois etc. Brisebois could be intriguing for BUF actually. Still likely 1-2 years away but he's got the pedigree IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 5 hours ago, J.R. said: Next year's doesn't have a ton of top flight offensive players or 'generational' McDavid's etc but it is fairly rich in D and two way guys. Just not a ton of 'wow' guys but you need those other guys to win too. They do certainly need a LD but they also could use a guy who highly limits opposition chances, moves the puck well and could be a stable, veteran presence IMO. And let's face it, Bogosian, so far, has been a disappointment (and more of a health/injury concern than Tanev frankly). In a Tanev acquisition scenario, I'm assuming they'd move him in a separate deal. Maybe for a top 4 left D. Or perhaps we also throw in one of our young left D as a potential guy for them too. Doubt they'd want Sbisa but him and Tanev would actually make a pretty solid shut down pair IMO. But we also have Pedan, Brisebois etc. Brisebois could be intriguing for BUF actually. Still likely 1-2 years away but he's got the pedigree IMO. Also, a big problem for the Sabres with moving a player like Reinhart is Kane's status with the team. If GMTM isn't already looking to move Kane, the ownership will force GMTM to unload him if he gets in trouble with the law again. Losing both Kane and Reinhart would cripple the Sabres' scoring. They have only scored 22 goals in 9 games without Eichel and Kane. That's not Canucks-level bad, but it is still not good. GMTM will most likely trade Kane for a good D-man instead of Reinhart. Unfortunately Tyler Myers didn't perform well for the Sabres after his rookie season. If he had, the Kane trade would never have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 21 hours ago, SabreFan1 said: Also, a big problem for the Sabres with moving a player like Reinhart is Kane's status with the team. If GMTM isn't already looking to move Kane, the ownership will force GMTM to unload him if he gets in trouble with the law again. Losing both Kane and Reinhart would cripple the Sabres' scoring. They have only scored 22 goals in 9 games without Eichel and Kane. That's not Canucks-level bad, but it is still not good. GMTM will most likely trade Kane for a good D-man instead of Reinhart. Unfortunately Tyler Myers didn't perform well for the Sabres after his rookie season. If he had, the Kane trade would never have happened. Why would the Sabres even consider trading Reinhart? If he isn't core on that team then who is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 1 hour ago, Boudrias said: Why would the Sabres even consider trading Reinhart? If he isn't core on that team then who is? That's the point that I'm making. Reinhart and Eichel have excellent chemistry. The only time Reinhart's name has ever come up in a trade talk was when the Sabres were trying to trade for Patrick Kane when his status was up in the air with the Blackhawks. With the exception of a trade like that, Reinhart is untouchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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