Adarsh Sant Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Jim Benning joined the Canucks on May 23, 2014. It has been over 2 years since then and he has made many trades, acquisitions and moves. Obviously 2 years isn't a whole lot of time to retool a franchise, but how do you think he's done overall? If you had to grade him out of 10 what would it be? Favourite trade? Least favourite? I'd give him a 8.5/ 10 My favourite trade has to be the Mcann Gudbranson trade. My least favourite trade is the Kesler trade, but I understand Benning didn't have a lot to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyM Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Most of his moves are moves for the future and can't be graded immediately. But the very fact that most of his moves are moves for the future makes me happy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Considering JB/TL are still in the process of cleaning up the mess they inherited, I'm still reserving any form of judgment other than to say I feel he's done well thus far and has the club in a better place than when he got here overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Guru Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 I would suggest that the Kesler trade was quite good given the large list of trade partners RK provided. My least favourite trade would be a 2nd for Vey, but hindsight is 20/20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonass Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Just now, Fanuck said: Considering JB/TL are still in the process of cleaning up the mess they inherited, I'm still reserving any form of judgment other than to say I feel he's done well thus far and has the club in a better place than when he got here overall. I agree its too early to judge. I like the moves he has made but still think the trade deadline and draft had potential moves to be made. Hopefully he\they get at least 5 years (3 more) to better see the results of their plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 This team is night and day compared to the one he inherited. His plan is even easier to see now than it was when people were all over him during his first 2 years. Say what you will but he has rebuilt the team. There are a handful of prospects in the system and if only 2 pan out it would put us ahead of where we were years ago. I'm not rah rah JB homer; he hasn't been perfect but has done decent enough with what had to work with. The wankers who whine about his moves and call for his termination aren't really seeing the big picture yet, and likely never will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 5 minutes ago, Canuck Guru said: I would suggest that the Kesler trade was quite good given the large list of trade partners RK provided. My least favourite trade would be a 2nd for Vey, but hindsight is 20/20. I can't argue with either assessment, and if the worst thing he did over the last 3 years was move a second round pick for a player who didn't work out (when another in Baer looks like he will, and Guddy certainly fills a void too) then that's a successful start in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44ever Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 3/10. we have to rate on results not potential and even if we did that there isn't much to go on. this team has absolutely no future elite talent unless demko, juolevi and boeser all go to plan and then better then expected but what are the chances of that happening. his trades are not very good. and for all the praise of his drafting skills it remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 There's some good and bad things but overall he's moving things in a good direction and the decent fan out there will understand the transition and appreciate the changes that are occurring. Tough to suddenly jump in the standings without a proper clean-out and some time to create a new identity. It's his first kick at the can as a GM. I think he's going to be very good with time in the big seat and more time with the other GMs. He's very likeable (good for fans, media and other GMs), honest, provides fair assessments, is very skilled at assessing future talent and he has a plan. He also doesn't have a problem with making the tough decisions and moving on from a fan favourite if he thinks it's the right thing to do. He's not the most comfortable in front of a microphone but I personally like that "normal person" trait that he brings. I really like him as a GM for the long-term....I just hope that the owners are patient and supportive enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyHatnDart Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Realistically, it would take ANY GM 3 full years to right the ship, considering what we had for assets and prospects. We're well on the way after 2 and a bit, IMO. As far as a review, it's too early to say still. As far as a preview, I'd say under Benning's guidance we make the playoffs this year and are legit contenders by 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalCanuck Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 So far have to say I am pretty happy with what has happened under JB. I think most of his moves have been solid and like the direction that the team is heading. Most of the haters on here are a little bit delusional in thinking what could/should be done, especially in trades that never happened, but were wished to have happened that were probably, in reality, not even a remote possibility. Also want to highlight something that I like that he does for the drafting thus far that has garnered a lot of complaints on these boards. Drafting more safer picks rather than swinging for the fences with the high risk/high reward player. When you have a prospect pool as terrible as we had, you need to stock it with as many NHL capable players as you can, even if that means 3rd/4th line potential. If you take a few big swings and miss, well, you pool doesn't get any deeper. Once a decent pool is established, then you can risk a couple picks. Also, with the few picks we have had, can't screw them up. Favorite trade: Mcann+ for Gud+ Least favorite: Not sure yet, but possibly shink for granlund (although this goes along with my previous comments about taking less risks, granlund is a 4th liner, shink remains to be seen if sticks in the nhl) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GettinGuddyWithIt Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Restocked our prospects cupboard which is Top 10 in the league and has made good trades. McCann for Gudbranson was a trade I would do again. Vey for a 2nd wasn't bad because he played over 100 games and produced points but this one was the one that was my least favourite although it was not bad. 8.8/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaramel MacKhiato Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 OP's favorite trade was the Gud trade, but the least favorite with the Kesler? You realize that the Gudbranson trade wouldn't have happened if we didn't acquire the pick we used on McCann in the Kesler trade right? Your favorite trade was a building block off your least favorite trade... Funny how that works As of now, that trades not looking too bad. With Kesler (and picks) we were able to get Gudbranson, Sutter, and Sbisa. The Vey trade pretty much ended up being Garrison for Vey, which is a good risk, and ended up being a good cap dump so we could sign a player like Eriksson or Miller. My favorite trade: the 2nd round pick for Baertschi. The B&B Combo are the most exciting to watch for sure. the least favorite: the Shinkaruk trade. I jumped out of my seat when we selected Shinkaruk, and I still think he's going to be a top 6 forward one day. Never a fan of Granlund and I can see us letting him go in a few short years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianRugby Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 2/10 Set this team back years by trading away draft picks and letting assets either wither away or leave as free agents. Refuses to rebuild. Doing the old school Maple Leafs move and trying to keep a crappy team afloat through free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Positive Canuck Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Benning inherited absolute trash in a cancer laden market. His Boeser, Demko, Tryamkin and Juolevi draft/signings will be pillars for us. 8/10 so far. Not perfect but doing a pretty damn good job. i hope he's not done adding some beef upfront to this far too soft forward core. His haters tend to bit zit bearded basement cellars slithering around in there own filth playing NHL 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewGM Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 4 million a year for an unproven goaltender???? unbelievable .. this management is insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianRugby Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Just now, TheNewGM said: 4 million a year for an unproven goaltender???? unbelievable .. this management is insane. 6 million for a past his prime vet goalie 3.6 million for a 3rd pairing D This is nothing new with this management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 so far awesome as things needed to change,only problem is I think the twins should have been traded so the team could totally go forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 1 hour ago, ThaShady1 said: Realistically, it would take ANY GM 3 full years to right the ship, considering what we had for assets and prospects. We're well on the way after 2 and a bit, IMO. As far as a review, it's too early to say still. As far as a preview, I'd say under Benning's guidance we make the playoffs this year and are legit contenders by 2020. I think this is a good call. I am repeating myself but I think that next year is the first time we can legitimately judge Benning on the basis of results. He has focused on building for the near future, not the distant future. Obviously acquiring players like Sutter, Eriksson, and Gudbranson is supposed to provide fairly quick returns. And we should get a good read on acquisitions like Pedan, Etem, and Granlund who are old enough that they are not far from entering their peak years. And by next year we should get a good read on his first class of draft picks -- Virtanen, Demko and Tryamkin, and we will get a better idea of how good Boeser and Juolevi really are. I have been critical of some of his moves and supportive of others, but of course every GM makes good moves and bad moves. Personally I dislike ending up with Sbisa instead of Hammer (who could probably be here for the same salary and is a much better defenceman). Maybe Hammer will pull a Bonino and move from the Canucks to next year's Stanley Cup winner. Like a lot of other people I like the Gudbranson for McCann trade, although the Canucks also gave up a high second round pick (and let's not forget that Loui Eriksson was a high second round pick -- a lot of good players come from the high second round). McCann is skilled, but smallish high skill forwards are a lot easier to get than young top 4 Ds, especially Ds who are 6-5, over 215 lbs, and can skate well. So I like that move, and picking up Baertschi for a second round pick was also a good move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftmN Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Can I ask why we need to be creating these threads every couple of days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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