Canuck Guru Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 I don't recall the exact date, but several years ago loud mouth Brian Burke outed then Canucks GMMG for attempting to trade Burrows and Bieksa for Victor Hedman. I believe Tampa rejected the offer. I remember reading the reaction on these boards, and Canucks fans were outraged that MGGM would even consider such an offer. At the time, it seemed ludicrous (perhaps for good reason, Burr was scoring 30+ with the twins). Fast forward 3-5 years (or whenever the offer was made), and one can conclude that Vancouver would have robbed Tampa. Perhaps GMMG would still be here. This is just food for thought. Sometimes you really can't judge a trade until several years later. And I'm bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 I'm not sure it will take 3-5 years to do the same assessment with the Hall trade..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButterBean Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 I make that trade 10/10 times. When you have the oppurtunity for a bonafide #1 defenseman you take it. Bieksa was a high character guy but not someone who makes other players around him better. And Burrows is someone who we should've sold high on as much as I hate to say it. He just had good chemistry with the Sedins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Gillis then suggested things are personal between Burke and the Canucks. Gillis said he doesn’t believe it’s a coincidence that this happened and that the Leafs were the team which appeared to tamper with the Sedin twins in June. That’s when Ron Wilson suggested Burke was targetting the twins in free agency.In the special, Burke is caught rumour mongering. He makes an admittedly unsubstantiated claim, alleging the Canucks made a strong push for Victor Hedman, offering Kevin Bieksa and Alex Burrows.Gillis talked to those players Wednesday.“Because it was coming from a general manager from another team,” Gillis said when asked why he approached Bieksa and Burrows. “When something’s written in an Ottawa newspaper by Bruce Garrioch, everyone laughs about it. But when it comes from a person in authority, who is supposed to have inside knowledge of these things, it lends itself to think there may be some truth to it. I wanted to make sure those guys knew (it wasn’t true). We are trying to win here. You can't judge the trade value when it involves a prospect until said prospect matures? You don't say. Did MG make the offer? I don't know. At the time it would have been a large step backwards for us. Burr and Bieksa were badass good then, and Hedman wouldn't have really helped us until after the 2011 Finals. And who would have knocked the Hawks out? Or the Sharks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Juice Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 I don't think Hedman would have had the success he's having now if he was traded here. His development might've gone a different way and he wouldn't be the player he is today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GettinGuddyWithIt Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Obviously Hedman is valuable now but what about back then? We we were a powerhouse and Bieksa was a top pair Dman while Burrows was a first liner, so these guys were the soul of the team along with the Sedins and Kesler. If we made this trade, we would've just been in prolonged mediocrity. If if this rumour was real (which I think it wasn't) I'm glad Tampa rejected it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 32 minutes ago, ButterBean said: I make that trade 10/10 times. When you have the oppurtunity for a bonafide #1 defenseman you take it. Bieksa was a high character guy but not someone who makes other players around him better. And Burrows is someone who we should've sold high on as much as I hate to say it. He just had good chemistry with the Sedins. Hindsight is always 20/20 around these parts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 1 minute ago, guntrix said: Hindsight is always 20/20 around these parts... Hindsight is 20/20 everywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losing With Pride Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Still would have made that deal and replaced Burrows via free agency or trade. Easier said than done but it's hard to land a franchise dman via trade or free agency. I make that trade instantly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Everyone and their dog makes that trade if they work for the Canucks. Even if we added our first it still would've been a great deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 There's a reason why Tampa rejected it. We probably would have had to offer Burrows, Edler, and Schneider for the deal to happen. Not worth it for us at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Hockey Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 I read there was an Edler-Hedman swap that the Canucks rejected. I'd love to get Hedman in a Canucks uni. As well as Tyler Myers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 10 hours ago, Dr. Hockey said: I read there was an Edler-Hedman swap that the Canucks rejected. I'd love to get Hedman in a Canucks uni. As well as Tyler Myers! which is why drafting is so crucial to this organizations success. Hedman and Myers were players that were drafted by their respectful organizations. and they were developed. we need to do the same. wherever we pick in the draft every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 And gillis tried to trade Edler and he tried to trade Kesler for only draft picks........hmmm maybe should have kept him we'd be rebuilt by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyM Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 12 hours ago, DeNiro said: There's a reason why Tampa rejected it. We probably would have had to offer Burrows, Edler, and Schneider for the deal to happen. Not worth it for us at the time. Yep. Hard to talk about a deal that "could've been" when it really couldn't have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanaholic Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 13 hours ago, Canuck Guru said: I don't recall the exact date, but several years ago loud mouth Brian Burke outed then Canucks GMMG for attempting to trade Burrows and Bieksa for Victor Hedman. I believe Tampa rejected the offer. I remember reading the reaction on these boards, and Canucks fans were outraged that MGGM would even consider such an offer. At the time, it seemed ludicrous (perhaps for good reason, Burr was scoring 30+ with the twins). Fast forward 3-5 years (or whenever the offer was made), and one can conclude that Vancouver would have robbed Tampa. Perhaps GMMG would still be here. This is just food for thought. Sometimes you really can't judge a trade until several years later. And I'm bored. ME 2!!!!! I am so bored . . . To be honest with you I don't remember the possibility but I would have been truly devastated - just goes to show you that the expression: "Time will Tell" sure does make sense . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hero11 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 In hindsight, do we trade away Neely? Does Pitts trade Naslund for Stojanov? Does Ottawa pick Alex Daigle first overall? over Pronger? Do we actually sign Messier to replace Linden? Sundin???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erkayloomeh Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 20 hours ago, ButterBean said: I make that trade 10/10 times. When you have the oppurtunity for a bonafide #1 defenseman you take it. Bieksa was a high character guy but not someone who makes other players around him better. And Burrows is someone who we should've sold high on as much as I hate to say it. He just had good chemistry with the Sedins. I think burr did alot of.good things aside from the sedins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 On July 7, 2016 at 11:53 PM, Green Building said: Hindsight is 20/20 everywhere not if alcohol is involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 our team was different and they rejected us but we rejected them,to bad we couldn't have had an offer that worked for both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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