How to be a Canuck Fan in the face of all the Eastern ack ack

[fanfor42]

I hear over and over that it's tough to be a Canuck fan these days.  The media is owned by Rogers and Shaw. The audience is the east. Everything we get is geared toward the eastern audience. The evidence is in, over and over the media loves to bash the Canucks and lift the Leafs.

 

So what do we do?

 

First of all let's remember who Canadians are.  in WWII many young Canadian men flew pathfinder mission. This was an extremely dangerous assignment flying bombing missions over Germany mostly at night.  Many, many young men lost their lives on pathfinder mission.  In fact it was viewed as one of the most dangerous assignments Canadian boys could sign up for. Losses were in the tens of thousands of Canadians.

 

My dad flew two tours on Pathfinder mission as a navigator on Lancaster bombers. He survived and came back to Canada where the government sponsored him to go to University as a veteran.  He became a surgeon and spent 45 years saving lives. His family was dirt poor. His dad passed away when he was only 3 and his mom raised 6 kids alone. He was the only one of his siblings to leave his hometown of Peterborough Ontario.(Ironic that he was from Ontario in a thread about eastern media bias - but true).

 

So what.  Why do  we as Canuck fans care about the story of a man who passed away 9 years ago this week. He was a great hockey fan. He was a Canuck fan and a Leafs fan. He loved a good game.

 

I`m going to offer that  the eastern media is the ack ack (anti aircraft bursts) that our good Canadian boys used to face flying pathfinder mission over Germany in WWII. It`s a fact of life. It`s something that happens daily. It isn`t something that you can wish away or hope that making a statement about it will make it go away. That ain`t gonna happen.

 

My dad would say let it pass by and keep your eye on the prize.  The cup. Our players want to win it.  Guys like Horvat want it . Juolevi will learn to want it. Boeser will learn to want it. Demko already wants it.

 

If we are gong to win the cup down the road for the first time, we have to be heroic to do it. Never done before. As fans we need to get behind the boys and help them find the courage to get the job done. Forget the eastern media ack ack. Means nothing....Just fly through it.

 

Thank you to our servicemen and women past and present...and GCG.

 

 

[chon derry]

the last game against the leafs was when we were the most depleted with injury ,out of the whole season, the next game they play won't resemble anything like that game.

[Odd.]

20 minutes ago, fanfor42 said:

I hear over and over that it's tough to be a Canuck fan these days.  The media is owned by Rogers and Shaw. The audience is the east. Everything we get is geared toward the eastern audience. The evidence is in, over and over the media loves to bash the Canucks and lift the Leafs.

 

So what do we do?

 

First of all let's remember who Canadians are.  in WWII many young Canadian men flew pathfinder mission. This was an extremely dangerous assignment flying bombing missions over Germany mostly at night.  Many, many young men lost their lives on pathfinder mission.  In fact it was viewed as one of the most dangerous assignments Canadian boys could sign up for. Losses were in the tens of thousands of Canadians.

 

My dad flew two tours on Pathfinder mission as a navigator on Lancaster bombers. He survived and came back to Canada where the government sponsored him to go to University as a veteran.  He became a surgeon and spent 45 years saving lives. His family was dirt poor. His dad passed away when he was only 3 and his mom raised 6 kids alone. He was the only one of his siblings to leave his hometown of Peterborough Ontario.(Ironic that he was from Ontario in a thread about eastern media bias - but true).

 

So what.  Why do  we as Canuck fans care about the story of a man who passed away 9 years ago this week. He was a great hockey fan. He was a Canuck fan and a Leafs fan. He loved a good game.

 

I`m going to offer that  the eastern media is the ack ack (anti aircraft bursts) that our good Canadian boys used to face flying pathfinder mission over Germany in WWII. It`s a fact of life. It`s something that happens daily. It isn`t something that you can wish away or hope that making a statement about it will make it go away. That ain`t gonna happen.

 

My dad would say let it pass by and keep your eye on the prize.  The cup. Our players want to win it.  Guys like Horvat want it . Juolevi will learn to want it. Boeser will learn to want it. Demko already wants it.

 

If we are gong to win the cup down the road for the first time, we have to be heroic to do it. Never done before. As fans we need to get behind the boys and help them find the courage to get the job done. Forget the eastern media ack ack. Means nothing....Just fly through it.

 

Thank you to our servicemen and women past and present...and GCG.

 

 

Great read +1 

 

I go on my facebook feed and all I see is Sportsnet sucking off Toronto in every single of of their posts. "Gotta See it: Matthews with the spin o rama IN DEVELOPMENT CAMP" yet he didnt get a goal or assist. Absolutely useless. "Gotta See it: Matthews gets 5 stitches on chin after high stick IN DEVELOPMENT CAMP". "ARTICLE: Why has Matthews not signed a contract yet!" 

 

All that BS. And whenever it's about the Canucks : "Article: Biggest Canadian Losers in FA!" (Canucks written all over in their article), "Ranking the top Canadian teams for next year" when it's not even SEPTEMBER and there's still 2 months to go and were already regarded as one the crappiest teams. All we get in those articles is BM, especially that article Sportsnet had about "Canucks get fined 50,000 by the NHL for tampering" etc. All negative. 

 

Hopefully the Maple Laughs don't forget they're still the reigning laughing stocks of the NHL.

[naslund.is.king]

Just gotta believe..even if you don't.. go down with the ship lol

 

[canucklehead44]

It isn't like the Vancouver media cares what the Ottawa Senators are doing. There is not much reason for hype around Vancouver anyway. If Vancouver had Matthews there would be more attention, McDavid created a lot of buzz in the hockey world both east and west coast. 

 

Also I don't know why Vancouver feels the need to be the centre of attention, look at the difference in population between the East and West. Of course the East is going to get more limelight. 

At least there isn't some strange stigma like the Raptors have in the NBA about being the only Canadian team. People outside of Vancouver just don't really care about the Canucks, and why should they?

[Positive Canuck]

Taranta trash

 

Summed up perfectly by Damien Cox

[AlwaysACanuckFan]

The best way to be a Canuck fan is to shut that nonsense out and just believe in and cheer for our team, like this....

 

 

[Roger Neilsons Towel]

36 minutes ago, fanfor42 said:

I hear over and over that it's tough to be a Canuck fan these days.  The media is owned by Rogers and Shaw. The audience is the east. Everything we get is geared toward the eastern audience. The evidence is in, over and over the media loves to bash the Canucks and lift the Leafs.

 

So what do we do?

 

First of all let's remember who Canadians are.  in WWII many young Canadian men flew pathfinder mission. This was an extremely dangerous assignment flying bombing missions over Germany mostly at night.  Many, many young men lost their lives on pathfinder mission.  In fact it was viewed as one of the most dangerous assignments Canadian boys could sign up for. Losses were in the tens of thousands of Canadians.

 

My dad flew two tours on Pathfinder mission as a navigator on Lancaster bombers. He survived and came back to Canada where the government sponsored him to go to University as a veteran.  He became a surgeon and spent 45 years saving lives. His family was dirt poor. His dad passed away when he was only 3 and his mom raised 6 kids alone. He was the only one of his siblings to leave his hometown of Peterborough Ontario.(Ironic that he was from Ontario in a thread about eastern media bias - but true).

 

So what.  Why do  we as Canuck fans care about the story of a man who passed away 9 years ago this week. He was a great hockey fan. He was a Canuck fan and a Leafs fan. He loved a good game.

 

I`m going to offer that  the eastern media is the ack ack (anti aircraft bursts) that our good Canadian boys used to face flying pathfinder mission over Germany in WWII. It`s a fact of life. It`s something that happens daily. It isn`t something that you can wish away or hope that making a statement about it will make it go away. That ain`t gonna happen.

 

My dad would say let it pass by and keep your eye on the prize.  The cup. Our players want to win it.  Guys like Horvat want it . Juolevi will learn to want it. Boeser will learn to want it. Demko already wants it.

 

If we are gong to win the cup down the road for the first time, we have to be heroic to do it. Never done before. As fans we need to get behind the boys and help them find the courage to get the job done. Forget the eastern media ack ack. Means nothing....Just fly through it.

 

Thank you to our servicemen and women past and present...and GCG.

 

 

Great read. Thank you for posting. 

 

And thank you to your late father for his bravery and service to our country. 

[Standing_Tall#37]

&^@# Toronto.

 

 I'd rather lose with the Canucks than win with the leafs.

 

and the only thing as sweet as a Canucks win in hockey is a Leafs loss...

[48MPHSlapShot]

30 minutes ago, canucklehead44 said:

It isn't like the Vancouver media cares what the Ottawa Senators are doing. There is not much reason for hype around Vancouver anyway. If Vancouver had Matthews there would be more attention, McDavid created a lot of buzz in the hockey world both east and west coast. 

 

Also I don't know why Vancouver feels the need to be the centre of attention, look at the difference in population between the East and West. Of course the East is going to get more limelight. 

At least there isn't some strange stigma like the Raptors have in the NBA about being the only Canadian team. People outside of Vancouver just don't really care about the Canucks, and why should they?

Because we're constantly being subjected to eastern media bias, while those in the east aren't constantly bombarded with our media?

[niknuk85]

27 minutes ago, canucklehead44 said:

It isn't like the Vancouver media cares what the Ottawa Senators are doing. There is not much reason for hype around Vancouver anyway. If Vancouver had Matthews there would be more attention, McDavid created a lot of buzz in the hockey world both east and west coast. 

 

Also I don't know why Vancouver feels the need to be the centre of attention, look at the difference in population between the East and West. Of course the East is going to get more limelight. 

At least there isn't some strange stigma like the Raptors have in the NBA about being the only Canadian team. People outside of Vancouver just don't really care about the Canucks, and why should they?

so if you dont live in vancouver you are not part of this great province wich only just gets better once you leave vancouver and i am hear to tell you plenty of canucks fans outside of your fishbowl

 

 

 

 

[Toews]

33 minutes ago, canucklehead44 said:

It isn't like the Vancouver media cares what the Ottawa Senators are doing. There is not much reason for hype around Vancouver anyway. If Vancouver had Matthews there would be more attention, McDavid created a lot of buzz in the hockey world both east and west coast. 

 

Also I don't know why Vancouver feels the need to be the centre of attention, look at the difference in population between the East and West. Of course the East is going to get more limelight. 

At least there isn't some strange stigma like the Raptors have in the NBA about being the only Canadian team. People outside of Vancouver just don't really care about the Canucks, and why should they?

Canucks fans have always had a persecution complex. If the "Eastern media" had a problem with Western teams they would be going after the likes of Flames, Oilers and Jets as well. Yet those teams are being largely praised for their moves but the Canucks aren't likely because the experts genuinely do not like the moves the Canucks have made. But yeah the media hates us rah rah works really well on the forum.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, fanfor42 said:

I hear over and over that it's tough to be a Canuck fan these days.  The media is owned by Rogers and Shaw. The audience is the east. Everything we get is geared toward the eastern audience. The evidence is in, over and over the media loves to bash the Canucks and lift the Leafs.

 

So what do we do?

 

First of all let's remember who Canadians are.  in WWII many young Canadian men flew pathfinder mission. This was an extremely dangerous assignment flying bombing missions over Germany mostly at night.  Many, many young men lost their lives on pathfinder mission.  In fact it was viewed as one of the most dangerous assignments Canadian boys could sign up for. Losses were in the tens of thousands of Canadians.

 

My dad flew two tours on Pathfinder mission as a navigator on Lancaster bombers. He survived and came back to Canada where the government sponsored him to go to University as a veteran.  He became a surgeon and spent 45 years saving lives. His family was dirt poor. His dad passed away when he was only 3 and his mom raised 6 kids alone. He was the only one of his siblings to leave his hometown of Peterborough Ontario.(Ironic that he was from Ontario in a thread about eastern media bias - but true).

 

So what.  Why do  we as Canuck fans care about the story of a man who passed away 9 years ago this week. He was a great hockey fan. He was a Canuck fan and a Leafs fan. He loved a good game.

 

I`m going to offer that  the eastern media is the ack ack (anti aircraft bursts) that our good Canadian boys used to face flying pathfinder mission over Germany in WWII. It`s a fact of life. It`s something that happens daily. It isn`t something that you can wish away or hope that making a statement about it will make it go away. That ain`t gonna happen.

 

My dad would say let it pass by and keep your eye on the prize.  The cup. Our players want to win it.  Guys like Horvat want it . Juolevi will learn to want it. Boeser will learn to want it. Demko already wants it.

 

If we are gong to win the cup down the road for the first time, we have to be heroic to do it. Never done before. As fans we need to get behind the boys and help them find the courage to get the job done. Forget the eastern media ack ack. Means nothing....Just fly through it.

 

Thank you to our servicemen and women past and present...and GCG.

 

 

Your dad is a hero. The fact that he would risk his life this country shows this. Tell your dad I give my thanks. #CanadaStrong

[butters]

Its just a game. Watch and enjoy. Ignore the rest. Problem solved. 

[Crabcakes]

We are all Canadians.  I've stopped listening to the "Canadian" sports media for anything but news.  The media owns the Leafs and to a lesser extent, the Habs and both teams dominate their bias.

 

Since I stopped listening to the media and paid more attention to what Benning and Linden have to say, I think that my thoughts on the Canucks rebuild have become much more clear and Bennings actions have made much more sense.  As time has gone on I think that more people on here are supporting Benning because he has stuck to his plan and the team is showing positive signe of growth.  Last season was clearly an anomaly due to long term injuries to key personnel.  I am hopeful that those injuries are behind us and that this coming season we will see a more representative result.

[canucklehead44]

35 minutes ago, niknuk85 said:

so if you dont live in vancouver you are not part of this great province wich only just gets better once you leave vancouver and i am hear to tell you plenty of canucks fans outside of your fishbowl

 

 

 

 

Lived in Vancouver & surrounding area 28 years (Langley, Surrey, White Rock, East Vancouver, Yaletown). Actually like living out of BC far more than I expected. In fact, moving away made me realized how much I really didn't like living in Vancouver. Just my preference, but I hope I get to stay out East permanently. Does not impact the fact that I am and will always be a Canucks fan. 

There aren't a whole lot of us out here (I know a couple). Surprisingly high number of Detroit Red Wings fans. 

 

35 minutes ago, Toews said:

Canucks fans have always had a persecution complex. If the "Eastern media" had a problem with Western teams they would be going after the likes of Flames, Oilers and Jets as well. Yet those teams are being largely praised for their moves but the Canucks aren't likely because the experts genuinely do not like the moves the Canucks have made. But yeah the media hates us rah rah works really well on the forum.

Overall Vancouver sees itself as a big city, but outside of Vancouver it is just a prettier version of Winnipeg/Edmonton/Calgary. Fairly small market. 

But Vancouver overall isn't particularly popular. And I have noticed, in general, hockey people seemed confused about what the Canucks are trying to do. I get it - they finished with the worst goal differential and 3rd from last place yet go out and sign an older free agent to big money? A lot of Canucks fans share the same sentiment that it is time to rebuild. 

[Undrafted]

20 minutes ago, Toews said:

Canucks fans have always had a persecution complex. If the "Eastern media" had a problem with Western teams they would be going after the likes of Flames, Oilers and Jets as well. Yet those teams are being largely praised for their moves but the Canucks aren't likely because the experts genuinely do not like the moves the Canucks have made. But yeah the media hates us rah rah works really well on the forum.

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with your assertion that the "Eastern bias" is a delusion, having lived in Toronto for ten years (2004-14).  I've mentioned recently on another thread that in Toronto, the only city Torontonians despise more than Vancouver is Montréal and it's not only when it comes to hockey or sports.  I know this because when I lived there, I took a lot of abuse just from wearing Canucks gear, including random insults from strangers (especially during the 2011 Cup run—people in cars even threw stuff at me while waiting for the bus a couple times).  I could go on for pages over the amount of dumb, ignorant and insulting stuff Torontonians have personally said to me about not just the Canucks, but the entire province of BC (and unprovoked, I must add).

 

As far as the hockey media is concerned specifically: they ARE actively pandering to the Leafs fanbase (and in turn, Torontonians will smugly say "Centre of the Universe, Baby!") and that includes bashing MTL and VAN.  Why don't they treat the Flames, Oilers and Jets with the same disdain?  Because they don't hate them as much as they hate Vancouver; they don't get the same sense of satisfying schadenfreuden from seeing the other Western teams fail as they do seeing the Habs or Canucks fail.

 

Seriously, if Toronto is the so-called "Mecca of Hockey", then Leafs Nation is the "ISIS/ISIL of Hockey"

[BowtieCanuck]

6 minutes ago, canucklehead44 said:

Lived in Vancouver & surrounding area 28 years (Langley, Surrey, White Rock, East Vancouver, Yaletown). Actually like living out of BC far more than I expected. In fact, moving away made me realized how much I really didn't like living in Vancouver. Just my preference, but I hope I get to stay out East permanently. Does not impact the fact that I am and will always be a Canucks fan. 

There aren't a whole lot of us out here (I know a couple). Surprisingly high number of Detroit Red Wings fans. 

 

Overall Vancouver sees itself as a big city, but outside of Vancouver it is just a prettier version of Winnipeg/Edmonton/Calgary. Fairly small market. 

But Vancouver overall isn't particularly popular. And I have noticed, in general, hockey people seemed confused about what the Canucks are trying to do. I get it - they finished with the worst goal differential and 3rd from last place yet go out and sign an older free agent to big money? A lot of Canucks fans share the same sentiment that it is time to rebuild. 

Vancouver has a bigger population than a lot of American cities (apart from NY,LA,CHI,DAL) so for people to consider it a big city, is correct. IIRC it's sitting around the 2-2.5 million mark (Lower Mainland as a whole in this instance). Hell, Surrey itself is larger than a lot of American cities you wouldn't think it would be.

The problem with the fans and the rebuild is the problem with society today: People say they want a rebuild, but they don't want to deal with the awkward middle part. They don't want to deal with the having to hold on to bad contracts, the trial and error that comes with prospects and they sure as hell don't want to wait for the team to develop a system that exploits the loopholes of the other teams systems.

Thats what modern hockey is, just a handful of teams developing systems that take the rest of the league a few years to figure out, at which point those handful of teams sink to the bottom of the standings because they have to wipe the slate clean.

[canucklehead44]

10 minutes ago, Undrafted said:

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with your assertion that the "Eastern bias" is a delusion, having lived in Toronto for ten years (2004-14).  I've mentioned recently on another thread that in Toronto, the only city Torontonians despise more than Vancouver is Montréal and it's not only when it comes to hockey or sports.  I know this because when I lived there, I took a lot of abuse just from wearing Canucks gear, including random insults from strangers (especially during the 2011 Cup run—people in cars even threw stuff at me while waiting for the bus a couple times).  I could go on for pages over the amount of dumb, ignorant and insulting stuff Torontonians have personally said to me about not just the Canucks, but the entire province of BC (and unprovoked, I must add).

 

As far as the hockey media is concerned specifically: they ARE actively pandering to the Leafs fanbase (and in turn, Torontonians will smugly say "Centre of the Universe, Baby!") and that includes bashing MTL and VAN.  Why don't they treat the Flames, Oilers and Jets with the same disdain?  Because they don't hate them as much as they hate Vancouver; they don't get the same sense of satisfying schadenfreuden from seeing the other Western teams fail as they do seeing the Habs or Canucks fail.

 

Seriously, if Toronto is the so-called "Mecca of Hockey", then Leafs Nation is the "ISIS/ISIL of Hockey"

Sorry to hear you had a negative experience. In Vancouver people always put down Toronto. I've never had anybody put me down for being from Vancouver. In fact, most people say that it is really nice. Yet people from Vancouver always put me down for living in Toronto, saying smug comments like "I am sorry to hear that". 

The local bar has a TV for Canucks games and I always go in with my gear. Plus I went to every Utica-Marlies game wearing my Henrik Sedin jersey and have never gotten flack. They will even ask me about who the best prospects are on the Canucks etc. There are quite a few Utica fans from Toronto because of Darren Archibald and Alex Friesen as well. 

 

As for the centre of the universe comment I only hear that from people not from Toronto. In fact, Toronto is more of a "Canada vs USA" type of rivalry from what I see. Proud to be Canadian more than being a Torontonian. Vancouver is trying to be better than other Canadian cities, vs being a proud part of the best country in the world. 

 

Leafs fans seem to really hate the Bruins, and everybody i've talked to said they supported Vancouver in the cup finals. 

[Undrafted]

2 minutes ago, canucklehead44 said:

Sorry to hear you had a negative experience. In Vancouver people always put down Toronto. I've never had anybody put me down for being from Vancouver. In fact, most people say that it is really nice. Yet people from Vancouver always put me down for living in Toronto, saying smug comments like "I am sorry to hear that". 

The local bar has a TV for Canucks games and I always go in with my gear. Plus I went to every Utica-Marlies game wearing my Henrik Sedin jersey and have never gotten flack. They will even ask me about who the best prospects are on the Canucks etc. There are quite a few Utica fans from Toronto because of Darren Archibald and Alex Friensen as well. 

The differences in our experiences may depend on where you live in Toronto: if you live/work closer to the downtown area, then yes, people there will be more polite about it, at least.  I lived/worked in North York and some of my relatives live in Etobicoke, so I was basically right in the middle of Ford Country, where they are far less "diplomatic".

 

As for people saying "I'm sorry to hear that" when you tell them you live in Toronto: well, I'd probably say the same to you, too; but not because I'm being smug or trying to be clever, it would be out of genuine sympathy.  Honestly, one of the main reasons why I moved back was because I got fed up with dealing with the anti-Vancouver bias (again, not just when it comes to hockey or sports), including from my own relatives.

 

I didn't go in with any kind of hate for Toronto or even the Leafs; Torontonians (and Leafs fans especially) earned my contempt.