Hortankin Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 TO VAN Forsberg TO NSH Edler Hansen (Baertschi?) Subban 2017 1st TO VAN Kane TO BUF Burrows Grenier 2017 3rd/4th Next year lines Sedin Sedin Eriksson Kane Sutter Forsberg Baertschi Horvat Virtanen Granlund Gaunce Etem/Dorsett Tryamkin Tanev Hutton Gudbranson Sbisa Larsen Pedan Stecher Miller Markstrom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GettinGuddyWithIt Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Why would NSH trade away Forsberg when they outright stole him from Washington? And that won't be enough to get him. The second trade may not be enough to get Kane. Maybe Sbisa and Grenier and a late draft pick or no draft picks at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I don't think Nashville would want to trade a top line player for their would be 5th best defencemen. They are poised to win a cup, if they get goaltending this year. I cannot see them interested, even with what you added. Kane has way more value than that, to Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Nirvanagut Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I remember my first beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCammer Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 22 minutes ago, McHortanen said: TO VAN Forsberg TO NSH Edler Hansen (Baertschi?) Subban 2017 1st TO VAN Kane TO BUF Burrows Grenier 2017 3rd/4th Next year lines Sedin Sedin Eriksson Kane Sutter Forsberg Baertschi Horvat Virtanen Granlund Gaunce Etem/Dorsett Tryamkin Tanev Hutton Gudbranson Sbisa Larsen Pedan Stecher Miller Markstrom Not even sure those trade offers would even work in NHL '16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hortankin Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 1 minute ago, TheCammer said: Not even sure those trade offers would even work in NHL '16. NSH could really like the idea of a Subban Subban duo. Plus a solid top 2 Dman (Edler), plus a very cheap high flying middle 6 FWD that's very veritile (Hansen) or young Top 6 projected player (Baertschi) I may be off but not as far off as some people may think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, McHortanen said: I may be off but not as far off as some people may think. Kane escaped his latest brush with the law without criminal charges, just a couple of violations (basically the legal equivalent of speeding tickets). Now that he's free and clear of any repercussions, his value just skyrocketed. He's not worth what the Sabres paid for him by any means, but he's now worth more than the crumbs that Vancouver fans thinks he is. So in short, you are far off the value of Kane now. My guess is that unless Murray gets an offer that he can't refuse, the Sabres are keeping him at least until the in-season trade deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 13 minutes ago, McHortanen said: NSH could really like the idea of a Subban Subban duo. Plus a solid top 2 Dman (Edler), plus a very cheap high flying middle 6 FWD that's very veritile (Hansen) or young Top 6 projected player (Baertschi) I may be off but not as far off as some people may think. The value isn't that far off, but Situation is very far off. They don't need defense, now or for the future. They have the best top 4 in the NHL locked up for 3 years at a pretty cheap price. and the oldest is Subban lol. And for them to give up arguably their best forward for this (need...) is just not realistic. They would want Horvat, plus a great prospect (Boeser, Virtanen etc.), plus our first for them to be interested. Might not even be enough. You would basically have to give double the value because they are in such a great position and scoring forwards is what they are looking for, not giving away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 5 minutes ago, McHortanen said: NSH could really like the idea of a Subban Subban duo. Plus a solid top 2 Dman (Edler), plus a very cheap high flying middle 6 FWD that's very veritile (Hansen) or young Top 6 projected player (Baertschi) I may be off but not as far off as some people may think. Why does NSH have any use for Edler? The already have two top pairing D who are younger and way better than Edler in Josi and Subban. Then last year Ekholm took major steps forward and will play on the 2nd pairing with Ellis. The predators aren't going to trade a 22 year old first line player (who also was their highest point player) for a middle pairing D who'd likely be on their bottom pairing in two years and a bunch of throw ins. This deal doesn't help NSH out at all. Consider that their top line is a 24 year old center, a 21 year old LW and a 28 year old RW. Followed up with a 60 point 26 year old D on one side and PK subban on the other. We have nothing to make the preds better that would have them considered moving Forsberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono2009 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Can someone tell me why everyone wants Evander Kane? The guy doesn't get it and his career looks to be flushing down the toilet. He is obviously a cancer in the locker room. No leadership on the ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 17 minutes ago, McHortanen said: NSH could really like the idea of a Subban Subban duo. Plus a solid top 2 Dman (Edler), plus a very cheap high flying middle 6 FWD that's very veritile (Hansen) or young Top 6 projected player (Baertschi) I may be off but not as far off as some people may think. Nashville is probably the only team that will protect 4Ds in expansion because their top-4 are that good and are all 27 and under. Where do you fit Edler - Ekholm-Ellis have insane chemistry and Edler will not challenge Josi for the 1st pairing. They are looking for a top-6 LW, so trading Forsberg would weaken the side where they need players. Right now it's probably Jarnkrok but they were rumoured to be after Eriksson and Ladd. (Jarnkrok) Johansen Neal Forsberg Ribeiro Smith Wilson Fisher Arvidsson x Sissons Watson Josi Subban Ellis Ekholm Bitetto Weber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCammer Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 7 minutes ago, McHortanen said: NSH could really like the idea of a Subban Subban duo. Plus a solid top 2 Dman (Edler), plus a very cheap high flying middle 6 FWD that's very veritile (Hansen) or young Top 6 projected player (Baertschi) I may be off but not as far off as some people may think. No you are actually miles off I just didn't feel like taking the time to point out why. Nashville just gave Forsberg a 6 year $36 Million contract. To me a strong indication that he is definitely in their future plans and as close to untouchable as one could be. Edler might slot into the Preds line-up as a 5th D, 3 -4 at best. All assuming that he drops his NTC to do this. Jordan Subban wouldn't make their team at all at this time so would be of little value. A middle 6 forward and a 1st round draft pick (potential) isn't going to pry away a 21-year old who just put up a 26 and 33 goals in his first two seasons in the league. Buffalo invested heavily in Kane. Why would they take a 34 year old with declining skills and a giant contract and another winger who hasn't shown he is ready for the NHL. Seriously, you must have the best pot in town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsofthands Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 first trades not so bad, I dont see why Nashville would want to trade a top forward for a defensemen when their top 4 is set 2nd trade is ridonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck15 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 2 hours ago, TheCammer said: Not even sure those trade offers would even work in NHL '16. ^^^ 100% agree no way Buffalo would takes that deal for a young sniper..even though he's troubled BUT HEAVILY TALENTED.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Ward Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 I think it is safe to say that it would take more than we would like to give to get Forsberg. They obviously have big plans for him. We should focus on players with potential upside, but maybe who have some issues or who don't fit in the cap or long term plans of their team. I would look at the following centres: Matt Duchene - Big Contract but Sakic doesn't see him ahead of McKinnon, Soderberg is a solid 2 and Grigorenko and Tyson Jost are waiting in the wings to take the 1 or 2 spot. Sam Reinhart - Not gritty like O'Reilly, not big like Eichel, Girgensons also there, plus he is from Vancouver William Nylander - Matthews, Kadri, Bozak, 1,2,3 this kid is too talented to be behind Matthews and Kadri for 4-5 years Alex Killorn - Stamkos, Johnson, Boyle, Namestnikov, Paquette, Filpula are all centres and they have 4 expensive RFA's to sign Maybe Evander Kane for the LW but the price would have to be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonny_Bohonos_14 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 I stopped at Forsberg. Not gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal1 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 On 2016-07-11 at 1:46 PM, Hortankin said: NSH could really like the idea of a Subban Subban duo. Plus a solid top 2 Dman (Edler), plus a very cheap high flying middle 6 FWD that's very veritile (Hansen) or young Top 6 projected player (Baertschi) I may be off but not as far off as some people may think. You are as far off as most people think. Subban #2 is not an NHL player. Edler is not a top 2 Dman on a good team. Hansen is a UFA after next year. Baertschi is not a top 6 forward on a good team. You can pile on more garbage, bottom line is to get Forsberg you would need quality. Think Horvat as a starting point, add Virtanen and some picks and you are in the ballpark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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