DeltaSwede Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Translated from hockeysverige.se: Quote Rogle are in the hunt for a defender, and a name mentioned in speculation is Anton Cederholm. Anton played for Rögle seasons 2010-2013, but since then has belonged to the Vancouver Canucks organization. The 21 year-old has played games in the WHL and the ECHL, and has a contract with the Canucks for the 2017/2018 season. But it may be appropriate for a loan to Rögle in the coming season, writes Helsingborgs Dagblad. Sports director Anders Carlsson confirms that Cederholm could be loaned to Rogle. - It would be interesting. I like Anton, says sports director to the newspaper, although he would not confirm that he is negotiating with the player. - I do not want to comment. In addition to a defender, Carlsson says they are interested in picking up an offensive player as well. Canucks would retain his NHL rights. Would be an interesting option to approach in terms of his development. Rögle have also been developing a little reputation of being able to develop players or salvage the careers of players who haven't impressed much over in North America, namely Oscar Dansk (CBJ) and Patrick Cehlin (NSH). Sebastian Collberg (MTL and NYI) signed with the team for the upcoming season, for that reason. I'll be keeping an eye on Rögle defender Timothy Liljegren this season so it would give me a chance to view Anton Cederholm a little more as well. Probably get the Canucks to pay even more attention to Liljegren ahead of the 2017 draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Interesting move, I always liked him from the prospects tournament and thought that he could maybe become a bottom pair shutdown d one day in the nhl. Hopefully he can get some good ice time over their for a year or two and come back and make a strong push to either make the nhl or be a key guy for Utica. Best of luck to him, hopeful that he returns to NA down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Better coaching and more TOI. Good for Anton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Home cooking? I think we're deep enough to let Cederhome do what's best for him.Who know's maybe in 2 years we may need him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
komodo0921 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Why hasn't this guy been promoted to Utica? He looks like a solid defender. His offensive numbers may not be top line worthy, but his defensive ability looks stellar. Not all of our defensive prospects need to be goal scoring machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaMash Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 21 minutes ago, komodo0921 said: Why hasn't this guy been promoted to Utica? He looks like a solid defender. His offensive numbers may not be top line worthy, but his defensive ability looks stellar. Not all of our defensive prospects need to be goal scoring machines. His skating, from what I've seen, is pretty abysmal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 A loan to SHL would be a lot better for Cederholm than getting cut from Utica and going ECHL. I actually like the idea of using the Euro leagues as farm teams to develop Canucks properties. Hope to see more of this (for the prospects suited for a similar route). Seems to have worked pretty well for us with Rödin (and Grenier a few years back). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckleHorse Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 This could help his game With a lot more ice to cover he will need to become a better skater there is a chance he becomes a modern day defensive D-man a Gudbranson type a hard hitter that is mobile and smart at the defensive end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaSwede Posted July 16, 2016 Author Share Posted July 16, 2016 13 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: A loan to SHL would be a lot better for Cederholm than getting cut from Utica and going ECHL. I actually like the idea of using the Euro leagues as farm teams to develop Canucks properties. Hope to see more of this (for the prospects suited for a similar route). Seems to have worked pretty well for us with Rödin (and Grenier a few years back). Nick Jensen was also out on loan to AIK in the SHL. I think it definitely should be something NHL teams should look into more often. It happens a lot for Swedish prospects who sign an ELC and then are immediately loaned back to the club they played for. I think teams should use this as an option later on in a prospects development as well. If anything, for prospects who are not yet AHL eligible but too good for CHL, this should be an option. You learn a heck of a lot about yourself and mature if you live abroad so I wouldn't rule out having Canadian or American prospects pursue something like this either. It's a bit unorthodox but it would be a real opportunity for development, on and off the ice. Auston Matthews just spent a year in Switzerland, maybe it's something to consider for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 49 minutes ago, DeltaSwede said: Nick Jensen was also out on loan to AIK in the SHL. I think it definitely should be something NHL teams should look into more often. It happens a lot for Swedish prospects who sign an ELC and then are immediately loaned back to the club they played for. I think teams should use this as an option later on in a prospects development as well. If anything, for prospects who are not yet AHL eligible but too good for CHL, this should be an option. You learn a heck of a lot about yourself and mature if you live abroad so I wouldn't rule out having Canadian or American prospects pursue something like this either. It's a bit unorthodox but it would be a real opportunity for development, on and off the ice. Auston Matthews just spent a year in Switzerland, maybe it's something to consider for the future. Yeah, I very much agree. Could especially be a good route for re-entry draftees (like 19 and 20 year olds) who might need some seasoning and who can get caught between the AHL and CHL, in terms of readiness. Re-entry draft picks (especially forwards) are statistically underrated, meaning they tend to outperform their draft position. And many of them have outgrown the CHL but aren't quite ready for the AHL (or haven't quite met age requirements). Leagues like the SHL could really help provide an ideal development environment for these players (which would improve their odds for success--which are already at pretty great relative value versus draft position). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 More ice time, hopefully good coaching, maybe some power skating. It's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Would sure beat getting sent to the E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 1 hour ago, J.R. said: Would sure beat getting sent to the E. Yeah. But for a few exceptions, the ECHL seems to be where pro careers go to die, unfortunately. Once sent down there, it's very hard to get back up to the AHL, never mind getting an NHL opportunity. Certainly the bulk of ECHL players just aren't good enough, but sometimes guys go down for a "stint" and then get unfairly labelled "ECHL players" and that stigma can be pretty tough to shake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonecoldstevebernier Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Might be good for him to escape the black hole that is the ECHL, as Benning's regime doesn't seem as keen on promoting players from there as the last regime was. I always thought he should've gotten a one or two game look with the Comets when they had all the PTOs, just to make a fair assessment on him, but it never came no matter the level of injuries. If he goes there's the possibility he won't return, but it definitely wouldn't hurt to go to Sweden for a year and perhaps bring him back for the third year of his ELC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 6 hours ago, Yotes said: Interesting move, I always liked him from the prospects tournament and thought that he could maybe become a bottom pair shutdown d one day in the nhl. Hopefully he can get some good ice time over their for a year or two and come back and make a strong push to either make the nhl or be a key guy for Utica. Best of luck to him, hopeful that he returns to NA down the road. It's a loan, canucks still hold his rights. Not like he's gonna stay there more than a season. Unless of course Canucks don't want him anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 5 hours ago, Boudrias said: Better coaching and more TOI. Good for Anton. Considering he would be going from ECHL to SHL, his ice time will likely take a steep drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 16 minutes ago, Baer. said: Considering he would be going from ECHL to SHL, his ice time will likely take a steep drop. If I remember correctly he played a year of overage in Portland and now 1 year in the ECHL. When I said more ice I am assuming that since they want him their plans are for him to play. That said I have no idea how much ice he got in Kalamazzo last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoseTruckWasIt Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 4 hours ago, komodo0921 said: Why hasn't this guy been promoted to Utica? He looks like a solid defender. His offensive numbers may not be top line worthy, but his defensive ability looks stellar. Not all of our defensive prospects need to be goal scoring machines. You're probably in a good position to question Green. I'm sure you have all the data. What are you going by, size and weight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 8 minutes ago, Boudrias said: If I remember correctly he played a year of overage in Portland and now 1 year in the ECHL. When I said more ice I am assuming that since they want him their plans are for him to play. That said I have no idea how much ice he got in Kalamazzo last year. He would be going from getting some top-4 time in Zoo to being a #6 or #7 shutdown D. You do the math. ECHL isn't a much better league than the CHL itself in terms of skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoseTruckWasIt Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 2 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Yeah, I very much agree. Could especially be a good route for re-entry draftees (like 19 and 20 year olds) who might need some seasoning and who can get caught between the AHL and CHL, in terms of readiness. Re-entry draft picks (especially forwards) are statistically underrated, meaning they tend to outperform their draft position. And many of them have outgrown the CHL but aren't quite ready for the AHL (or haven't quite met age requirements). Leagues like the SHL could really help provide an ideal development environment for these players (which would improve their odds for success--which are already at pretty great relative value versus draft position). Maybe we can form an informal affiliation with a Swedish team. I would say MoDo, but they've been relegated. I'm pretty sure that they're only allowed two imports per team, but there are some guys it would be good for. The problem is that the ice is big and the schedule is light, so in many cases it wouldn't help with key development issues. But a lot of Scandinavian players have not been ready for North American life at 18. It would be nice if we had an arrangement and knew what the player could expect if loaned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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