SabreFan1 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 3 cops dead and 3 injured in a planned ambush in Baton Rouge Louisiana. http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/baton-rouge-police-reports-multiple-officers-shot-n611101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokes Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Thank god I live outside the United States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbox Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, smokes said: Thank god I live outside the United States. I dont even like travelling there anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Stammer- Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 I wish people would understand that Alton Sterling wasn't innocent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jay 22 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 RIP and prayers to the families. As an American, I am so ashamed of our country's recent events. Police brutality, racism, and unnecessary shootings from law enforcement is not ok. It is never ok, and I think there are steps that can be taken to prevent these events from happening such as better psychological testing and screening before entering the academy, and better education of these situations. But cold blooded, and planned out murder on police is just pure evil. These victims had absolutely nothing to do with recent events, yet misdirected vigilante justice targets these innocent officers just because of the badge they where. BLM started off promising and for a good cause, but it has become so misdirected with it's goals and it's leaders have turned it into the most vocal extremist group in the US. The biggest blame goes to the liberal media for painting the picture that law enforcement are the bad guys. They aren't. I'm here today living a life where I don't have to worry about my safety and my family's safety 24/7 because of the men and women who protect and serve this country. Like any profession, there are people who should not be working the job they are doing for whatever reasons, including cops. But these guys are an anomaly, not the norm. 90% of policemen/women took the oath to do exactly what it says on their badge: "to serve and protect." I am going to an Angels baseball game today. When I see police there, I'm going to make sure I go out of my way to shake their hand and thank them for the thankless job they do everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naslund.is.king Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Wow..This is an ugly situation with no end in sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nex is my ex Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 This is it... America is screwed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacious Crumb Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Somedays I wish I was still a monkey. It can be painful to be human somedays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 25 minutes ago, -Stammer- said: I wish people would understand that Alton Sterling wasn't innocent. You know, I was originally like "WTF" - and then I decided to google "Alton Sterling Not Innocent" - and uhh, thats quite an impressive little track record. However - it's the US; So whomever shouts the loudest will be in the right; regardless of the facts. ...'Murica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 20 minutes ago, Blue Jay 22 said: RIP and prayers to the families. As an American, I am so ashamed of our country's recent events. Police brutality, racism, and unnecessary shootings from law enforcement is not ok. It is never ok, and I think there are steps that can be taken to prevent these events from happening such as better psychological testing and screening before entering the academy, and better education of these situations. But cold blooded, and planned out murder on police is just pure evil. These victims had absolutely nothing to do with recent events, yet misdirected vigilante justice targets these innocent officers just because of the badge they where. BLM started off promising and for a good cause, but it has become so misdirected with it's goals and it's leaders have turned it into the most vocal extremist group in the US. The biggest blame goes to the liberal media for painting the picture that law enforcement are the bad guys. They aren't. I'm here today living a life where I don't have to worry about my safety and my family's safety 24/7 because of the men and women who protect and serve this country. Like any profession, there are people who should not be working the job they are doing for whatever reasons, including cops. But these guys are an anomaly, not the norm. 90% of policemen/women took the oath to do exactly what it says on their badge: "to serve and protect." I am going to an Angels baseball game today. When I see police there, I'm going to make sure I go out of my way to shake their hand and thank them for the thankless job they do everyday. No it doesn't It goes to a country, an entire country that believe their right to own a lethal weapon supercedes the right to live. You give 340+ million access to enough firepower to give every man woman and child 2.7 guns each then tell them they have the right to use it own it and carry it wherever they want because it is in case the gubmint comes to get em Then slap a country full of racial tension and perceived abuse at the hands of law enforcement and.... Or to sum up a direct counterpoint to your liberal media statement The biggest blame goes to the right wing media and politicians and special interest telling people owning carrying and using guns is their god given right as an "murican citizen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanky Legs Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 27 minutes ago, Xbox said: I dont even like travelling there anymore Watch out, some members will vilify you because you live in fear. You should travel there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 11 minutes ago, Stanky Legs said: Watch out, some members will vilify you because you live in fear. You should travel there. Oh please, you deserved ridicule for your Disneyland story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanky Legs Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 7 minutes ago, Toews said: Oh please, you deserved ridicule for your Disneyland story. It's a good story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucklehead Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 49 minutes ago, -Stammer- said: I wish people would understand that Alton Sterling wasn't innocent. Right, so the police need to be given official powers of judge jury and executioners. It'll save a lot of resources and help git er done right proper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted July 17, 2016 Author Share Posted July 17, 2016 30 minutes ago, Warhippy said: No it doesn't It goes to a country, an entire country that believe their right to own a lethal weapon supercedes the right to live. You give 340+ million access to enough firepower to give every man woman and child 2.7 guns each then tell them they have the right to use it own it and carry it wherever they want because it is in case the gubmint comes to get em Then slap a country full of racial tension and perceived abuse at the hands of law enforcement and.... Or to sum up a direct counterpoint to your liberal media statement The biggest blame goes to the right wing media and politicians and special interest telling people owning carrying and using guns is their god given right as an "murican citizen 320+ million people. 320+/- million guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jay 22 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, Warhippy said: No it doesn't 1. It goes to a country, an entire country that believe their right to own a lethal weapon supercedes the right to live. 2. You give 340+ million access to enough firepower to give every man woman and child 2.7 guns each then tell them they have the right to use it own it and carry it wherever they want because it is in case the gubmint comes to get em Then slap a country full of racial tension and perceived abuse at the hands of law enforcement and.... Or to sum up a direct counterpoint to your liberal media statement 3. The biggest blame goes to the right wing media and politicians and special interest telling people owning carrying and using guns is their god given right as an "murican citizen Thank you for proving my point. This mindset is the exact problem I am talking about. 1. Owning a gun =/= not believing the right to live. I don't personally own one, but I'm pretty sure the majority of gun owners don't buy guns with the intent that they want to shoot people with them. People who buy guns for protection are not believers in the right to live? People who buy guns for hunting and sport are not believers in the right to live? I don't think so. 2. Over exaggeration at it's finest. Not everybody has the right to use firearms. There are age limits, background check requirements, and restrictions on people with prison records and documented mental health problems. With the recent violence, I'm sure gun restriction and tougher screening will only be implemented further; as it should. 3. It is their right. This really isn't a debate. You may not like it, but it is their right. Our constitution's 2nd Amendment gives any American that qualifies the right to bear arms. It does not say anywhere that people have the right to abuse the amendment, nor does it say they have the right to kill people whenever they feel like it. Those who do abuse the amendment pay so accordingly. The belief that gun ownership is the problem and that guns need to be taken away is frivolous, and has the same chance of happening as the Leafs winning the cup this year. Your beef isn't with the right wing media on this one, it's with the founding fathers who implemented it when they wrote the Constitution. The solution to the issue is most likely in the middle that the left and right want. Right wings deserve some fault for being stubborn on passing gun restriction even though there are certain groups who need to be excluded from owning guns, and left wings deserve some fault for being unrealistic with their demands for gun restriction and then acting shocked when right wings refuse to barge on their stance. The mindset that 1 group is responsible or at fault is part of the reason why nothing get's done on the issue. Both sides need to get off their high horses and come to a compromise on the issue. The sooner that happens, the better for the country. I'm only responding to you on this one because I disagreed with almost everything you said from a philosophical standpoint and felt the need to say something. You have your opinion on the issue, and I respect that and won't push you further on this. I have my own viewpoint that is different from yours, and you don't have to agree with it, but it is my view and you can choose to respect that or not, I don't care because it won't change my opinion on the matter. Appreciate the debate. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 42 minutes ago, Warhippy said: No it doesn't It goes to a country, an entire country that believe their right to own a lethal weapon supercedes the right to live. You give 340+ million access to enough firepower to give every man woman and child 2.7 guns each then tell them they have the right to use it own it and carry it wherever they want because it is in case the gubmint comes to get em Then slap a country full of racial tension and perceived abuse at the hands of law enforcement and.... Or to sum up a direct counterpoint to your liberal media statement The biggest blame goes to the right wing media and politicians and special interest telling people owning carrying and using guns is their god given right as an "murican citizen Safe to say both sides can share blame no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 16 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said: 320+ million people. 320+/- million guns. Isn't the ratio something like 2 to 3 guns for everyone in the US over the last 30 years? Nevermind, 1 for everyone but skewed because some households have 3 or more so 112 guns per every 100 citizens https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Terrible tragedy as circle of violence continues. I know for lot of younger people this seems new, but it has been happening for decades. All it does it creates more division amongst people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted July 17, 2016 Author Share Posted July 17, 2016 Just now, Warhippy said: Isn't the ratio something like 2 to 3 guns for everyone in the US over the last 30 years? Nevermind, 1 for everyone but skewed because some households have 3 or more so 112 guns per every 100 citizens https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country The number of households over the years with guns is declining, but the number of guns is increasing. Less people with more guns per gun owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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