Relyt Krets Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 So playing my NHL last night , was cycling through remaining free agents trying to make my Canucks team better haha. Anyway, asides from the likes of Brandon Pirri and Sam Gagner (Who the Canucks should take flyers on, young, something to prove, why the hell not!) but another guy who caught my eye is Brandon Gormley. As petty as this post is, we need some depth at D, we don't have a lot there. Gormley is 22 and was a top rated prospect at one point. I'm not too sure what ever happened. I thought he was always good when I saw him play. But another young cheap option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 This is pretty darn weird to say. But we have amazing depth at defence right now. Not even counting Juolevi, but we have a lot of depth, good defenders in Pedan, Larsen, Tryamkin, Biega, Stecher, Subban etc. There's also another guy I might be missing but the depth of defense for us right now is extremely high. Gormley wouldn't be bad, but I don't think we need him. And apparently Gormley isn't that good either. I doubt Gormley snatches a spot from any of the first 3 names excluding Juolevi above. He's also 24, not 22. And another left handed shot, which we have a lot of. So nah, he's redundant to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Having prospects is never a bad thing - especially if you feel some have more potential to give. But we have several players through the team who could play in the NHL now, but not ready or not good enough to make an impact. Nowhere is that more obvious than on our D. Unless there was something Benning saw specifically in him, I don't see the point. The only focus we should be tending to right now in the way of prospects is trying to acquire potential high end, top six (or preferably top three) talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Tanev Edler Hutton Gudbranson Sbisa Tryamkin Larson Pedan Stretcher Juolevi Gormley would likely slot in behind these players on our depth chart. He would add depth...to utica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 5 hours ago, Odd. said: This is pretty darn weird to say. But we have amazing depth at defence right now. Amazing compared to what? Where the team was a few years ago, or compared to other teams in the league? Because if it's the latter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 6 hours ago, Monty said: Amazing compared to what? Where the team was a few years ago, or compared to other teams in the league? Because if it's the latter... Yeah it is the latter. I didn't compare our depth to the other teams. And hopefully you aren't referring "a few years" to the years of our cup run. Hell even then, we had such decimated prospect cupboard if there was an injured player in the playoffs (which we had a couple of times), Rome, Ballard, Alberts, were your depth defenders. Let's compare that to other cup winning teams and their solid defensive depth (LA/Pittsburgh/CHI)... yeah In the past few years we had bad quality depth at defence. There was never any challenge between prospects. Other than Corrado who isn't something to get super excited about, there was nobody to get excited with. Now, we have not one or two guys, but we have 4-5 guys trying to make the team, and I'm only talking about the defensive depth here. These last few years, our defensive depth looked like this: Clendening Corrado Stanton Weber Sauve Diaz Tommernes McNally Hutton Tanev and more scraps. Out of this list, who was promising? Out of all, I probably say 2 (Corrado, and Tanev who is now a regular and our best defenseman and mind you he was a UFA when we signed him). Nobody thought of Hutton much at the time. Weber was trash and still is, Clendening was thrown out, and a couple of AHL'ers basically. And most of them were waiver wire trash. We had no defensive depth to be excited about. They weren't deserving/not good enough to be in the line-up. Our defensive regulars have not been as good anymore these last 'few years'. Edler, arguably our best defender at the time, was our worst defender 2 seasons ago and everyone wanted him gone. He proved that he's still a top 4 defenseman 1 season ago, and last season, but has huge consistency issues. Hamhuis has regressed, every year, and he's dropping point totals although he's still proven that he can be reliable. Bieksa was and still continues to be awful since after 2012. Tanev, who's now 26, was and still is steadily growing. Garrison was actually not bad but he wasn't always reliable and had consistency issues. If you think our defense was great these last few years, you couldn't be anymore wrong. Not only did we lack defensive prospect, not to mention we had non-quality depth players, we also had a diminishing d core that wasn't getting better and only getting older. For the past 2 seasons, we've had one of the lowest scoring point totals coming from our defenseman in the NHL. Expecting offense to come from our defense was a false hope. Fast track to this off-season, our defensive depth: Pedan Larsen Tryamkin Stecher Juolevi Subban Neill Brisebois Hutton Gudbranson Hutton/Gudbranson are going to be our 2nd pairing. Hutton being one of the handful of Gillis picks to make the NHL, has had a better rookie season than the likes of many current top tier defenders in the league. Comparing this to what we had a few seasons ago? lmao, it amazes me how much of a good job Benning did with this. All in what, 1-2 years? There's not only 1 or 2 players to be excited about, there's 4-6 players, and half of them are contending for LEGITIMATE jobs. Juolevi is the icing on the cake. Taking the best defender in the draft, which team won't get better at defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Interesting discussion On paper Benning has done a great job rebuilding. Our goalie future looks great.......Markstrom, Demko Our defense looks deep And our forwards look solid after the first line......this leads me to Hank, Danny, and Lou When Benning signed Erickson to the 6 year deal, IMO, he basically said he believes that the Sedin's will be around for another 4 years, minimum If Benning is right, this gives him another 2 to 3 years to find 2 first line players, and then another 2 years minimum to develop those 2 players.......as we have seen, it is possible to sign a first line player....aka, Erickson Again, most of this is on paper, and I believe, this is how Benning sees it I am mixed, over whether I agree with him, but I sure am curious to see how this up and coming season plays out.......... I guess if everything goes as planned, I will have to eat a little crow.........I will gladly eat it with pleasure if he is right. I would imagine Benning believes feels he draft an offensive in the 16 to 20 OA draft position next year, or that Brooker is the real deal, and then he is one step closer to his first line goal I believe he feels that if he ends up with an injury riddled season, well then the silver lining is a better draft pick, in the 8 to 12 OA, with the off chance of an even higher pick...... I believe this is what Benning believes........God I hope he is right This year's TDL is subject to the above senerio, until we see how this season progresses........I will give him the benefit of doubt Now, Willie is a different matter........coaching does matter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Sorry all.....I know it is Brosier....my darn tablet won't let me fix it....shoot! Pardon the language! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Or Boeser, even. I don't think benning said anything about the Sedins sticking around with that signing. But I do think he increased the chances of that happening with Eriksson coming on board. You are on the money though, in the focus now needing to rebuild that top line. Ideally, the Sedins should be given 2nd line minutes and pp duty. Would be nice if we had the talent to do that already, but we don't. And that lack of high end scoring depth is what is going to keep us from being a contender quite yet. Get on it Benning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal1 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 On 2016-07-24 at 10:56 AM, Odd. said: This is pretty darn weird to say. But we have amazing depth at defence right now. Not even counting Juolevi, but we have a lot of depth, good defenders in Pedan, Larsen, Tryamkin, Biega, Stecher, Subban etc. There's also another guy I might be missing but the depth of defense for us right now is extremely high. Gormley wouldn't be bad, but I don't think we need him. And apparently Gormley isn't that good either. I doubt Gormley snatches a spot from any of the first 3 names excluding Juolevi above. He's also 24, not 22. And another left handed shot, which we have a lot of. So nah, he's redundant to us Very true, the Canucks have great depth on defence. What they don't have much of is top four defencemen. Go down your list: Pedan, Trymakin, Biega, Stecher, Subban, Larsen... how many of those will ever become top four one day?? Lots of 6 and 7 Ds but that's the easy part of the lineup to fill out. The top 4s is a lot tougher. rRght now our top four is not close to competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 He would have a chance in Utica to become a Desi favorite of sorts a la Bobby Sanguinetti (Bo Sang). I'm up for something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Looks like he signed with New Jersey today. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/transactions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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