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OUCH from the Hockey News.  Remember when it was Cody GODson?
 
Scouting Report
Assets: Is adept at setting up line mates with deft passing skills. Possesses outstanding creativity and the ability to play all three forward positions.
Flaws: Lacks consistency in a huge way in the scoring department. Lacks ideal size (6-0, 191 pounds). Also lacks an extra gear in his skating.
Career Potential: Woefully inconsistent forward
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17 minutes ago, Lui's Knob said:

Would the Canucks look at bringing in a PTO and if so who's still available and worth a shot? Benning appears to look under every rock for something to help his roster... Who would be a good PTO?

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1 hour ago, Lui's Knob said:

Would the Canucks look at bringing in a PTO and if so who's still available and worth a shot? Benning appears to look under every rock for something to help his roster... Who would be a good PTO?

Anybody unsigned and who has something to prove. Recent buyouts are good places to look. Any available player who might improve us at a position and be available cheap.

 

Personally, I'd love to bring in James Wisniewski on a PTO if he isn't already signed by training camp. It would make things even more competitive (and crowded) on D but if he still has game, he'd be a good add on a "show me" type one year deal.

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Here's a player with some history with Willie D. that I think would be worth giving a PTO to:

 

link: http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/nhl/his-hardest-shot-at-redemption-374572591.html

Scott Glennie never imagined seven years after a night that seemigly promised a lifetime of riches he’d be sitting at the MTS Iceplex wondering where his next job would be.

BORIS MINKEVICH / WINNIPEG FREE PRESS</p><p>One on one ice session between Scott Glennie, right, former first round draft pick and former NHLer turned consultant Adam Oates.</p>

BORIS MINKEVICH / WINNIPEG FREE PRESS

One on one ice session between Scott Glennie, right, former first round draft pick and former NHLer turned consultant Adam Oates.

It’s certainly wasn’t where he, or the Dallas Stars, expected him to be when he was drafted eighth overall in the 2009 NHL Draft

"Right now I thought I’d be sitting in Dallas, playing there and contributing to that team," Glennie said in an interview with the Free Press. "Of course that’s what I wanted to do."

It’s been almost seven years since Winnipegger Glennie, now 25, heard his name boom over the giant speakers at the Bell Centre in Montreal; since he hugged and thanked his family before making the trek to centre stage to throw on a Dallas Stars jersey that hung low on his giant 6-1 body and a cap that framed his boyish smile.

 
 
 
 

Pegged with the potential to blossom into hockey greatness one day, the former Brandon Wheat King has played just one game in the National Hockey League. Odds suggest he won’t play a second. He officially cut ties with the Stars in the 2014-15 season after playing parts of four seasons with the team’s AHL affliate the Texas Stars.

So what happened between then and now? What were the set of circumstances behind a young and elite talent who took the Western Hockey League by storm, but has since fallen short of even the most modest expectations?

Ask the man himself and Glennie says he just wasn’t ready for it mentally, even if he knew it was coming; that he eventually got swept up in the lifestyle, even if he knew at times it was destructive.

"A lot of things came at me really quickly, and I wasn’t mentally prepared for a lot of it," he said.


That included getting a signing bonus from the Stars at 18 to the tune of US$270,000 — three separate installments of US$90,000 put into his bank account over the span of a year. For a kid who had yet to hold down a job in his life, who grew up in a modest home, he all of a sudden had more than he could handle.

He doesn’t want your pity. Talking about it allows him to take responsibility for his actions.

"I got drafted so high I thought maybe I was going to get that chance (no matter what) and I wasn’t prepared to put in the amount of work that I thought I needed to put in," he said.

Glennie played four seasons with the Brandon Wheat Kings under current GM and head coach Kelly McCrimmon, scoring 308 points in 252 regular-season games. Asked in a telephone interview Monday whether there were any signs of a questionable work ethic with his star winger, McCrimmon was quick to shoot down the claim.

"I think you’re probably referring more to his time as a pro," he said. "There were no issues here."

Glennie was 16 in his first season with Brandon. He entered the league at the same time as two other young talents in Brayden Schenn, now with the Philadelphia Flyers and Matt Calvert, a member of the Columbus Blue Jackets.

Those who had been his former linemates for the better part of three seasons are now daily reminders of what could have been.

 

BORIS MINKEVICH / WINNIPEG FREE PRESS</p><p>Scott Glennie (right) is on a path he hopes will take him back into professional hockey. As part of his journey, he worked out with NHL Hall of Famer Adam Oates (left) Monday at the MTS Iceplex.</p></p>

BORIS MINKEVICH / WINNIPEG FREE PRESS

Scott Glennie (right) is on a path he hopes will take him back into professional hockey. As part of his journey, he worked out with NHL Hall of Famer Adam Oates (left) Monday at the MTS Iceplex.

 

"Every now and then people will make sure I know that those two are playing up but that’s good for them. They worked hard and they deserve it," said Glennie, who after years of hearing and reading his name beside the word "bust’ has developed a thick skin.

It was during his time in Brandon that Willie Desjardins, who would later go on to coach Glennie for two seasons with the Texas Stars, including a Calder Cup Championship year in 2014, would first set eyes on his future project.

"I was coaching Medicine Hat at the time and he had a great talent. As a 16-year-old he was elite," recalled Desjardins, now the head coach of the Vancouver Canucks, in a phone interview Monday. "There’s a difference between loving the game and loving the lifestyle and I think for him he went to loving the lifestyle more and that got him off track. As a result, I don’t think you ever saw the best of Scott Glennie."

It didn’t take long for Desjardins to see the red flags. In his first season as head coach of the Stars he caught word Glennie was thinking of missing training camp. Worried he may actually follow through on the decision, Desjardins made one of the most unorthodox moves over his long coaching career: he called his mom.

"She got him down there and he came down to camp and I told him ‘I’m not going to let you play until you get into great shape’," said Desjardins. "He hadn’t trained all summer, he hadn’t done anything."

Glennie would sit out close to 25 games to start that season, but it would change the way he viewed hockey and his life. The move, albeit unusual, was out of respect for a player Desjardins knew possessed a rare talent.

"He has a good soul inside him," added Desjardins. "He’s a good person and I certainly hope it turns out for him. He has the skill level to do it."

It will now be up to his determination as to whether he can forge a successful comeback. After spending a year away from the game to recover from shoulder surgery, Glennie said he’s more determined than ever. He had finally hit his low point: At 25 he was living back at home, stuck to the couch watching others play the game he loved.

"I didn’t really know what my future had in store at that point," he said. "My parents were great, my agent was great. My mind is clear for the first time in a long time. They’ve gotten me to a good place where I need to be."

Right now, that’s back living in Brandon with his agent, spending hours in the gym every day with the help of Jim Frederickson, his old strength and conditioning coach with the Wheat Kings. Monday, he was in Winnipeg on the ice getting instruction from NHL Hall of Famer Adam Oates, now a player consultant, in the first of what he hopes will be many future sessions.

"He’s a guy that’s trying to become a better hockey player," Oates said about their hour-long session. "I really just gave him a couple things to work on, on his own."

Now, it’s up to him.

jeff.hamilton@freepress.mb.ca

twitter: @jeffkhamilton

 

 

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37 minutes ago, HK Phooey said:

Here's a player with some history with Willie D. that I think would be worth giving a PTO to:

 

link: http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/nhl/his-hardest-shot-at-redemption-374572591.html

Scott Glennie never imagined seven years after a night that seemigly promised a lifetime of riches he’d be sitting at the MTS Iceplex wondering where his next job would be.

BORIS MINKEVICH / WINNIPEG FREE PRESS</p><p>One on one ice session between Scott Glennie, right, former first round draft pick and former NHLer turned consultant Adam Oates.</p>

BORIS MINKEVICH / WINNIPEG FREE PRESS

One on one ice session between Scott Glennie, right, former first round draft pick and former NHLer turned consultant Adam Oates.

It’s certainly wasn’t where he, or the Dallas Stars, expected him to be when he was drafted eighth overall in the 2009 NHL Draft

"Right now I thought I’d be sitting in Dallas, playing there and contributing to that team," Glennie said in an interview with the Free Press. "Of course that’s what I wanted to do."

It’s been almost seven years since Winnipegger Glennie, now 25, heard his name boom over the giant speakers at the Bell Centre in Montreal; since he hugged and thanked his family before making the trek to centre stage to throw on a Dallas Stars jersey that hung low on his giant 6-1 body and a cap that framed his boyish smile.

 
 
 
 

Pegged with the potential to blossom into hockey greatness one day, the former Brandon Wheat King has played just one game in the National Hockey League. Odds suggest he won’t play a second. He officially cut ties with the Stars in the 2014-15 season after playing parts of four seasons with the team’s AHL affliate the Texas Stars.

So what happened between then and now? What were the set of circumstances behind a young and elite talent who took the Western Hockey League by storm, but has since fallen short of even the most modest expectations?

Ask the man himself and Glennie says he just wasn’t ready for it mentally, even if he knew it was coming; that he eventually got swept up in the lifestyle, even if he knew at times it was destructive.

"A lot of things came at me really quickly, and I wasn’t mentally prepared for a lot of it," he said.


That included getting a signing bonus from the Stars at 18 to the tune of US$270,000 — three separate installments of US$90,000 put into his bank account over the span of a year. For a kid who had yet to hold down a job in his life, who grew up in a modest home, he all of a sudden had more than he could handle.

He doesn’t want your pity. Talking about it allows him to take responsibility for his actions.

"I got drafted so high I thought maybe I was going to get that chance (no matter what) and I wasn’t prepared to put in the amount of work that I thought I needed to put in," he said.

Glennie played four seasons with the Brandon Wheat Kings under current GM and head coach Kelly McCrimmon, scoring 308 points in 252 regular-season games. Asked in a telephone interview Monday whether there were any signs of a questionable work ethic with his star winger, McCrimmon was quick to shoot down the claim.

"I think you’re probably referring more to his time as a pro," he said. "There were no issues here."

Glennie was 16 in his first season with Brandon. He entered the league at the same time as two other young talents in Brayden Schenn, now with the Philadelphia Flyers and Matt Calvert, a member of the Columbus Blue Jackets.

Those who had been his former linemates for the better part of three seasons are now daily reminders of what could have been.

 

BORIS MINKEVICH / WINNIPEG FREE PRESS</p><p>Scott Glennie (right) is on a path he hopes will take him back into professional hockey. As part of his journey, he worked out with NHL Hall of Famer Adam Oates (left) Monday at the MTS Iceplex.</p></p>

BORIS MINKEVICH / WINNIPEG FREE PRESS

Scott Glennie (right) is on a path he hopes will take him back into professional hockey. As part of his journey, he worked out with NHL Hall of Famer Adam Oates (left) Monday at the MTS Iceplex.

 

"Every now and then people will make sure I know that those two are playing up but that’s good for them. They worked hard and they deserve it," said Glennie, who after years of hearing and reading his name beside the word "bust’ has developed a thick skin.

It was during his time in Brandon that Willie Desjardins, who would later go on to coach Glennie for two seasons with the Texas Stars, including a Calder Cup Championship year in 2014, would first set eyes on his future project.

"I was coaching Medicine Hat at the time and he had a great talent. As a 16-year-old he was elite," recalled Desjardins, now the head coach of the Vancouver Canucks, in a phone interview Monday. "There’s a difference between loving the game and loving the lifestyle and I think for him he went to loving the lifestyle more and that got him off track. As a result, I don’t think you ever saw the best of Scott Glennie."

It didn’t take long for Desjardins to see the red flags. In his first season as head coach of the Stars he caught word Glennie was thinking of missing training camp. Worried he may actually follow through on the decision, Desjardins made one of the most unorthodox moves over his long coaching career: he called his mom.

"She got him down there and he came down to camp and I told him ‘I’m not going to let you play until you get into great shape’," said Desjardins. "He hadn’t trained all summer, he hadn’t done anything."

Glennie would sit out close to 25 games to start that season, but it would change the way he viewed hockey and his life. The move, albeit unusual, was out of respect for a player Desjardins knew possessed a rare talent.

"He has a good soul inside him," added Desjardins. "He’s a good person and I certainly hope it turns out for him. He has the skill level to do it."

It will now be up to his determination as to whether he can forge a successful comeback. After spending a year away from the game to recover from shoulder surgery, Glennie said he’s more determined than ever. He had finally hit his low point: At 25 he was living back at home, stuck to the couch watching others play the game he loved.

"I didn’t really know what my future had in store at that point," he said. "My parents were great, my agent was great. My mind is clear for the first time in a long time. They’ve gotten me to a good place where I need to be."

Right now, that’s back living in Brandon with his agent, spending hours in the gym every day with the help of Jim Frederickson, his old strength and conditioning coach with the Wheat Kings. Monday, he was in Winnipeg on the ice getting instruction from NHL Hall of Famer Adam Oates, now a player consultant, in the first of what he hopes will be many future sessions.

"He’s a guy that’s trying to become a better hockey player," Oates said about their hour-long session. "I really just gave him a couple things to work on, on his own."

Now, it’s up to him.

jeff.hamilton@freepress.mb.ca

twitter: @jeffkhamilton

 

 

A couple months In Utica would show his stuff. Be a nice feel good story and everyone deserves a second chance. 

A friend of mine could have made the big leagues but mentally he couldn't handle the rough going.

I believe commitment and hard work can be taught. He obviously had it too easy as a kid and he could be ready to giver now.

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58 minutes ago, HK Phooey said:

Here's a player with some history with Willie D. that I think would be worth giving a PTO to:

 

link: http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/nhl/his-hardest-shot-at-redemption-374572591.html

Scott Glennie never imagined seven years after a night that seemigly promised a lifetime of riches he’d be sitting at the MTS Iceplex wondering where his next job would be.

BORIS MINKEVICH / WINNIPEG FREE PRESS</p><p>One on one ice session between Scott Glennie, right, former first round draft pick and former NHLer turned consultant Adam Oates.</p>

BORIS MINKEVICH / WINNIPEG FREE PRESS

Good find, forgot about him.  If he's willing to put in the work could definitely see him as a late bloomer, as with tough times you'd expect him to smarten up, and if he can stay healthy and find consistent success under a coach like Willie D his future could be bright yet.  He's got size and his A.H.L. stats aren't bad.  While he may not become a star in the NHL, he could still become a solid role player, and that's not bad for a reclamation project. 

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Glennie should be had on a 2 way deal for Utica with a camp invite, seems reasonable to give him a try I like that option.

 

As for veterans will be interesting to see which ones sign soon and how many will have to go the PTO route if they want or go to Europe.

 

There is a D man who was traded to Dallas who still isnt signed, apparently he was the #1 choice over Hamhuis but he cant get an nhl contract now or wants too much? But Hamhuis got signed immediately...goes to show you teams do value him and his experience in the league.

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11 hours ago, kingofsurrey said:

Bring in Dane Fox for a look....  seems like he never had much a chance here last go around......

I think he was sorta given a shot in Utica and couldn't even make that team consistently, hence his ECHL time.

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29 minutes ago, Kevin Biestra said:

He played literally one game for Utica.  Wasn't really much of a shot.

Valid point. I guess I assumed that if he couldn't make Utica's club out of training camp, he'd be a long shot for the NHL. He was alright in the ECHL though, so I'd like to see him at least given a shot in Utica.

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3 minutes ago, ajhockey said:

Valid point. I guess I assumed that if he couldn't make Utica's club out of training camp, he'd be a long shot for the NHL. He was alright in the ECHL though, so I'd like to see him at least given a shot in Utica.

It could be that he didn't make the AHL team for a reason.  I don't know.  I think Dane Fox was to Utica what Hunter Shinkaruk was to the NHL.  Both excelled at the level below, and then for whatever reason, Canucks brass didn't want to see what they could do at the level above.

 

I'm a bit puzzled by both cases.

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