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I think if Martin Havlat is planning a return to the NHL.  Give him a PTO.  Not sure if JB wants a one and done deal for 2LW or what, but if it is then Havlat may be a safe and cheap bet.

 

Havlat-Sutter-Hansen

 

Could be a good shut down and secondary scoring line.  But then again what do I know, I didn't get the call for GM yet lol

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I would give Mike Richards a PTO like some have already suggested. I used to like watching him play for the flyers. I think he can still bring grit, has 2 stanley cups, 1 olympic gold medal and just above 50 percent face-off percentage for his career. He would make a good 4th line C with the potential to move up as well. Can play on the wing as well.

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10 hours ago, Odjick_fan said:

Potential PTO's or FA's

 

Brandon Pirri,  Jiri Hudler, Danny Heatly, Martin Havlat, David Booth or Scott Gomez?

 

Defense: Quincy, Ehrhoff or Jackman.  

 

Critique on people ::D

Think i would rather have Gino on at PTO than any of those on our team next year.

 

Lets just go with the guys we have in our organization..

 

Just kidding -  Pirri might be OK  but he probably wants some term....   

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On 4 August 2016 at 6:48 PM, nzan said:

Yeah...but...

How can he possibly be as bad as the last couple seasons have shown?

Looking at his 12-13 in Buffalo he was scoring at a good clip, and the following year he scored 20. All the while having to carry a lot of the load himself with no real team around him.

I don't think we're going to be a great team yet this year either, but we've got good guys that are able to do the heavy lifting. Couldn't Hodgson be a great complimentary piece (like a Kessel-lite?), not as a centre but as a winger?!

Do you think Cody makes us "faster?"

 

I look up and down this thread and all I see is faulty logic. It is easy to see this is the closed season.

We have guys like Rodin, Grenier, Gaunce, Zalewski  and yes Burrows etc who are hopefully looking to win a spot and yet some of you guys are frothing at the mouth over Pirri (a smurf) and various other dead legs.

 

We should be setting our sights much higher and if we can't get the top players let's at least give our own a decent chance.

 

I appreciate you are bored but there is a whole world outside.

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On 6 August 2016 at 2:17 AM, Phil_314 said:

Agreed with Pirri and Mike Richards.

The team needs more quality shooters (Danny*, Eriksson, Sutter, Hansen, Baertschi are good but most are two-way guys who may not be high-end) and with the two-way guys on the team I think Pirri would be able to find a niche with grittier, bigger players.

Richards I'd agree with since he does play a gritty game and can perform in the Western Conference, and so I hope that the team could find an expanded role for Granlund if he's ready for it.    
 

Last time I looked Rodin looked like he could shoot - from anywhere. We need to give him a chance to see if he can convert to the NHL.

 

Richards, quality shooter? averaged 8 goals a season over last 4 years - behave yourself.

Pirri is soft as butter on a hot day and has never played more than 52 games in any of his NHL seasons. I would rather have Raymond at least he was fast.

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When Gillis brought in Nolan and Morrison, it seemed like a good idea, but it turned out to be a distraction, and a very long shot.  Obviously I trust Benning to find some worthwhile options, but I'm not at all excited about the guys that are being suggested.  Vermette seems like the only viable choice and I would be utterly shocked if he didn't have a contract by then.

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33 minutes ago, WhoseTruckWasIt said:

When Gillis brought in Nolan and Morrison, it seemed like a good idea, but it turned out to be a distraction, and a very long shot.  Obviously I trust Benning to find some worthwhile options, but I'm not at all excited about the guys that are being suggested.  Vermette seems like the only viable choice and I would be utterly shocked if he didn't have a contract by then.

Agreed^.....also

 

i think Canuck spend to much time on guys that try and fail to make the Team in preseason then doing what they should and that's getting the Guys timing and rust out....I hate slow season starts....we gotta come out the gate flying and insync.

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13 hours ago, alfstonker said:

Last time I looked Rodin looked like he could shoot - from anywhere. We need to give him a chance to see if he can convert to the NHL.

 

Richards, quality shooter? averaged 8 goals a season over last 4 years - behave yourself.

Pirri is soft as butter on a hot day and has never played more than 52 games in any of his NHL seasons. I would rather have Raymond at least he was fast.

Learn to read.  I was talking about Pirri being the quality shooter (do you see either "Mike" or "Richards" in the list I made?  No? Didn't think so.) and Richards being the gritty guy.  There's a reason why I separated it into paragraphs.

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On August 3, 2016 at 4:57 PM, HK Phooey said:

Here's a player with some history with Willie D. that I think would be worth giving a PTO to:

 

link: http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/nhl/his-hardest-shot-at-redemption-374572591.html

Scott Glennie never imagined seven years after a night that seemigly promised a lifetime of riches he’d be sitting at the MTS Iceplex wondering where his next job would be.

BORIS MINKEVICH / WINNIPEG FREE PRESS</p><p>One on one ice session between Scott Glennie, right, former first round draft pick and former NHLer turned consultant Adam Oates.</p>

BORIS MINKEVICH / WINNIPEG FREE PRESS

One on one ice session between Scott Glennie, right, former first round draft pick and former NHLer turned consultant Adam Oates.

It’s certainly wasn’t where he, or the Dallas Stars, expected him to be when he was drafted eighth overall in the 2009 NHL Draft

"Right now I thought I’d be sitting in Dallas, playing there and contributing to that team," Glennie said in an interview with the Free Press. "Of course that’s what I wanted to do."

It’s been almost seven years since Winnipegger Glennie, now 25, heard his name boom over the giant speakers at the Bell Centre in Montreal; since he hugged and thanked his family before making the trek to centre stage to throw on a Dallas Stars jersey that hung low on his giant 6-1 body and a cap that framed his boyish smile.

 
 
 
 

Pegged with the potential to blossom into hockey greatness one day, the former Brandon Wheat King has played just one game in the National Hockey League. Odds suggest he won’t play a second. He officially cut ties with the Stars in the 2014-15 season after playing parts of four seasons with the team’s AHL affliate the Texas Stars.

So what happened between then and now? What were the set of circumstances behind a young and elite talent who took the Western Hockey League by storm, but has since fallen short of even the most modest expectations?

Ask the man himself and Glennie says he just wasn’t ready for it mentally, even if he knew it was coming; that he eventually got swept up in the lifestyle, even if he knew at times it was destructive.

"A lot of things came at me really quickly, and I wasn’t mentally prepared for a lot of it," he said.


That included getting a signing bonus from the Stars at 18 to the tune of US$270,000 — three separate installments of US$90,000 put into his bank account over the span of a year. For a kid who had yet to hold down a job in his life, who grew up in a modest home, he all of a sudden had more than he could handle.

He doesn’t want your pity. Talking about it allows him to take responsibility for his actions.

"I got drafted so high I thought maybe I was going to get that chance (no matter what) and I wasn’t prepared to put in the amount of work that I thought I needed to put in," he said.

Glennie played four seasons with the Brandon Wheat Kings under current GM and head coach Kelly McCrimmon, scoring 308 points in 252 regular-season games. Asked in a telephone interview Monday whether there were any signs of a questionable work ethic with his star winger, McCrimmon was quick to shoot down the claim.

"I think you’re probably referring more to his time as a pro," he said. "There were no issues here."

Glennie was 16 in his first season with Brandon. He entered the league at the same time as two other young talents in Brayden Schenn, now with the Philadelphia Flyers and Matt Calvert, a member of the Columbus Blue Jackets.

Those who had been his former linemates for the better part of three seasons are now daily reminders of what could have been.

 

BORIS MINKEVICH / WINNIPEG FREE PRESS</p><p>Scott Glennie (right) is on a path he hopes will take him back into professional hockey. As part of his journey, he worked out with NHL Hall of Famer Adam Oates (left) Monday at the MTS Iceplex.</p></p>

BORIS MINKEVICH / WINNIPEG FREE PRESS

Scott Glennie (right) is on a path he hopes will take him back into professional hockey. As part of his journey, he worked out with NHL Hall of Famer Adam Oates (left) Monday at the MTS Iceplex.

 

"Every now and then people will make sure I know that those two are playing up but that’s good for them. They worked hard and they deserve it," said Glennie, who after years of hearing and reading his name beside the word "bust’ has developed a thick skin.

It was during his time in Brandon that Willie Desjardins, who would later go on to coach Glennie for two seasons with the Texas Stars, including a Calder Cup Championship year in 2014, would first set eyes on his future project.

"I was coaching Medicine Hat at the time and he had a great talent. As a 16-year-old he was elite," recalled Desjardins, now the head coach of the Vancouver Canucks, in a phone interview Monday. "There’s a difference between loving the game and loving the lifestyle and I think for him he went to loving the lifestyle more and that got him off track. As a result, I don’t think you ever saw the best of Scott Glennie."

It didn’t take long for Desjardins to see the red flags. In his first season as head coach of the Stars he caught word Glennie was thinking of missing training camp. Worried he may actually follow through on the decision, Desjardins made one of the most unorthodox moves over his long coaching career: he called his mom.

"She got him down there and he came down to camp and I told him ‘I’m not going to let you play until you get into great shape’," said Desjardins. "He hadn’t trained all summer, he hadn’t done anything."

Glennie would sit out close to 25 games to start that season, but it would change the way he viewed hockey and his life. The move, albeit unusual, was out of respect for a player Desjardins knew possessed a rare talent.

"He has a good soul inside him," added Desjardins. "He’s a good person and I certainly hope it turns out for him. He has the skill level to do it."

It will now be up to his determination as to whether he can forge a successful comeback. After spending a year away from the game to recover from shoulder surgery, Glennie said he’s more determined than ever. He had finally hit his low point: At 25 he was living back at home, stuck to the couch watching others play the game he loved.

"I didn’t really know what my future had in store at that point," he said. "My parents were great, my agent was great. My mind is clear for the first time in a long time. They’ve gotten me to a good place where I need to be."

Right now, that’s back living in Brandon with his agent, spending hours in the gym every day with the help of Jim Frederickson, his old strength and conditioning coach with the Wheat Kings. Monday, he was in Winnipeg on the ice getting instruction from NHL Hall of Famer Adam Oates, now a player consultant, in the first of what he hopes will be many future sessions.

"He’s a guy that’s trying to become a better hockey player," Oates said about their hour-long session. "I really just gave him a couple things to work on, on his own."

Now, it’s up to him.

jeff.hamilton@freepress.mb.ca

twitter: @jeffkhamilton

 

 

The Problem with these types of players is they are now behind. Every team in the league knows about all these guys. They've moved on. 

Teams only have so much room for player development. 

If Vancouver has PTO players they'll  most likely be vets not a greenhorn. 

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9 hours ago, Phil_314 said:

Learn to read.  I was talking about Pirri being the quality shooter (do you see either "Mike" or "Richards" in the list I made?  No? Didn't think so.) and Richards being the gritty guy.  There's a reason why I separated it into paragraphs.

I read what you wrote just fine. What you THOUGHT you were say and what you wrote seemed to have disconnected via the typing.

If you start off by saying you agree with two players and then say the team needs quality shooters it stands to reason that someone could understand that you connected the two. Even stating that Pirri is a "quality shooter" is a vast exaggeration so your point fails on all counts imo.

 

"Agreed with Pirri and Mike Richards.

The team needs more quality shooters (Danny*, Eriksson, Sutter, Hansen, Baertschi are good but most are two-way guys who may not be high-end) and with the two-way guys on the team I think Pirri would be able to find a niche with grittier, bigger players.

Richards I'd agree with since he does play a gritty game and can perform in the Western Conference, and so I hope that the team could find an expanded role for Granlund if he's ready for it. "   
 

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I hear Bure is having a great time in the legends league, maybe he could come back and show off! Linden still appears to be in great shape, maybe a player/president title... Really I think competition for a roster spot is great, but not everyone who has a good training camp has a good season. I would hate to waive and loose someone this year for a PTO that ends up a bust. 

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  • 4 weeks later...

David Booth (turning 32 in Nov) had a broken leg in 2012-2013 and then Torts tore him a new one the following year, so he really didn't get to show anything.  however, running his mouth now may not be in his favour, but he may surprise, he still has speed and skill, jus need to add scoring and then he is golden

 

Lauri Korpikoski (30 yr old) could offer that support on the 3rd line if Baer does take leap to 2LW.  Korpi had 20+ points in last few years whereas Etem best was 15 points last year under two clubs.  At least Korpi would give better options and make the camp compete harder for LW positions

 

Jiri Tlusty (28 yr old) had worst year in his career with the Devils last year, I think he should get a buy for that campaign.  He is a goal scorer and can play both wings.

 

The good thing the Canucks have in their favour is that Sutter and Horvat can mesh well with any winger they play with.  When Sutter was with Pens, he made Downie look good lol

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4 hours ago, captainhorvat said:

Will this forum ever get over dane fox and cody hodgson? These busts arent even worth a PTO. One will prob end up as a used car salesmen and the other working for his dad.

Do people even sell used cars anymore?

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6 hours ago, captainhorvat said:

Will this forum ever get over dane fox and cody hodgson? These busts arent even worth a PTO. One will prob end up as a used car salesmen and the other working for his dad.

Dane Fox recently signed an ECHL contract with the Missouri Mavericks. He couldn't even get an AHL contract from any of 30 teams.

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