Canada Overwhelmed By 100,000 Chinese Millionaire Immigrants

[Salmonberries]

 

 

[RRypien37]

Old news no? This city has been going down the drain for years. It's a shame. 

[inane]

16 minutes ago, RRypien37 said:

Old news no? This city has been going down the drain for years. It's a shame. 

All relative. 

[Oliewud]

Would love to hear realtor rob defend the average amount of income tax these plutocrats are paying is $1400 LMAO. Great market stimulation!

What a joke.

[smokes]

Holy passive aggressive racism. If it was any other people besides the Chinese, they would be welcome with open arms. Canada and Canadians needs to stop the racism against the Chinese. 

[smokes]

When I see this topic, I can't help but think this crap still exists.

UN accuses Canada of racism 'A bizarre waste of time': Officials grilled over 'discrimination' against blacks, Chinese and natives   Steven Edwards   National Post Wednesday, August 07, 2002 UNITED NATIONS - Canada yesterday appeared before a United Nations committee on the elimination of racial discrimination to defend itself against allegations that racial injustices persist against black, Chinese and aboriginal Canadians, and that immigrants do not earn as much as people born in the country. At the same hearing in Geneva, committee members told Canadian officials Ottawa was wrong to resist giving the UN the power to rule on individual complaints of racism in Canada. Forty-one countries, including Australia, France and Germany, have handed the committee jurisdiction over individual complaints. But the United States and the United Kingdom are among countries that, like Canada, prefer domestic courts to deal with allegations of racism. "This is the old story of [the balance between] freedom of expression and the suppression of hate propaganda," said Kurt Herndl, a retired Austrian diplomat who serves on the 18-member committee as co-ordinator for reports on Canada. Canadian officials noted, however, that committee rulings on cases brought by individuals from other countries have leaned farther toward suppressing free speech than Canada is ready to tolerate, even though Canada itself is moving in that direction with progressively tougher anti-racism laws. "We would prefer to see, at this stage, individual complaints handled through Canadian human rights tribunals and commissions," said Norman Moyer, an assistant deputy minister with Heritage Canada, who headed the Canadian delegation. The committee meets twice a year to review the anti-racism record of up to a dozen of the 162 countries that have adopted the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, enacted in 1969. It grilled Canada, which ratified the treaty in 1970, after receiving 200 pages of government reports about Ottawa's performance, and numerous other submissions from human rights and community activist groups. Canada has some of the toughest anti-racism laws in the world, but submits to such grillings because it "believes that the world community will be gradually moved along if we and other countries support the processes," Mr. Moyer said. He echoed Sheila Copps, Minister of Canadian Heritage, by adding that Canada also learns from the criticism of others. "It allows us to look at our work objectively and to improve our initiatives," Ms. Copps said in a press release. Other commentators feel Canada and the UN could be spending their time more productively. "It seems like a bizarre waste of time, when so many people of so many colours and ethnic groups are being oppressed in so many places, for the UN to be scrutinizing a country that clearly lives under the rule of law," said Fred McMahon, director of the Centre for Trade and Globalization Studies with the Fraser Institute in Vancouver. The committee highlighted allegations of increased discrimination against black Canadians, who number about 525,000 among Canada's 30-million population. The Canadian delegation said the government had begun meeting with members of the black community to "explore their special circumstances." A problem of prejudice against the Chinese remained unresolved, the committee continued, referring to a head tax imposed by Canada on Chinese immigrants at the end of the 19th century. Some survivors are suing the government for compensation, prompting the Canadian delegation to tell the committee the issue was before the courts. Several committee members spoke out about land rights for aboriginal Canadians. The delegation said government grants help natives fund land-claims research. The committee charged that, since Sept. 11, people with Middle Eastern names have been apprehended and mosques have been destroyed. However, arrests on the scale seen in the United States did not occur in Canada. Though unacceptable, the level of violence was also limited. Arab and Muslim groups reported an accumulation of 120 hate incidents against their communities in Canada by March, including 10 death threats, 13 cases of physical violence and 12 attacks on mosques and Islamic centres. No mosques were destroyed but anti-Muslim sentiment was believed to be behind the destruction of a Hindu temple in Hamilton, Ont. The Canadian delegation said the committee's observation that anti-racism laws differ from province to province was to be expected. Canada is a federation. "All governments in Canada are pulling in the same direction, just sometimes with slightly different working," Mr. Moyer said. The delegation showed that immigrants entering Canada to fill job openings quickly earn as much as Canadians born here. Immigrants arriving as relatives of Canadian residents take a little longer to do so, while refugees take the longest. Regis de Goutte, a French magistrate who serves on the committee, said Canada's recent laws limiting expression on the Internet showed it is ready to limit free speech. "That shows they have accepted there are exceptions to freedom of speech and so should allow individual complaints to be heard by the committee," he said. © Copyright  2002 National Post

[Standing_Tall#37]

1 hour ago, smokes said:

When I see this topic, I can't help but think this crap still exists.

UN accuses Canada of racism 'A bizarre waste of time': Officials grilled over 'discrimination' against blacks, Chinese and natives   Steven Edwards   National Post Wednesday, August 07, 2002 UNITED NATIONS - Canada yesterday appeared before a United Nations committee on the elimination of racial discrimination to defend itself against allegations that racial injustices persist against black, Chinese and aboriginal Canadians, and that immigrants do not earn as much as people born in the country. At the same hearing in Geneva, committee members told Canadian officials Ottawa was wrong to resist giving the UN the power to rule on individual complaints of racism in Canada. Forty-one countries, including Australia, France and Germany, have handed the committee jurisdiction over individual complaints. But the United States and the United Kingdom are among countries that, like Canada, prefer domestic courts to deal with allegations of racism. "This is the old story of [the balance between] freedom of expression and the suppression of hate propaganda," said Kurt Herndl, a retired Austrian diplomat who serves on the 18-member committee as co-ordinator for reports on Canada. Canadian officials noted, however, that committee rulings on cases brought by individuals from other countries have leaned farther toward suppressing free speech than Canada is ready to tolerate, even though Canada itself is moving in that direction with progressively tougher anti-racism laws. "We would prefer to see, at this stage, individual complaints handled through Canadian human rights tribunals and commissions," said Norman Moyer, an assistant deputy minister with Heritage Canada, who headed the Canadian delegation. The committee meets twice a year to review the anti-racism record of up to a dozen of the 162 countries that have adopted the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, enacted in 1969. It grilled Canada, which ratified the treaty in 1970, after receiving 200 pages of government reports about Ottawa's performance, and numerous other submissions from human rights and community activist groups. Canada has some of the toughest anti-racism laws in the world, but submits to such grillings because it "believes that the world community will be gradually moved along if we and other countries support the processes," Mr. Moyer said. He echoed Sheila Copps, Minister of Canadian Heritage, by adding that Canada also learns from the criticism of others. "It allows us to look at our work objectively and to improve our initiatives," Ms. Copps said in a press release. Other commentators feel Canada and the UN could be spending their time more productively. "It seems like a bizarre waste of time, when so many people of so many colours and ethnic groups are being oppressed in so many places, for the UN to be scrutinizing a country that clearly lives under the rule of law," said Fred McMahon, director of the Centre for Trade and Globalization Studies with the Fraser Institute in Vancouver. The committee highlighted allegations of increased discrimination against black Canadians, who number about 525,000 among Canada's 30-million population. The Canadian delegation said the government had begun meeting with members of the black community to "explore their special circumstances." A problem of prejudice against the Chinese remained unresolved, the committee continued, referring to a head tax imposed by Canada on Chinese immigrants at the end of the 19th century. Some survivors are suing the government for compensation, prompting the Canadian delegation to tell the committee the issue was before the courts. Several committee members spoke out about land rights for aboriginal Canadians. The delegation said government grants help natives fund land-claims research. The committee charged that, since Sept. 11, people with Middle Eastern names have been apprehended and mosques have been destroyed. However, arrests on the scale seen in the United States did not occur in Canada. Though unacceptable, the level of violence was also limited. Arab and Muslim groups reported an accumulation of 120 hate incidents against their communities in Canada by March, including 10 death threats, 13 cases of physical violence and 12 attacks on mosques and Islamic centres. No mosques were destroyed but anti-Muslim sentiment was believed to be behind the destruction of a Hindu temple in Hamilton, Ont. The Canadian delegation said the committee's observation that anti-racism laws differ from province to province was to be expected. Canada is a federation. "All governments in Canada are pulling in the same direction, just sometimes with slightly different working," Mr. Moyer said. The delegation showed that immigrants entering Canada to fill job openings quickly earn as much as Canadians born here. Immigrants arriving as relatives of Canadian residents take a little longer to do so, while refugees take the longest. Regis de Goutte, a French magistrate who serves on the committee, said Canada's recent laws limiting expression on the Internet showed it is ready to limit free speech. "That shows they have accepted there are exceptions to freedom of speech and so should allow individual complaints to be heard by the committee," he said. © Copyright  2002 National Post

Wow, talk about reaching/trolling. A 14 year old article that was within a year of Sept 11th. When Canada's lips were joined to America's Ass.

[smokes]

48 minutes ago, Standing_Tall#37 said:

Wow, talk about reaching/trolling. A 14 year old article that was within a year of Sept 11th. When Canada's lips were joined to America's Ass.

Here is a more recent article.   http://themainlander.com/2012/04/02/the-persistence-of-anti-asian-racism-in-vancouver-part-i/

If there is one thing about me throughout my history on these boards is that I do not troll. I am saying that attitudes have still not changed since the publishing of this article. Just read the posts on these boards, a mojority is negative again the Chinese and Chinese Canadians. The rise in housing is the Chinese fault for buying up the house, few blame the sellers who simply want to take the money. It goes both ways, but why are the Chinese targeted, because they are the primary purchasers? For arguements sake, what if the buyers were European? I am sure this would be a non issue.

 

So Canada is overwhelmed by a millionaire Chinese immigrants, why is it the Chinese are blamed instead of the government for letting them in?

[inane]

8 minutes ago, smokes said:

Here is a more recent article.   http://themainlander.com/2012/04/02/the-persistence-of-anti-asian-racism-in-vancouver-part-i/

If there is one thing about me throughout my history on these boards is that I do not troll. I am saying that attitudes have still not changed since the publishing of this article. Just read the posts on these boards, a mojority is negative again the Chinese and Chinese Canadians. The rise in housing is the Chinese fault for buying up the house, few blame the sellers who simply want to take the money. It goes both ways, but why are the Chinese targeted, because they are the primary purchasers? For arguements sake, what if the buyers were European? I am sure this would be a non issue.

 

So Canada is overwhelmed by a millionaire Chinese immigrants, why is it the Chinese are blamed instead of the government for letting them in?

It would be an issue. It just happens to be Chinese so they get blamed. If it were people from the Philippines or Uganda or Sweden it'd be their fault. 

 

It is partly our government's fault, but it's a lot easier to blame 'them' than to look inward. 

[Standing_Tall#37]

12 minutes ago, smokes said:

Here is a more recent article.   http://themainlander.com/2012/04/02/the-persistence-of-anti-asian-racism-in-vancouver-part-i/

If there is one thing about me throughout my history on these boards is that I do not troll. I am saying that attitudes have still not changed since the publishing of this article. Just read the posts on these boards, a mojority is negative again the Chinese and Chinese Canadians. The rise in housing is the Chinese fault for buying up the house, few blame the sellers who simply want to take the money. It goes both ways, but why are the Chinese targeted, because they are the primary purchasers? For arguements sake, what if the buyers were European? I am sure this would be a non issue.

 

So Canada is overwhelmed by a millionaire Chinese immigrants, why is it the Chinese are blamed instead of the government for letting them in?

When housing is not affordable and limited it doesn't matter whose buying it. I'm sure they would be feeling the heat. But the thing is, there's not many people who could afford to buy to not live in the house or even rent it. That's where the strong feelings come from. It's not about race at all, if it was there'd be mobs of whities down in person forcing out the Chinese out of areas like Richmond. 

[thejazz97]

16 minutes ago, smokes said:

So Canada is overwhelmed by a millionaire Chinese immigrants, why is it the Chinese are blamed instead of the government for letting them in?

Chinese immigrants aren't screwing over the country, Chinese millionaire immigrants are.

 

It's similar to Muslims vs Islamic terrorists.

[inane]

2 minutes ago, thejazz97 said:

Chinese immigrants aren't screwing over the country, Chinese millionaire immigrants are.

 

It's similar to Muslims vs Islamic terrorists.

Over simplify much? 

[thejazz97]

9 minutes ago, inane said:

Over simplify much? 

Oh. Yes. Of course.

[Nuxfanabroad]

7.45 BILLION of us ants runnin' round..D'ya THINK the ones who've the most financial clout, might like to live in the most beautiful place in the world?! Astonishing.

 

There's nothing earth-shattering here..nothing new. It's a temporary state, which has been building up for decades.

 

My folks moved to White Rock in '69, & were blue collar poor. We hung in for about 2 decades. Would never get near the place nowadays. Vivid images of this childhood paradise always linger..but it may's well been from a different planet now.

 

Can't go back.

[riffraff]

Frustrating that they trashed their own country and continue to do so.

 

suppose over time Vancouver will be the next pollution victim.

[48MPHSlapShot]

The crappy thing is that anybody willing to call it like it is is automatically accused of being a racist.

[smokes]

Other rich people have done it in the past without a problem. How many of us have heard of rich Americans going over and buying real estate in other countries they never live in full time. Has never really been an issue then?

[Toews]

It's not racist to think about the interests of the local population over foreigners. The fact of the matter is that our country seems to be allowing foreigners to invest in our country's housing market which is resulting in the middle class being effectively sqeezed out. This middle class includes a whole bunch of Chinese Canadians as well. It doesn't matter what part of the world these wealthy foreigners are from. 

 

It's even worse when people realize that these foreigners are not carrying their weight by paying the same taxes as the local population. Most of them don't live in the houses they bought, they also claim social benefits due to declaring low income while owning houses worth millions. Maybe it's time we toughen up regulations for how long someone can stay out of the country while still maintaining their PR card. Force these people to stay in our country, earn a living here and pay taxes. It's time our government starts to think of the middle class rather than finding ways to bring more money into the country which doesn't translate to a better life for the middle class of the population. 

[D.B Cooper]

4 hours ago, smokes said:

Holy passive aggressive racism. If it was any other people besides the Chinese, they would be welcome with open arms. Canada and Canadians needs to stop the racism against the Chinese. 

Nope.  

You get any group of rich people coming to our country and destroying the market for Canadians and you are going to see angry people.  

Asians are the ones who are buying all the houses at disgusting prices.  

Asians are the ones who are coming over by the ton and making Canadians a minority. 

If it were a mass amount of Italians doing the same, I'd be pissed.  Same goes for the Irish, Mexicans, French, Africans, etc....

the race doesn't matter.  

Thier actions and what they are doing to Vancouver is what matters.  

[smokes]

Just now, drummerboy said:

Nope.  

You get any group of rich people coming to our country and destroying the market for Canadians and you are going to see angry people.  

Asians are the ones who are buying all the houses at disgusting prices.  

Asians are the ones who are coming over by the ton and making Canadians a minority. 

If it were a mass amount of Italians doing the same, I'd be pissed.  Same goes for the Irish, Mexicans, French, Africans, etc....

the race doesn't matter.  

Thier actions and what they are doing to Vancouver is what matters.  

Thier actions? Did they break any laws? Or did they simply walk into a door that was opened up to them by Canadian government? The government laid out the rules of elegibility and Asians just happen to be able to fit the bill. Who sold the houses to Asians at disgusting prices?  Your argument is exactly what lead to the headtax that tarnished Canadian history. There are people coming into Canada by the truckload. Immigrants from all over the world are surging into Canada, so are refugees, at the very least, the millionaire immigrants can pull thier weight and not be such a drain to government resources.