[Proposal] The team to bring us to the promise land!

[luongomyhero1]

The promise land is not the Stanley Cup, heavens we are far away from that; however, this line-up could potentially be bad enough to give us a top lottery pick and a shot at #1 center prospect, Nolan Patrick.

 

Sedin-sedin-eriksson
Baertschi-Horvat-Hansen
Rodin- Sutter-Virtanen
Etem- Granlund-Burrows

Guance/Dorsett

 

Edler-tanev
Gudbranson-Hutton
Sbisa- Tryamkin

Larsson

 

Miller
Markstrom

 

I predict the sedins will have relatively the same success they had last season, give or take 8-10 points.

Eriksson will NOT score 30+ this year, probably closer to 25. 

Horvat takes till the All-Star break to get going again, but ultimately will break the 50 point plateau this season.
Baertschi Scores 20

Hansen regresses from his career year last season while playing with the Sedins

Rodin, Virtanen, and Etem score around 15 goals and provides decent depth scoring.

Edler and Tanev have a chance to be a solid top defensive pairing, but will probably flop as per usual.
Sbisa will be around a -25 before sitting in the press box as he watches Phillip Larsson contribute on the PP. 

Barring any significant rejuvenation, Burrows may be Chris Higgins(ed) to the Pressbox as well, or worse, Utica.

 

Do i think this team will end up 30th, heck no!

But can they finish in the bottom 5 again and have a solid shot at winning a lottery pick, potentially winning pick #1, yes i do [hope]! 

[MeanSeanBean]

You're a bad fan. At least wait till the trade deadline to jump on team tank. 

[-AJ-]

I'm guessing we either squeak in, or we barely miss. Don't have super high hopes for this year, but moreso for future years. Aside from Miller and the Twins, our core is quite young. Even in Miller's case, he's pretty much just splitting time with Markstrom.

[GettinGuddyWithIt]

Can you just be quiet?

[SabreFan1]

From what I've been reading, this next draft isn't looking as good as the previous two.  Now is the time where you hope that the young guys start to step up their games and create a foundation for the new core to work from.

 

Ideally if that happens then JB can trim the fat and plug in FAs, trades, and prospects in the needed spots.

 

Here's hoping that the Aquilini family keeps their noses out of the on-ice decisions.

[canuktravella]

1. our d corp is vastly improved this yr so less goals against we will be a mid pack team   maybe youngsters will over perform  and we do decent in first round of playoffs if not we get another top ten pick prospect  either or im happy  especially with oli and brock on team next yr

[LuckyLuciano]

Stanley Cup or bust

[Alflives]

8 hours ago, luongomyhero1 said:

The promise land is not the Stanley Cup, heavens we are far away from that; however, this line-up could potentially be bad enough to give us a top lottery pick and a shot at #1 center prospect, Nolan Patrick.

 

Sedin-sedin-eriksson
Baertschi-Horvat-Hansen
Rodin- Sutter-Virtanen
Etem- Granlund-Burrows

Guance/Dorsett

 

Edler-tanev
Gudbranson-Hutton
Sbisa- Tryamkin

Larsson

 

Miller
Markstrom

 

I predict the sedins will have relatively the same success they had last season, give or take 8-10 points.

Eriksson will NOT score 30+ this year, probably closer to 25. 

Horvat takes till the All-Star break to get going again, but ultimately will break the 50 point plateau this season.
Baertschi Scores 20

Hansen regresses from his career year last season while playing with the Sedins

Rodin, Virtanen, and Etem score around 15 goals and provides decent depth scoring.

Edler and Tanev have a chance to be a solid top defensive pairing, but will probably flop as per usual.
Sbisa will be around a -25 before sitting in the press box as he watches Phillip Larsson contribute on the PP. 

Barring any significant rejuvenation, Burrows may be Chris Higgins(ed) to the Pressbox as well, or worse, Utica.

 

Do i think this team will end up 30th, heck no!

But can they finish in the bottom 5 again and have a solid shot at winning a lottery pick, potentially winning pick #1, yes i do [hope]! 

Is your favourite movie, "Fury"?

[Monty]

What people tend to forget here is other teams in the Western Conference, and whether the Canucks are better or worse than they are. A perfect example of this is the Jets and Avs. Are they terrible teams? No. But the other teams in the Central Division last year, just like this coming season, are all incredibly strong. Something has to give.

 

Now, whether people here believe the Canucks are poised for the playoffs or not (I'm in the latter), my opinion is formed by looking at the current roster, as well as the other teams in the Pacific.

 

Is this the year Deadmonton finally takes a step forward? At least slightly better. Will Calgary be better off with an incredibly underrated Brian Elliott and a new coach who should be able to improve their possession numbers? I believe so. Will the Sharks still be a playoff team after getting to the Finals? Most likely. Will the Kings be able to squeak into the playoffs, despite major question marks as a result of the salary cap? Are the Coyotes going to take a huge step forward in their youth movement and have stability in net this year?

 

It's really tough to say. While there are things to get excited about with the Canucks, you can't argue with age and trends in production (historically). The Sedin's are no longer 80 point players. They are work horses and an incredible special breed. They will go in the Hall of Fame for a reason. But they are also going to be 36 years old this year. Father Time catches up to all of us. And while I really, really like Loui Eriksson, at best he'll be in the 55-60 point range. This isn't bad production, just expected. My point is, if your first line players are no longer in their prime and are the ones expected to carry your offense, then you need more. Unfortunately, ours are past their best before. We were incredibly fortunate to see them at their best, which were incredible years. But they are far removed from those years. And so is our supposed #1 goaltender.

 

I'd love to be proven wrong, though.

[smithers joe]

i hope the canucks don't play too good. cdc won't have anything to talk about. can you imagine, someone like desi saying, this team is good?

[48MPHSlapShot]

If your point predictions are accurate, and the Sedins finish with roughly 60 points each, Eriksson scores 25 goals, Horvat gets 50 points, Baertschi scores 20 goals, while Virtanen, Hansen, Etem, and Rodin all finish with around 15 goals each, then I can pretty much guarantee we WON'T be a lottery team.

[Where'd Luongo?]

We will be one spot out of playoffs and win the lottery pick!

[Tre Mac]

The truth hurts.  Nobody is accounting for all the injuries that will occur this season.  This team will be bottom dwelling for quite some time.

[Alflives]

5 minutes ago, Where'd Luongo? said:

We will be one spot out of playoffs and win the lottery pick!

How about we trade Edler and Hansen at the TDL to TO, who (at the time) are in a playoff spot, for their first rounder, but soon after the trade, they fall into the lotto teams?  Then we climb into the playoffs, play great, and win a round.  Then that lotto pick gets us 1st overall.  

Could happen.  

[Wilbur]

43 minutes ago, smithers joe said:

i hope the canucks don't play too good. cdc won't have anything to talk about. can you imagine, someone like desi saying, this team is good?

Nah, if this team does well people will complain that the window is closing and we still need to trade for more draft picks.

[Bigturk8]

9 hours ago, shayster007 said:

You're a bad fan. At least wait till the trade deadline to jump on team tank. 

I don't agree with the post, but I hate it when people try to judge fandom. It's about wanting what you think is best for the team. People will always disagree on what they think that is but trying to devalue their opinion using such arbitrary means doesn't accomplish anything.

Debate the points, don't attack the person.

[ForsbergTheGreat]

2 hours ago, Monty said:

What people tend to forget here is other teams in the Western Conference, and whether the Canucks are better or worse than they are. A perfect example of this is the Jets and Avs. Are they terrible teams? No. But the other teams in the Central Division last year, just like this coming season, are all incredibly strong. Something has to give.

 

Now, whether people here believe the Canucks are poised for the playoffs or not (I'm in the latter), my opinion is formed by looking at the current roster, as well as the other teams in the Pacific.

 

Is this the year Deadmonton finally takes a step forward? At least slightly better. Will Calgary be better off with an incredibly underrated Brian Elliott and a new coach who should be able to improve their possession numbers? I believe so. Will the Sharks still be a playoff team after getting to the Finals? Most likely. Will the Kings be able to squeak into the playoffs, despite major question marks as a result of the salary cap? Are the Coyotes going to take a huge step forward in their youth movement and have stability in net this year?

 

It's really tough to say. While there are things to get excited about with the Canucks, you can't argue with age and trends in production (historically). The Sedin's are no longer 80 point players. They are work horses and an incredible special breed. They will go in the Hall of Fame for a reason. But they are also going to be 36 years old this year. Father Time catches up to all of us. And while I really, really like Loui Eriksson, at best he'll be in the 55-60 point range. This isn't bad production, just expected. My point is, if your first line players are no longer in their prime and are the ones expected to carry your offense, then you need more. Unfortunately, ours are past their best before. We were incredibly fortunate to see them at their best, which were incredible years. But they are far removed from those years. And so is our supposed #1 goaltender.

 

I'd love to be proven wrong, though.

That’s all opinion and speculation, with a lot of “what if’s” applied to each team.  If you apply those same what if to Vancouver’s roster we are a top 3 pacific team.  Your view is strangely positive towards the other teams in our division while negative towards canucks.

 

What if Elliot and a new coach greatly improve the flames vs Sedins will continue to regress and Eriksson has no impact on their games

Will Yotes get good goal tending vs Miller is past his best due date.

 

Right now the league, especially the pacific division is extremely tight.  It would be hard to say any team is a clear cut favourite (maybe the ducks).  But Kings have lost players, Sharks are even older than canucks and EDM, CGY, and ARZ are still living on “hope”.  Hope that one day it all comes together, some day is might, or it might now.  At this point, it’s really too hard to say which teams will strive and which ones will not, as you pointed out there are too many ”what ifs”.  So for anyone to say canucks will be a bottom team is really just an opinion based on negativity.    

[Riviera82]

Unless this team is ravaged with injuries again then I dont see a very high draft pick for us. My prediction is that if we stay relatively healthy through the season we'll either just miss the playoffs or squeak in and get snuffed out quickly. Either way it doesn't bode well for our draft position so I hope I'm wrong. If I'm right though, watch this become a trend until the Sedins retire.

[nux_win]

1 hour ago, Tre Mac said:

The truth hurts.  Nobody is accounting for all the injuries that will occur this season.  This team will be bottom dwelling for quite some time.

So for you pessimistic future predictions are "truth"?  Enough with the loserism* already!  Winning starts with wanting to win and then perhaps even expecting it.  GCG!

 

* = invented word to help describe and counter continual CDC pessimism

[Monty]

1 hour ago, ForsbergTheGreat said:

That’s all opinion and speculation...

Yup, which is why I said this:

 

3 hours ago, Monty said:

...my opinion is formed by looking at the current roster, as well as the other teams in the Pacific...

 

Also, in regards to this

 

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 So for anyone to say canucks will be a bottom team is really just an opinion based on negativity. 

Not really based on negativity. The team was the third worst in the NHL last season. They had some of the worst offensive numbers and some of the worst goaltending in the entire league. It's not "negative" to believe they won't all of the sudden be a completely different team.